Preparedness training

[klkak]

The way a person reacts to a stressful situation is relevant to the way they train to handle stressful situations.

The way you train is as important as what you train for.

As instructor at the US Air force Air Base Ground Defense school (ABGD) I would put each new class of students through the same scenario when they arrived.

The class would be sent on a patrol which would pass through the middle of an area called the “Transition pad”. A ½ mile long by ¼ mile wide flat open area with no cover bordered on one long edge by a heavily wooded area. When the patrol was in the middle of the pad they would be ambushed from the cover of the woods by OPFOR.

Without fail, when the weapons fire started and the GBS’s started booming. Every single person would either freeze or drop to the ground. Resulting in a very high casualty rate. In essences their minds would shut down.

After a couple weeks of high stress training in all aspects of ABGD, the students were again patrolled and ambushed. This time however they would attack the ambush (as trained) resulting in a much lower casualty rate.

This exercise was used for several reasons. One being a base line for their training. But more importantly it showed them that in a stressful situation you have to keep your mind moving forward. If you stop you die.

It’s not enough to rush the weapon firing at you. You have to think, you have to fire and maneuver.

This same type of training is important to everyday life. If you train yourself to handle even one highly stressful situation you enable yourself to handle other stressful situations better than not training at all.

For example: a family that has trained and prepared themselves for an earth quake is better able to handle a tornado or flood then a family that has never trained for any type of natural disaster.

Comments or questions, Anyone?

[BENESSE]

+1, couldn't agree more on all points, K.

[Alaskan Survivalist]

I agree as well but have come to this conclusion through a different, ancient disapline tempered by life experience.

Mushin (No Mind) and Rage!

This is setting the mind free of all thought and emotion and used in martial arts to achieve unencumbered movements. It awakens the unconscious mind and improves the connection between mind and body. A simple example of how it improves physical performance is speed, power and endurance. During physical battle people will tense up tightening muscles and working one against the other (like a clenched fist). To move one muscle must be released and the other tightened, the process slowing your movement weakening you working one against the other and work fatigues muscle sooner weakening you further. Far better to be relaxed and just tighten the muscle needed. This is just one example of the improvement of the mind and body connection. From the mental perspective alone the biggest advantage is in making the decisive first move. While others are accessing and thinking I act. While not thinking at the time does not mean thought was not put into my action and more than could thought in the split seconds prior to a response. I spent 6 months of my life alone thinking every possible situation a person would encounter in life and assigned priorities to all things so I have already made the choices that would give most pause to think. Things happen that trigger a trained response without thought.

It was Judo that made me aware of this and something that came very natural to me. To gain every edge for competition I furthered my knowledge of it through Zen, Yoga and Transcendental Meditation. The more I learned the more I understood there was nothing to learn. 8 years of submersing every waking moment in Judo gave me a holistic approach to life not learned through words but though motion and the effects of which extended far beyond the Dojo. Applied to everyday life I realize it does not matter what you think or how you feel only how you act that counts. Does it matter how you feel about getting up and going to work? No, you just do it.

I have found that my suppressed emotions remain buried deep inside. I do not suppress emotions of virtue like love or compassion. All that is in me is not good. Hate, fear, vengeance, anger, etc that when combined comes out in one form only, RAGE! I use the principles of no mind and mental discipline to keep it buried deep because I have no control of it except to determine to release it or not. Released it takes “No Mind” to unimaginable levels with no thought, no pain, only a pure release of adrenaline. This the dark side of me and the lessons I’ve learned in life which remind me of Satin’s words when he first tempted man “Eat of the tree of knowledge and you shall be as God, knowing good and evil”. I carry this always but there is another code of Budo roughly translated goes like this “Always be prepared for battle and live life with each breath”.

Survival mindset? This is my only mindset…May God have mercy on my soul!

[Rick]

I think you make some excellent points. Few train, which I think is the problem.

[Winter]

I agree that any training improves reaction.

There's "training" you can do even on untrainable events like an assault on your BIL.

That training would be war-gaming. It's a bit late to think about fields of fire and likely enemy avenues of approach when it's time to start shooting.

When did this forum become a martial survival forum?

