My soapbox: I am not my father's son

[your_comforting_company]

Ok.. I just needed to vent, and you folks don't seem to mind so much since I usually pass along some ideal or whatever, but this past week has really taught me a lot about myself and how different I am from the people that surround me on a regular basis.

So my dad killed an 11 point buck a few weeks ago when he and I went hunting together. I helped him drag it out of the woods. We came to my house to the "hangin' tree" and I skinned it for him and quartered it up. It's my dad so no charge, right?

Well, I really did it so that I could have the skin and brains. Fair enough.. BUT.
He gave the whole deer away. To quote him, "I gave it to them ni....s at work, hahaha". Didn't offer me or my uncle or my grandmother (his mom too), or anyone in the family the meat. Said it was too tough and gristly and musky from the rut...

Well, you see. I have this idea, that if we live more simply, we don't need as much money to find our "comforts", like supper. I hunt hard during season to stock up on food for the coming year. That reduces the grocery expenses so I am not forced to spend my time making money. My dad knows this.
I also process my own meats. If I had to fork over $100+ for every deer I killed, I would go broke.
Don't you know I would have made room in the freezer for that deer?

The only thing my father wanted off that deer was the horns. He had absolutely no intention of using any other single part of the deer. He had no intention of eating any of it. He killed that magnificent animal for pride and glory, and I'm telling you right here and now that I am NOTHING like my father. These are the kinds of men who need to go to church and ask forgiveness for having absolutely NO RESPECT FOR THE GOOD LORD'S CREATION. Every time I've seen my dad in the last two weeks, he's had to show those horns, and every time he shows them in my presence, I point out "That's way more horns than I can eat in a year".

So I was out in the chop shop yesterday hand stretching the skin I'm making the video's with when he pulled up in the yard. He laughed and made smartass comments about all the work I was putting into it. He said "That's wanting something bad".
I pointed out that it was Sunday and this is my time with the Lord, showing my appreciation for the life of an animal that was taken callously and with no respect.. As if I were performing the penance for his actions. He got a little ill about it and I replied "You spend 5 days a week trading your time to your boss to make a paycheck, when you could be out doing something for yourself and appreciating the world we've been given, only to go home at night and sit idly in front of the tv doing NOTHING. Then you go trade that money for whatever it is you want, no matter the effect it has on the earth because "I won't be around to see it"... newsflash:
I might be.
Your grandkids might be.

You want to know why the world is going to hell in a handbasket?
It's because men like him don't give a damn about anything but 'outdoing the joneses'. "Look what I have. I bet you don't have one as nice as this."
Pride and glory have taken (by force) a front seat and humility and respect have had to move to the back of the bus.

This is the man who raised me, yet we are complete opposites. I don't kill things I don't intend to eat. I take no pride or glory in killing.

I was going to tan this skin out and give it to him as a throw/blanket for his easy chair, or fix it so he could wear it as a shawl for extra warmth. I've decided since he didn't want any of the rest of the deer, that I'll keep it. He didn't have any appreciation whatsoever for the deer and didn't want to keep any of the rest of it, so I'll make use of what little I got to keep.

My uncle is basically the same way (they are brothers). We hunt together all the time. When he kills a deer he get's all excited and giggly. I normally want to cry and usually shed at least one tear for the animal.
I don't know how many deer he has watched me skin, but I promise you one thing.. He had no idea how to skin the last deer he killed. He apparently cannot learn by watching, nor doing, or either he doesn't give a damn either. If you hand him a knife, he's going to scrape bone with it (at 50 yrs old, still don't know how to use a knife), slice the skin to shreds, waste all the meat that isn't easily available, like hams backstraps and shoulders, and the rest is going to the yotes.
Then he's ready to go back and kill another. Always in a hurry to kill more.

Over the last few weeks, I've lost a lot of respect for people that I thought were deserving of respect. Through my growing love of all things primitive (and just doing things for myself) I realize that my affections were seriously misplaced. For 31 years now, I've looked up to the wrong people.

