M1 Carbine .30 cal

[hunter63]

A couple of threads seem to gyrate back to the M1 Carbine when discussing other weapons, so here a chance for all you fans to convince me that it worth much of anything, except maybe in a collection.

My reason for thinking this way.... they are not a hunting rifle,.... was spending endless hours trailing wounded deer shot by old timers, that link them back to thier service time.

Short history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1_carbine

My opinion, low power, hard to come by cartridge, in a small expensive package.

So what have y'all got?

[Justin Case]

I had an Iver Johnson at one time,,,, Loved it,, Great hiking/Camping gun,,,, next to a lever 30/30 of course :)

[kyratshooter]

Back when other Fast shooters were very expensive and the carbine was not, I owned one and used it for hunting and defending against wild dogs. I considered it good for that activity. I had cast bullet molds and dies and reloaded for it as I did my pistol rounds. Cheap surplus was still available back then (late 70s). Ammo is no more scarce than any other caliber, but no one is giving it away down on the corner.

I traded it to a sheriff's deputy for a S&W mod 19 and he used it as his rural patrol gun for years.

It was short and light. Easy to use from inside the truck. Three mags taped together was a full dose of trouble stopper. Back in those days the carbine was a more recognizable serious social interaction tool than any other long gun. ARs were expensive and AKs were scarce. The cheap SKS shipments had not hit the market yet and surplus U.S. hardware was still available cheap. I think I paid $75 for my beat up GI carbine.

I have always felt the perfect short range defense gun would have been a carbine chambered in .38 super. Something that will never happen.

I still prefer the ergonomics of the carbine over any modern assualt rifle. I am old enough to think the carbine feels like a real gun, and the new stuff is not quite right.

[Pal334]

Thanks for starting this thread. My line of thought was it is a time proven design. Has all the power i think I would want or need. Is light enough for me to be comfortable with it.And I am old fashioned sort that likes its feel. As I said on another post, I have used the "AR" type for a long time, long enough that I don't care for it when I have a choice. Now having said all that, I have not owned one and am looking forward to hearing what folks say about it.

[SARKY]

I have always felt the perfect short range defense gun would have been a carbine chambered in .38 super. Something that will never happen.

That doesn't have to be true you know. I have an M-1 Carbine reciever and have since pick up an unchambered 9mm barrel for it. I am pretty sure i'm going to chamber it in 9mm Mag to go with my AMT/IAI AutoMag III. It could just as easily be chambered in 38 super. I've used the 9mm Mag to take deer in Maine, it equated to a rimless .357. 3 of my carbines are .30 cal, and I was lucky enough to get a bunch of ammo when it was still cheap and available. I still reload for it. I've already told you of my 9mm Mag project. My last M-i is the 256 Win Mag Ferret (a .357 necked down to .257) I've taken deer with this one as well in Maine. It is what I call a dawn gun. The reason for that is if you shoot a deer and don't drop it right away you will need the rest of the day to track it to where it drops. A lot of the locals in my town New Gloucester would hunt deer with a similar caliber, the 25-20 although the 256 is more powerfull. That being said the gun is fun and light and darn dependable. as long as I had enough ammo and magazines, I would be afraid of using it as my zombie gun.
Let us not forget the the original Ruger .44 carbine and the 10-22 were both modeled after the M-1 carbine. Speaking of which, I prefer my older tube fed version of the 44 carbine to the newer now defunct version.

[crashdive123]

As to the question in the OP - I am rather fond of older military rifles. When I did have an M1 Carbine I shot it frequently, but that was limited to the range. Currently my only older military rifle is an Enfield. So I guess my answer is just because I like em.

[MidWestMat]

I had one years ago, it was light handy and carried very well. I loved the 'feel' of it, enough heft to feel like a gun but still compact. I took one deer with it and wounded zero, other than that the only thing I killed was paper. I have wanted to get another for years, but every time I go to look at them I refind the information about how anemic the round is supposed to be and talk myself out of it.

[randyt]

here's a photo of one of mine. If I remember right it's a saginaw gear brand. My wife's uncle had it and wanted a regular stock for it. So we were going to trade stocks, I had a plainfield but he said the heck with it lets trade guns. I told him his carbine was worth more but he didn't care. Both his brother and his partner each bought one during the riots in detroit. they figured the carbine would be handy for walking the beat. I can see that.


http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh227/randytlee/010-1.jpg

[hunter63]

As to the question in the OP - I am rather fond of older military rifles. When I did have an M1 Carbine I shot it frequently, but that was limited to the range. Currently my only older military rifle is an Enfield. So I guess my answer is just because I like em.

I think that my early experience is the reason that I not a fan, besides prices that seem to be higher than I care to pay.

I do understand the "cool factor" and I know several people that collect military firearms, and the collective impression from them is been about the same.
"Cool little gun" but I wouldn't use it for deer size animals".

I will note that this group does have a lot of options for hunting, so hunting with M1 carbine isn't important to them.
They like 'em 'cause they like 'em.

I was just curious as it seems that the M1 carbines get brought up alot, and I do notice that there seems to be "I used to have one, or someday I might get one", etc.

Just looking for feed back.

Just posted, then saw your pic, Randy, can't say I've seen that stock?
Does have a cool look to it.

[randyt]

yup, it's kinda neat, the butt stock slides into the stock. there is a push button that holdS it in or out. I really don't know what good it is so I write it off as toys for big boys LOL.

[LowKey]

I'm not sure I'd go for the carbine. The earlier Garand in 30-06 is on the wish list though. Kinda way down there but if someone handed it to me I wouldn't say no.

[OhioGrizzLapp]

With their prices now, I can think of better guns to have. Back when they were $100, they were a perfect walk about and truck gun. The round can be loaded hot and parts are everywhere. Now that they are minimum $600 even for a import USGI and often in the $1000 range, they are not all that favored anymore. Once in a great while you will find one for like $300 or $350 but they are shot out, gages bad on muzzle, chamber, receiver stretch and gas system, not to mention cosmetics and such....they really are beaters and if you try to bring them back to shootable, it will run you the same as buying a shootable piece in the first place.

the none USGI's are even going for hefty sums like the Iver Johnsons and Universals.....heck even the new Khar Arms is expensive......

The good thing is parts are avail as are new and used receivers to build one if you really want one.

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