[crashdive123]

It didn't, much to the chagrin of a few.

[JPGreco]

Didn't bobzilla think it was though? lol Or is martial survival different from militants?

Anyways... klkak, what you said is very true. I have minimal training in first aid from Boy Scouts and a pathetic first aid course I take for coaching. However, with never really having to use it, the few times I did, it was as good as it should have been (at least to me). I felt like I was fumbling around, even though I was right about what I was doing. And these instances were rather minor situations. Luckily, my training did allow me to function, but nowhere near the same level as an EMT can.

[crashdive123]

Klkak - I've posted this before ..... Not sure if it was unique to the Submarine Service, but we had a saying - "Train the way you are going to fight, because you will fight the way you train". Don't get hung up on the word fight. That saying held true for ALL training. Piloting, navigation, ship handling, fire fighting, damage control, rescue at sea, helo transfers, ship's destruct, and on and on.

[Rick]

Bars too????

[Alaskan Survivalist]

There are many situations that will require a trained reaction without time to think that have nothing to do with battle and still have to draw on the same qualities. Whether falling into class 5 white water or being charged by a bear from 20 feet there is no time to think it though and must rely on your instincts. Training is not just knowing it but training enough that it becomes your instinct.

[crashdive123]

Absolutely. It's terrible to see how the young, untrained Sailor can become hoodwinked so easily after being plied with libation. Training is important.

[crashdive123]

There are many situations that will require a trained reaction without time to think that have nothing to do with battle and still have to draw on the same qualities. Whether falling into class 5 white water or being charged by a bear from 20 feet there is no time to think it though and must rely on your instincts. Training is not just knowing it but training enough that it becomes your instinct.

Yep. That was my point.

[Rick]

I knew there was a moral to the story. No morals, of course, but a moral.

[klkak]

It's not a martial survival forum.

I used a scenario my background as an ABGD instructor as an example only in the OP.

I feel sorry for anyone in this country that thinks their future will include defending their home with inter-locking fields of fire. Or running for the hills watching their back trail and shooting at anyone following.

Time would be better spent preparing for things that are more likely to happen. Here in Alaska that would be an earth quake/tsunami or power outage in the middle of winter.

I credit my military training for making me prepare the way I do. It was good solid Military training, not Militant or Survivalist training.

[Pal334]

Klkak!!!! So you were that rotten SOB? :) " As instructor at the US Air force Air Base Ground Defense school (ABGD) I would put each new class of students through the same scenario when they arrived." I went through many sessions, and I agree with you basic premise. Training gives you confidence, and a basis for action / reaction. In my simplistic way, I felt it gave me the ability to "switch gears" in an emergency , my training and experience gave me that little extra time to evaluate a situation and react. So far, I never had to panic during a situation, now afterwards, sometimes was a different story.

[Winter]

Sorry Klkak, I must have misunderstood.

I prepare as my risk assessment dictates.

Starts at power outage and water shortage and goes clear through unemployment, earthquakes, and those nasty things that may require interlocking fields of fire.

Preparedness, as such, is not wilderness survival.

I have forums for the interlocking fields of fire discussions,,lol.

[Pal334]

You also hit a good point :"I feel sorry for anyone in this country that thinks their future will include defending their home with inter-locking fields of fire. Or running for the hills watching their back trail and shooting at anyone following"

The most likely things that folks should prep for are the non military "problems". In my experience, with a few exceptions, folks with military backgrounds seem to seek a decidedly non military primary course

[your_comforting_company]

Could it be called "intuitive reaction"?

When you can make a set of moves in response to whatever stimuli without hesitation (i.e. needing time to think) you are already a step ahead. You have to know what action to take without having to assess, register, and then take action.
I think this is a really good article. Good points made by all. Thanks!

[Rick]

I'm a weather guy myself. Other things could happen but I know the odds are much, much greater that I'll be hit with a power outage or a tornado than food riots. Food riots only happen around here after the local football game.

[klkak]

Sorry Klkak, I must have misunderstood.

I prepare as my risk assessment dictates.

Starts at power outage and water shortage and goes clear through unemployment, earthquakes, and those nasty things that may require interlocking fields of fire.