Why is it all these years, whenever they took interest in something, be it boats, or guns, or fishing, or trucks, or (you name it) I tried to show interest in it, yet when I'm knapping or tanning, I'm left all alone. Nobody shows interest and usually make a mockery of me and my ways. I'm left with only my kids and wife to even hold the camera for me.

I've been tanning for a few years now and in those years I've only had two other people come to my house with any sort of interest in any of the things I do. One of them is my wife's brother. My neighbor's adopted kids have come to me this week asking for help with their hides.
They asked me "What do you charge to tan a deer with the fur on"
"I don't charge anything but your time"
"What do you mean?"
"I'd rather show you how to tan your own skins. 'Give a man a fish, and all that."
"We don't have the tools"
"I'll be glad to let you use my tools"

.. I have not seen them since

It would appear that I'm unique. No, I'm not special. I'm different just like everyone else.
I'm not a product of my raising. I am a product of my own experiences.

Thank you for putting up with my little rant.
Be respectful of the world we live in. We all live here with His little creatures, and since they are the closest thing we will ever witness to true freedom, be humble. There is absolutely no joy to be taken in the taking of a life, man nor beast.

Tread lightly on the earth.

Those who seek their rewards in this life, shall have them.:angel:
Those who are meek shall have their rewards after this life.

People disgust me. Especially my old man.

I was sitting in the stand last week when a little yearling walked out into the area, all alone. I raised the gun just long enough to realize how small the deer was, and I lowered the gun to my lap and said "Today is not your day". I asked the good Lord to keep that baby deer in the area where I was hunting because I knew there were more hunters out there like my dad and uncle who are just trigger happy murderers. I knew the little baby would be safe there with me.
I wondered if it was alone because I killed it's mother the previous week.
I watched the little deer for about 30 minutes before it meandered off into the distance. I bawled like a child as it left and waited all day to hear the gunshot of some hunter who couldn't resist the chance to kill.

I never did hear anyone shoot. Amen.

[Justin Case]

I hate to hear of family discourse,,, But I Understand your frustration and can honestly say I am glad you are your own person and will not pass on the ways of YOUR father to YOUR children ,, YOU are a remarkable person, this is obvious by your posts,, Your outlook on life and the world around you is commendable IMO :)

[Winnie]

Well, there's nothing wrong in shedding a tear or two when you take a life, it's good to know there are responsible hunters. I can't really comment on your father or uncle. But you've obviously become your own man, as any parent would wish for their child. Personally, I would beam with pride at the person you have become. Just keep doing what you're doing and let others go their own way. Big hugs.

[Rick]

Actually, YCC, you are a product of your upbringing. We all are. Certainly our experiences help shape us and we are capable of making our own choices in life but our formative years are what set the mold, if you will. So there must have been some very good influences there when you were young. If not your father, then your mother.

Embrace your father and respect him because he is your father. You do not have to like what he does but he may have been raised that way, too. Hate the sin but love the sinner. Your anger is your problem to deal with. So let it go. He did not make you angry. You allowed yourself to be angry or disappointed as the case may be. Right now you are struggling with your thoughts about the incident and that's probably a bigger problem than the actual incident. Keep reminding yourself that it's the thoughts that are troubling you and they are your thoughts. Before long you'll find they are gone.

[Justin Case]

@ Rick,,, You could have been a hell of a good psychologist ! :)

[Rick]

No thanks. It just takes stepping back and looking at things objectively. I'm my own worst enemy, too. We train ourselves from a very early age that someone else is to blame (this is no reflection of YCC's post just a comment in general) and it's really hard to break that habit as an adult. I have to tell myself that all the time. "Wait a minute. This is MY problem. These are my thoughts so stop it." The result, however, is I rarely get angry over stuff. And that makes life a lot more enjoyable.

