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vahtryn
02-28-2011, 08:51 AM
Say you're home steading. Have a garden and raising animals. You and the family want to take an extended vacation.

How would you go about making certain everything stays in working order while gone?

I figure I'm going to automate most things (feeding, watering, and the garden I want to do is going to be based on aquaponics). I also figure I can hire someone during those periods of time to just do the basics.

How would you go about it? This is one of the final things I need to figure out before I finish up my ten year plan. I'm certain there will be times that I just need to get out of the country and see something I haven't in the world before.

Winnie
02-28-2011, 10:57 AM
Give these a try. There are people all over the world that are members. Some people do it to gain experience and work alongside the owners, others are capable of looking fter anything from a cat to a farm. Might be worth a go.

http://www.wwoof.org.uk/

Sourdough
02-28-2011, 11:11 AM
I would strongly suggest that you NOT be a homesteader/farmer. Your only vacation is when you die.

randyt
02-28-2011, 02:03 PM
where's the money going to come from for the vacation? Homesteading isn't a moneymaking venture, it's a money saving venture and I don't mean money in the pocket.

vahtryn
02-28-2011, 03:59 PM
Money, not that hard to come into in my career. I generally tend to work somewhat remotely after settling into a position. Therefore money will come, and money will go.

I'm tired of living the complete life that I have, yet I'm not willing to give up the opportunity to climb Mt Kilimanjaro should the opportunity rise. Nor am I willing to forgo seeing some rare event in another country completely.

My only vacation should not be when I die. If that's the case we have already lost as a people. With that statement I have to assume nobody ever travels on here. Nobody ever goes out and sees something that isn't local or regional. That can't be how life is supposed to be.

For some odd reason I seem to have a feeling that I'm going to have to go with the automation way. My career is built on automation. It doesn't matter what it does but I build automation within any sort of IT infrastructure. Adding physical machines to dish out food, clean out coops, water the plants and so forth just seems to be what I'll have to do at this rate.

Guess I better bust out my soldering iron and figure out how to get arduino to do things it hasn't been meant to do.

Though seriously, nobody here takes a two to three week vacation from home? No one wants to see things or experience life outside of where you're from from time to time? If you do, please, I'd like to know how you deal with it and make things actually happen.

BENESSE
02-28-2011, 04:22 PM
Though seriously, nobody here takes a two to three week vacation from home? No one wants to see things or experience life outside of where you're from from time to time? If you do, please, I'd like to know how you deal with it and make things actually happen.

We manage to travel and do all stuff we always wanted do by:
1. not having kids
2. not having property/land that requires hands on attention (ours or paid)
3. working our beehinds off so we can afford it
4. not being in debt

Unless you can afford to do it all, you've got to set some priorities.

Sourdough
02-28-2011, 04:34 PM
I don't know about where you live, but here in Alaska if they find your animals are not well taken care of you go to jail. Also most places if you leave your property unattended, you will not have any property when you return. Sounds like you need to buy a farm, and pay someone to run it, and you can help him if it pleases you to play farmer for a day.

vahtryn
02-28-2011, 05:40 PM
I grew up on farms. I grew up on farms that my family helped take care of not that we owned. I understand all about laws regarding taking care of animals, even on a small scale. I have not mentioned once that a living creature would be neglected. I don't want to "play farmer for a day."


1. not having kids
I've already decided never to have children. Thank you planned parenthood for that one. I will not go into the reasons I decided not to breed as it generally causes discontent.

2. not having property/land that requires hands on attention (ours or paid)
I have a goal to purchase land within ten years. So I am trying to figure everything out when it comes to asking questions of this nature.

3. working our beehinds off so we can afford it
I bust my *** every day. I'm not exactly a lazy bastiche.

4. not being in debt
I have the debt to pay for my truck which is over in 21 months.

I asked a very simple question. Now I see that the idea of "vacation" does not exist on this forum so I will go towards my own thought process and ideas on how to make it possible. A vacation does not necessarily mean going to see Big Ben in London, but could just mean having a week long hunting trip in Wyoming. It just means getting away from your day to day grind.

While I am a newer member here I am also not just some ignorant internet jockey looking to do something retarded. Instead of just going out and doing it right now with no plan for the future I think about these things. Hence asking a fairly normal question and hoping for some sort of constructive response.

randyt
02-28-2011, 05:41 PM
Some of the folks around here make deals with other folks in their situation. You watch my livestock for a couple weeks and I'll watch your livestock for a couple weeks. you cannot fully trust automation in my opinion. I would not trust anything but personal attention when it comes to livestock.

Sourdough
02-28-2011, 06:00 PM
While I am a newer member here I am also not just some ignorant internet jockey looking to do something retarded. Instead of just going out and doing it right now with no plan for the future I think about these things. Hence asking a fairly normal question and hoping for some sort of constructive response.

I think you got honest responses, you just did not get the responses that you wanted.

hunter63
02-28-2011, 06:14 PM
Try not to vacation at harvest time....waste to much food.
Hire some one to watch your stuff, we do.

Be prepare to have your stuff get broken in to, power goes out, fridge fails, water lines freeze.
Batteries will go dead on vehicles, light bulbs go out, mail need forwarding, list is endless.

Take your animals with you, or don't have them.

Most people can't afford to be farmers today, unless they are 3- 4th generation. And make any money.

Homesteading is a state of mind/way of life, not a place.