Preparedness, as such, is not wilderness survival.

I have forums for the interlocking fields of fire discussions,,lol.

That is a positive and productive mind set.

[klkak]

You also hit a good point :"I feel sorry for anyone in this country that thinks their future will include defending their home with inter-locking fields of fire. Or running for the hills watching their back trail and shooting at anyone following"

The most likely things that folks should prep for are the non military "problems". In my experience, with a few exceptions, folks with military backgrounds seem to seek a decidedly non military primary course

I never really thought about it that way but I think you are right.

[klkak]

Could it be called "intuitive reaction"?

When you can make a set of moves in response to whatever stimuli without hesitation (i.e. needing time to think) you are already a step ahead. You have to know what action to take without having to assess, register, and then take action.
I think this is a really good article. Good points made by all. Thanks!

"Intuitive reaction" is very descriptive.

It's my stance that someone who has trained while under stress is able to move and think at the same time as apposed to needing time to think.

[Winter]

Not sure what "primary course" means.

I hope for the best and prepare for the worst. If the power for the whole island is down, ok, not a huge issue. If it's still down 2 weeks later I'll expect people to be hungry, irrational, and unfriendly. At that point I go Infantry.

[BENESSE]

Not sure what "primary course" means.

I hope for the best and prepare for the worst. If the power for the whole island is down, ok, not a huge issue. If it's still down 2 weeks later I'll expect people to be hungry, irrational, and unfriendly. At that point I go Infantry.

I tend to relate to that way of thinking.

[klkak]

Here is another example.

In 2006 I was involved in a really bad ATV accident that shattered my right Tibia. As soon as the ATV hit my leg I knew it was broke. I was still tumbling down the hill and was already planning my rescue.

As soon as I came to a stop I was yelling at my friend and telling him what to do. My friend is a highly trained military professional. As he was watching the whole thing unfold he too was planning what needed to be done. He was able to stabilize me and go for help all while I was telling him what he needed to do.

This was a stressful situation made highly stressful because I was telling him what to do. He had to ignore my almost unintelligible barrage while tending to me.

Because he had trained for many different stressful situations he was able to keep is cool, think on the move and facilitate a flawless rescue.

[BENESSE]

Another confirmation that there simply is no substitute for training.

[crashdive123]

Or - as Sourdough keeps saying - Boots in the field baby, boots in the field.

[Alaskan Survivalist]

My training including learning how to fall and my focus would have been on the fall. This sounds odd to people but thier are methods to prevent injury during a fall. You can see the same methods I learned use by stuntmen and professional wrestlers. They are not being hurt when they are being slamed around. Training does make a difference.

[Justin Case]

Here is another example.

In 2006 I was involved in a really bad ATV accident that shattered my right Tibia. As soon as the ATV hit my leg I knew it was broke. I was still tumbling down the hill and was already planning my rescue.

As soon as I came to a stop I was yelling at my friend and telling him what to do. My friend is a highly trained military professional. As he was watching the whole thing unfold he too was planning what needed to be done. He was able to stabilize me and go for help all while I was telling him what he needed to do.

This was a stressful situation made highly stressful because I was telling him what to do. He had to ignore my almost unintelligible barrage while tending to me.

Because he had trained for many different stressful situations he was able to keep is cool, think on the move and facilitate a flawless rescue.

Good thing he wasn't a cowboy,,,,,,, you might have gotten shot ! :)

[OhioGrizzLapp]

I am more of a civil unrest in the city guy. I live on the West side of Cleveland in a lil burg called Brooklyn and I think more than weather, chem spill, train derail, economy collapse etc.... something will trigger a inner city riot or unrest and will migrate very easy to where I am at. Various military training has prepped me for it, but more so, street survival has prepped me even further on it. I live in a fairly rough part of town...I have a simple win win in Brooklyn as it is nice right here, but are surrounded on all sides with blight and really hard times.....slowly the blight is creeping in given all the empty houses due to the real estate collapse.