[BENESSE]

YCC, I have a lot of respect for you and your approach to all living things--creatures and plants. I only wish you were not a rarity. Hopefully you'll pass your love and knowledge to your kids and anyone who is smart enough to listen and learn.

Don't feel bad about your old man. He is probably doing the best he knows how. We all have a need to share all that's important to us with our parents--to be understood and encouraged. But for a lot of us it never happens or it happens too late. Just know that you are not alone in the way you feel.

[RangerXanatos]

Besides, Remy (Volwest) took the role of psychologist. :canadian: :innocent:

[Rick]

Now that right there is funny I don't care who you are.

[Winnie]

Crikey! now there's a blast from the past! I was never sure whether he was psychologist or just plain psychotic. I remember thinking the latter when he told me to swap out my crisis chocolate for 25lbs beans!

[wildWoman]

We don't get to pick the families we're born into. You are the one and only person you'll have to live with till the day you die, so keep on doing what is right. Trying to change other people or wishing they'd be different is pretty much a fruitless effort. You can only keep walking your talk and thereby show that things can be done differently. People who want to will pick up on it.

[your_comforting_company]

Thanks guys. I do realize that it's my own thoughts that are poisoning me, but I can't help but think that these old men are still capable of respect and still have the capacity to learn.

I also have to recant on the upbringing. I was molded by a lot of bad examples. Therefore I am a product of my upbringing. I learned what not to do.

Their actions are not my burden to bear. All I can do is my best. Try do to what is right.

I feel a lot better now. Thanks.

[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

YCC I can understand your pain. Not many people feel the way we do about our passions. I remember the ostracism I got when a teenager, because of my interests in primitive ways. The big difference between you and I in this, is that I let what others thought turn me away to some degree, where you have held steadfast. Funny but no matter how many times I have "Turned away" I keep coming back.

In a sense Rick is right, There was a LOT of influence on me in regards to these things. But they weren't from anyone I ever met. My influences came from the books I read. I LOVED reading about Mountain Men, and Indians and wanted to recreate their lifestyle. I learned more from the books I read than from the people around me, as my Mother almost raised me singlehandedly. She didn't hunt, nor skin animals. I did have one Uncle teach me to "Case a hide", but that was just one time with an otter hide.

Everything else I have learned about primitive ways is from some small amount of Oral History, and reading. The application all came from me taking that info and going and doing it. I have no where near the knowledge about the primitive ways that you do. However If I had stuck to my guns and not let others dissuade me, I would probably be teaching you instead of the other way around. You just keep doing what you are doing and don't let others bring you down about it.

This is Part of St Francis' prayer for animals, It seems as if it is the way you already feel and may you find some resonance in yourself with these words. I have omitted in this quote the biggest religious overtones so that hopefully no one can find offense with it. It speaks kind of what you seem to feel, as do I. For those who may be offended by religion, just think of the "You" in this as "Nature".


You created the world
to serve humanity's needs
and to lead them to You.
By our own fault
we have lost the beautiful relationship
which we once had with all your creation.
Help us to see
that by restoring our relationship with You
we will also restore it
with all Your creation.
Give us the grace
to see all animals as gifts from You
and to treat them with respect
for they are Your creation.

We pray for all animals
who are suffering as a result of our neglect.
May the order You originally established
be once again restored to the whole world

[crashdive123]

Ycc - who knows - you might eventually influence the way he thinks about things. Don't give up.

[panch0]

YCC I respect your way of looking at the world. I try to see it the way you do, but in this age its hard. I also get upset when some hunters act blood thirsty. Poco thanks for that St Francis Prayer. I just looked up the whole thing and will be putting it up in my shop. He is my and my fathers name sake.

[crimescene450]

I have to say YCC, you are one of the most awesome people ive ever met on the internet.

[DOGMAN]

YCC...I really appreciate your post. It really hits home with me, because I have a very similar father. My dad got me into hunting and dogs and I am thankful for that everyday...but, when I think of the things I have seen him due to animals, and the disrespect he has for life- I cringe and can't believe I am related to him....