Don't ask a question, unless you welcome answers...........

finallyME
02-28-2011, 06:26 PM
I don't have a homestead. I have a couple rabbits, a dog and some turtles. When my family leaves for a couple days to be with family, I pay my nephews to come over and feed the animals. So, to answer your question, you find someone you can trust and pay them for their troubles. It is either that or get rid of the animals before you leave and get new ones when you come back.

mosquitomountainman
02-28-2011, 08:20 PM
Maybe we qualify as homesteaders since I think that's what we are. We're currently on a two month vacation in southern Nevada. You can see my wife's blog at ************ for more details on that. You can see my blog at ****************** to see if you think we qualify as homesteaders. We generally find time to do things we want to do. We do things on the cheap. Incidentally, we have seven kids and seven grandchildren. We have one son at home who takes care of our critters but we have two neighbors who would if we asked (we've done the same for them). We have no debt. Our property is paid off. We work our tails off during the spring, summer, fall and early winter so we can have two or three months in late winter to play in warmer places. We'll be taking time off this summer to teach at Dirttime 2011 in southern California and hope to take a couple of weeks off to take the motorcycle back East this fall to see friends and relatives there. We also have a very low income but what we do make generally goes to have fun. We have everything else we need. (Incidentally, I write and trap for my main incomes and do other odd jobs from mechanical repairs to off-grid solar design and installation for income. I'm also currently negotiating a deal for my first book.) We simply don't need a lot of money.

Just in case it sounds like a lot of drudgery, we also do fun things in spring, summer and fall. We just do them locally.

crashdive123
02-28-2011, 09:48 PM
Mosquitomauntainman - I had to remove the links to your blogs. You cannot post a link to your sites in the body of your post, but you can include them as part of your signature line if you like.

crashdive123
02-28-2011, 09:55 PM
V - I don't think that you can say
Now I see that the idea of "vacation" does not exist on this forum based on the responses that you got from three people. As to your question on homesteading and vacationing - I think you need to define what you mean by homestead. Here's what I mean - if you live in a cold climate - and your homestead is off-grid - and you store canned goods as part of your food stores......keeping them from freezing will require constant attention. If on the other hand - you do not live off grid and enjoy many of the "suburban" lifestyle luxuries........ I think H63 had some good advice when he said get somebody to watch the place while you're gone.

rwc1969
03-01-2011, 12:07 AM
For me homesteading would be an extended vacation. But, I'd suggest making good with neighbors and hope they can keep tabs on things while you're gone. But, if they're homesteaders too, they might not have time??

LowKey
03-01-2011, 09:47 PM
It's all pretty much already been said. Have a friend stay at the house. If you plan to leave on a whim, you shouldn't be relying on the produce from a garden that may dry up while you are gone. You still have to find someone to feed and water the livestock. Or at least check on your automated systems.
I'm still dreaming of that homestead where I can bunker in. Also the day when I am no longer required to fly anywhere.

Trabitha
03-01-2011, 09:49 PM
Could never go on a vacation when I was a kid because of that...so that's reason number one why I don't have farm animals yet. ;) Maybe one day.

BENESSE
03-01-2011, 10:00 PM
Only in NYC...
When we travel we have to board Mr. Tibs (19 yr. old cat) at the vet's because he really needs to be observed 24/7, not just fed & littered once a day when he was younger. And that costs $90/day, vs. $10 when one of the staff in the building stopped by once a day to take care of him.
Anyone doing anything for you costs money, and a favor is just an obligation that you'll need repay down the road. There's always a catch.

Rick
03-01-2011, 11:20 PM
You don't always get to have your cake and eat it too. If you want a homestead replete with livestock then an extended vacation to climb Mt. Kilimanjaro is probably not going to be in the cards. You have the homestead and the animals because that's what you enjoy. If you enjoy traveling then you may have to forgo the animals.

hunter63
03-01-2011, 11:33 PM
Our fore-fathers bought the calves, piglets, and chicks, in the spring, grew the feed, fed and grazed them all summer, butchered them in the fall.
Not too many people had enough money to feed animals all year.

Friend up the road at "The Place" decided to get into raising beef.
Bought 2 calves, last spring, number 34 and number 35,........... never name anything you are gonna eat.

Grandkids came to visit, I thinking he now has a couple of 1200 pound lawn keepers..........

randyt
03-02-2011, 07:53 AM
one thing when it comes to livestock, "good fences makes for good neighbours". My brother has good fences, a pond and good grazing. When he leaves, his cattle are OK but even so he has a friend check on the cattle.

mosquitomountainman
03-02-2011, 05:01 PM
We live off-grid and store "freezables" (canned goods, paint, etc.) in the root cellar. When it's -20 F outside its a "toasty" 45 inside the root cellar.

Benesse: There is some obligation to return favors but then there are usually obligations with friendships anyway. We call it "being neighborly." City folks can live their entire life without ever knowing the neighbors. Here, it's not that way.

Crashdive: I put the links in the signature line. Apologies offerd for the indiscretion.

RWC: I love the life we live and it is like an extended vacation. But it is nice to do something different at times too. Homesteading isn't 14 hour days for seven days a week. When you figure driving time I used to put in more hours at my "job" than I do homesteading. We are the only ones we know who do it "full time." Of the others we know, at least one in each family has an outside job. Being debt free really frees a person. Providing most everything you need frees you up even more.

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