I have tried to prep for just about anything from natural, man made to total end run.....I am getting close to my prepped epi-point and need to maintain the prep now rather than grow it more....the maintenance is going to be a real chore with rotations of goods and keeping the animals here and in PA all good and stuff. I will actually start to de-prep some of the things as I keep assessing the needs as we go along day to day.

I keep a good amount of barter and trade items on hand as well as our daily living items.

The training truly comes from living it on a day to day basis... it is our lives now.... not just something that we will do when a switch is flipped or something else happens.

I live with-in 40 miles east or west of two Nuke plants, as well as large coal burning and a HUGE water plant. Even with all of those here, I still feel that civil unrest is out major threat here in cleveland.... each day the have nots are losing more and the haves are gaining more... at some point it is going to boil over here.

I am not sure if it will turn militant or not, but I sure did see how katrina turned out to be a shoot out with roving bands of armed folks of all persuasions and levels. I had seen LA after Rodney King events.....Cleveland is truly at that point right now.....I think I am ready as can be for almost anything, especially an impending race and civil event here.... the tension is just too dang high for something not to happen... it is just the way it is. The whole SIEU, CWA and a few others really ramping up their union stuff and is making it very heated here as many here see those unions as craddle points for race relations.

Something has just got to give, I am just not sure what KNOT is going to slip.

[hunter63]

IMO
Training allows you to function, even with out thinking.
You have heard it over and over in interviews with rescuers, survivors, etc.over and over, "When the building blew I just let my training kick in and did my job".

Had First aid, CRP, Safety, OSHA, tornado, fire, chemical spills as well as personnel problems, fights, armed personnel, bomb scares, etc in a long supervision career. Mostly provided by management having training sessions.

Training is good, and as a student and some time instructor, I will tell you that a lot of people do not buy into it, if it's required. Seems there ar a lot of class clowns that never really gave it up.

Like everything else, you get out what you put in.

[Rick]

Someone on here had a signature for a long time that said, "You and you, panic. The rest follow me." I think it was Pal or Klkak, maybe. I've always thought that was a good description of leadership even if it is funny.

[Pal334]

Someone on here had a signature for a long time that said, "You and you, panic. The rest follow me." I think it was Pal or Klkak, maybe. I've always thought that was a good description of leadership even if it is funny.

Twas I for some time :). That was something I heard, maybe during the ABGD training Klkak refered to. I think they used it to get rid of the "weak sisters" . Seemed to be a good attention getter

[BENESSE]

American Board of General Dentistry training?!

[Pal334]

American Board of General Dentistry training?!

Ooops,,, Air Base Ground Defense. An Air Force school for training Security Forces personnel in basic combat skills.


Also there is a thread from awhile ago where we discussed Mental Preparedness:


http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?8431-Mental-Preparedness

[Rick]

I think the table top planning that you've posted on a couple of times is an integral part of this.

[Pal334]

Agreed, here it is for those that have not seen it. At the least, lends food for thought. Please feel free to comment

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?12241-“Table-top”-your-plan&highlight=Table

[Winter]

back when I was doing LRS, we made 3-d terrain models of the entire AO. Actually seeing the terrain helps a great deal.

[klkak]

Good thing he wasn't a cowboy,,,,,,, you might have gotten shot ! :)

I wouldn't doubt it crossed his mind. He's an ornery sort.

[klkak]

Twas I for some time :). That was something I heard, maybe during the ABGD training Klkak refered to. I think they used it to get rid of the "weak sisters" . Seemed to be a good attention getter

Pal, we may have talked about this before, but when and where did you do your ABGD training.

[Pal334]

Pal, we may have talked about this before, but when and where did you do your ABGD training.

First time was around 1973 , I think it was called AZR (can't recall what that stood for) at Camp Bullis. Then again around 82 -82 ( again, I think was at Bullis). And again I think in the mid 90's (strangely enough, do not recall where that was). And Silver Flag Alpha twice.

[klkak]

First time was around 1973 , I think it was called AZR (can't recall what that stood for) at Camp Bullis. Then again around 82 -82 ( again, I think was at Bullis). And again I think in the mid 90's (strangely enough, do not recall where that was). And Silver Flag Alpha twice.

I was an instructor at Little Rock in the early 90's.

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