However, in his heart he is a good man, and has been great to his family....in the past I tried to change him, but it never worked- we argued, shouted and even threw punches (me first) and rolled around in the kitchen (he was alot tougher than I had figured) but it never sank in....turns out he is just as hard headed as me!

But, over the years now, he has slowly been changing his ideals on a few things...mainly because what he has seen from me....his entire approach to dogs has changed drastically in the past decade because of the results he has seen with my dogs. Before he fed his dogs as cheaply as possible and ruled them with a heavy hand and a charged up shocker....however, now he has seen the rewards of top notch nutrition and steady, gentle, consistent training. He also has started developing a stronger sense of ethics in hunting, because of me just thanking him for teaching me how to hunt, and then casually talking about conservaton (RMEF, DU and TU) and the importance of being able to have wildlife to hunt for future generations.....

I never preach to him anymore, or try to suggest my way is better, or the right way....because I have learned that never works with him because of his competitive, egotistical mind-set....but, if i just do what I do around him- the truth seems to have a way of making itself known and he investigates it further on his own....

I am sure your father has some redeeming qualities- focus on those....Be thankful that he is still alive and that you guys have any type of relationship, because there are many people that don't have even that. Maybe the best thing might be just drop all talk and thoughts about hunting with he and his brother from now on...

Your old man may not appreciate your ethics and lifestyle but I sure admire them. Keep up the good work

[rwc1969]

One thing I've learned is the path least travelled has few people on it, most times it's a lonely road. But, when you do meet someone along the trail it makes it that much better. I'm glad you're one of those people YCC.

My dad taught me at a young age about respect for life among other things. I believe he too travelled the path and paid the price for it as well. His brothers and friends did not have or uphold the same values.

The whole time I sat in my stand hunting deer this season a family of black squirrels would come out and play, work on their nests, store nuts, and as the season progressed, retrieve those nuts from under the snow.

They got used to my big alien but sitting up there in the tree along with them and are no longer afraid. I've been wanting to go back now as I could easily limit out, but I won't, because I feel I've come to know them and take heart in the fact that they too are walking the same path as me. It wouldn't be fair chase.

Their world gets smaller everyday and yet they still come out and play, never seem to have a frown upon their faces.

DOGMAN said something that I feel is spot on:

"...I never preach to him anymore, or try to suggest my way is better, or the right way....because I have learned that never works with him because of his competitive, egotistical mind-set....but, if i just do what I do around him- the truth seems to have a way of making itself known and he investigates it further on his own...."

YCC, at least you have a wife and kids that support you, the rest can either take it or leave it IMO.

[your_comforting_company]

Thank you very much for that prayer poco. It will be going on the wall in the chop shop.

I appreciate all the comments guys and it's good to know I'm not alone in how I feel.
Perdurabo
"I will endure until the end"

The neighbor's kid showed up this afternoon. I was really surprised. We spent all day outside working on his deer skin (I was out there anyway, finishing the video tan). It's the first deer he ever harvested and he wants to make a fur-on vest. I was taken back a step when he showed up. We had a great time getting sloppy, sharing jokes and laughs, and just enjoying each others comforting company. We managed to get the whole thing fleshed, framed, and salted. Next weekend, we hope to brain and stretch it. I was really impressed. Think how special the vest will be for him.
An opportunity to share with a young person is really very special.

[Rick]

I'm genuinely glad Karma stuck around awhile for you.

[wildWoman]

The neighbor's kid showed up this afternoon. I was really surprised. We spent all day outside working on his deer skin.

Isn't it great the way things sometimes work in life? :)

[JPGreco]

If I'm ever down that way I would be happy to hang out with you for a week. Not saying that the skills you would be able to teach me would go to good use (I have never hunted) but I would be appreciative for the chance to learn and respectful of your skills and outlook on life. Though the knapping is definitely interesting to me.

The thread asking if I could put down an animal if I had to, I have no doubt. I've witnessed a deer skinning before and it wasn't something I would be afraid to do.
However, though I have no need to hunt, if I ever were out, not only would I want to take as much off the carcass as possible and of course be respectful for what it gave me, but I don't think I could take down anything like a 10pt buck. I see something that majestic and it makes me think it deserves to go on living (if it were a necessity, yes, but not otherwise). Like a lot of people go hunting and are respectful, use everything, etc, but still want the trophy. I have no desire for the trophy and would rather let it live and take a smaller one or younger one. I feel the same with trophy fish. It lived long enough to become that big, let it live longer.


I didn't read everyone's replies cause your post is pretty intense, but I know I'm not the only person that agrees with you and respects your skills. Hell, I came here wanting to know how to make a knife, and I'm learning soooo much beyond that. If there were more people out there like I've met on this site, the world would be a better place.

[LowKey]

YCC, I hear your rant. My only word of advice is, if you still love the man despite his faults, don't let the sun go down on harsh words. I missed my chance to say a last goodbye to my dad and can only say I was damn sure glad I had visited a month before and had buried the old hatchets we both carried. Well... maybe we just scratched some dirt over them, but still, it would have been a real burden if our last words had been the angry ones.

You're a good man. I admire (and envy) your skills and your world outlook.

[your_comforting_company]

... but I don't think I could take down anything like a 10pt buck. I see something that majestic and it makes me think it deserves to go on living (if it were a necessity, yes, but not otherwise). Like a lot of people go hunting and are respectful, use everything, etc, but still want the trophy. I have no desire for the trophy and would rather let it live and take a smaller one or younger one. I feel the same with trophy fish. It lived long enough to become that big, let it live longer.

... If there were more people out there like I've met on this site, the world would be a better place.

This is definately a reflection of my feelings on the matter.

And yes WW. It is funny how things work out like that. I thought the same thing. Perhaps it is just my nature or past experiences that make me so cynical. When a young person does show interest, I can't resist sharing what little I know. It was quite the redeemer for my plighted thoughts.

[Ted]

YCC, my brother, you just keep being you. I am alot like you, in more ways than you will ever know. People like us are few and far between.

I remember the first time I confided in my father about my thoughts of the world, money and technology....ect. I was crying uncontrolabley! He gave me a big fatherly hug and said "Son, don't let the ba****ds beat you down!"
I was 14 at the time.

When I was 22 I made my first fire with a bow drill and everone laughed at me! I got comments like "Man you sure must be bored!" Or "You really need to get out more." So I went over to show my dad and he just shook his head and said "Son...you are a wierdo!"

When I was 32 I quit a job so I could get the cash from a profit share plan, buy some property, and walk as lightly as possible in the money world. My mother and sister had me thrown in the state hospital for evaluation!..LOL
After 2 weeks I walked out free and clear!

Point I guess is, don't expect too much if any support, Don't get mad at the lost souls (they don't know their lost) and above all don't let the ba***ds beat you down!

Love you bro!!!

[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

what little I know.
Anyone mind if I nominate this for the biggest joke of the year?

Little? Little? PLEASE don't tell me I am the only one that sees the Joke there....
YCC I think half of the instructional threads are yours...at least for primitive stuff/living.

[Justin Case]

Anyone mind if I nominate this for the biggest joke of the year?

Little? Little? PLEASE don't tell me I am the only one that sees the Joke there....
YCC I think half of the instructional threads are yours...at least for primitive stuff/living.

6 green thingys and counting ;)

[crashdive123]

Outstanding. It'll be a day he tells his kids and grand kids about.

[Rick]

Six?! That's like a freak of nature or something. Six? Talk about walking funny.......

You deserve everyone of them, too!

[Batch]

Well its a good thing your dad ain't a member of this forum YCC. Six green thingies would be awful tempting to a trophy hunter.

It seemed your dad didn't think y'all wanted the meat. I see people waste stuff all the time. Unfortunately that is how this world spins.

Tell him you could make good use of the animal if he doesn't want it and take advantage of their wastefulness by filling your freezer. Then find the common ground with your family. They really are the most important things in our lives.

[hunter63]

YCC, Congrats on the 6 thingies, sorry to hear about your father.

I will tell you this, I am fresh out of grandparents, father's, mother's, aunts uncles, FIL and am missing a BIL.
Only MIL left, it's still better to have them around to at least get mad at, that not having them around.
You can chose you friends but not your family, stuff might not be all good, but they are still kin.........
Your are doing in just fine in my book, man.

[your_comforting_company]

Outstanding. It'll be a day he tells his kids and grand kids about.


That is my sincerest hope.

I have so many feelings to put here, but honestly, that right there says it all.

As ethical outdoorsmen we have to be sick with our ways. We have to sneeze on every person we encounter and spread our ideas like a virus.
Imagine a world full of people sick of the modern wasteful ways. Vomiting out the ignorance and disrespect... That's a bit theatrical, but you get the idea. Not sure I can put it into the right words, lol.

I do sincerely hope he got the "bug" and does teach others the ideas I passed on to him. Sometimes our behaviors say more than our words. My kids understand these things because they are exposed to it every day. Maybe once he's made his vest and his friends see it, they'll get the bug too?.

@ poco. :detective:you know exactly what I meant ;) the more we learn, the more we realize we need to learn. Every time I think I've answered one question, I find 3 more questions that result from that answer.

@Batch. surely he would have offered it to one of the family members before giving it away as if a blight onto lesser peoples.

@ted. I live in a small town. We all pretty much know each other. It's just a matter of time before they lock me up too! I'm the only person I know who wears animal skins on a regular basis! So when someone is rude to me or makes a silly comment, I don't let them ba***rds beat me down. I'm a smart guy. and witty. I usually leave them with something to think about. even if one cheek is bruised.

And for the record, My dad and I didn't have any harsher words with each other than any other day. You'd have to meet him to understand. He's kind of a jerk to everybody. He said his piece, I said mine. The difference is that I let it become my burden by getting angry.

Has anybody heard of the tale of "The two monks and the gross slimy monster"? It's from this book:
http://www.amazon.com/Everything-Bedtime-Story-Book/dp/1580621473
We got it for the kids years ago and that tale has always stuck with me. If anyone can find a copy of that tale online to share with everyone, I'd really appreciate it. Story #59, page 161.

[Asger]

YCC you are an inspiration, just wanted to tell you that.

[JPGreco]

One of the sayings I go by is:

People are like crabs in a bucket. Put a bunch of crabs in a bucket and none of them will ever get out because they will keep pulling each other down.

You decided to learn some actually useful skills and people scoff at you for it because they don't have the patience, determination, intellingence, or audacity to be different. You do. And for that, you are a better person. Not inherently because of what you decided to do, but because you did it. Your children will be better people for it because they will be brought up in an environment that will applaud their attempts and raise them up through any of their failures. Your role as a father will be to be their rock. If grandpa or anyone else tries to pull them back down, you must be their rock to stand tall on. Its difficult to be different. As stated, the path less traveled can be lonely. However, in my experience, those are the people that impact others the most as well.

[rwc1969]

Another thing to remember is that eventhough they might not appreciate it now it may be appreciated in the future, perhaps generations into the future.

I didn't get to see how my grandparents lived and they were very much homesteader self reliant types. As a kid I wasn't too intersted in hearing the stories my mom, and uncles would tell of growing up that way and how hard it was or wasn't. But, a seed was planted and as I grew older I came to appreciate it much more.

[tipacanoe]

YCC, I will only say this, and that's when you are looking in a mirror there is a very good man looking back at ya. You will never have trouble walking with your head high. This country needs many more like you.

[yellowcab]

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