Movie remakes.

[Sarge47]

Ranger X's thread on the remake of "True Grit" got me to thinking; What is the motivation for someone to remake a movie, especially one that has done well? My friend & mentor in magic is a college professor who's favorite film is "The Day The Earth Stood Still." He went & saw the remake and was livid! He hated it!

One of my favorite "early" survival films is "Flight of the Phoenix" with an all-star cast, including the late James Stewart. Great writing, great directing, great film work, and of course a great cast. Then came the remake starring Dennis Quaid in the role that James Stewart had played. He was very good in the role,, but the writing was bad. 1st, they added a woman to the group and that changed the whole tone of the story. Then, the bad guys show up, vastly outnumbering and out gunning the good guys. Still they wait until the survivors are on the plane starting to fly out when they swarm down on them like something out of an "Indiana Jones" movie. :confused1: It would have been much simpler and much more believable if they had just casually walked into the survivors camp earlier on & simply shot the men and raped the woman before killing her as well.

Other remakes which, in my opinion were NOT as good as the original were:
The Taking of Pellam 123.
The Manchurian Candidate.
The Day the Earth Stood still.

I have not yet seen the remake of True Grit yet, and will withhold my opinion until I view it, which will not be for sometime since I have to wait for it to come out on DVD so I can rent it. I go along with the old saying: "If it ain't broke don't fix it." Too bad Hollywood doesn't agree. :whistling:

[JPGreco]

The motivation is that hollywood is out of ideas so they have to try to copy old movies or old ideas and tend to butcher them by trying to make them better with their own ideas. If they had their own good ideas, they wouldn't need to copy old movies.

[SARKY]

Hollywood has nothing but talentless zipper heads for writers these days. That is one of the reasons we are seeing more and more comic book stories coming to the screen. At least the writers for comic book story lines still know how to write.

[canid]

I often hate these remakes, but I usually expect little going in and am occasionally pleased, just as I am when any work I've enjoyed is adapted to another medium and isn't run into the ground.

I just rewatched Red Dawn last night, and I'll probably watch the remake when it comes out, but if I don't expect much it's hard to be disappointed. As much as that film was a classic, it probably won't be extremely hard to match or top.

[Justin Case]

Star Trek 2009 was EXCELLENT ! but unlike True Grit, The actors were darn near doubles for the original guys,, and with 2009 special effects thrown in, the movie was one of my favorites,, The original Spock was in it as well ,,

@Sarge "Flight of the Phoenix" is one of my favs as well :)

[RangerXanatos]

If they had their own good ideas, they wouldn't need to copy old movies.

I have thought this for a long time. The last original movie I've seen was probably Avatar.

I too usually think the original movies are better than the remakes, but a couple of better remakes come to mind such as House on Haunted Hill and The Texas Chainsaw Massacre although House on Haunted Hill is nothing like the original. But there are far more better originals.

And if you didn't know, they are remaking "The Mechanic" with Jason Statham playing Charles Bronson's character.

Another thing that has really started to irritate me is just about every movie is now being made in 3D.

[Rick]

It's interesting that most folks complain the movie wasn't true to the book. Now the remakes aren't as good.

[Justin Case]

It's interesting that most folks complain the movie wasn't true to the book. Now the remakes aren't as good.

well,, since they say the new True Grit is taken from the book,,, and it is almost exactly like the first True Grit,, that means the original True Grit was taken from the book as well,,,, so,, comparing the two True grits, the first True Grit was best ;) :bored:

[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

OK I for one am a big Westerns genre fan. The last few movies that were released really were "flops" at the box office. 3:10 to Yuma was a remake, although I haven't seen the original. In this Genre the only Originals that have "made it" were Hidalgo, Dances with Wolves, Tombstone(a Remake sort of), Open Range and going really far back, Lonesome Dove and Jeremiah Johnson. None of the others were really worth what they ask at the Theater. So... they are trying to get the old classics and remake them.

Although Tom Selleck makes some Westerns, none seem to go to Theaters. Almost all are "made for TV"... usually TBS. Almost every one are good ones too. Really if it weren't for Kevin Costner and Tom Selleck there would be almost no new westerns at all.

It seems the writers can make plenty of MODERN shoot-em up thrillers, but not much in Westerns. Really the last "Western" they released was a "Modern Western".... Brokeback Mountain.... Look at the reviews for it, If it weren't for it's controversial topic it would have been a Mega-flop. That was one of the most boring movies I have ever watched. I would just as soon watch paint dry. Thank Goodness I didn't pay anything to see it.

signed.... "EAGERLY AWAITING A GOOD, NEW, ORIGINAL WESTERN."(Probably be another 5-10 years before that.)

[Winnie]

Oh Poco, my dear friend. I too am a Westerns nut. You forgot(takes deep breath) The Outlaw Josie Wales, Unforgiven, The Quick And The Dead, Young Guns(and young Guns 2) Just a few good more modern films:yes:

[RangerXanatos]

There is word about Madeleine Stowe making a western: Unbound Captives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbound_Captives

Or how about a non-traditional western?

Cowboys and Aliens.
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[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

Oh Poco, my dear friend. I too am a Westerns nut. You forgot(takes deep breath) The Outlaw Josie Wales, Unforgiven, The Quick And The Dead, Young Guns(and young Guns 2) Just a few good more modern films:yes:
Yeah, I couldn't name them all! Josie Wales IMO is the best of the ones you listed, also the oldest of the ones you listed. The Young Guns took a little too much license with the portrayal of Billy I think. Still a good movie though.

There is word about Madeleine Stowe making a western: Unbound Captives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbound_Captives

Or how about a non-traditional western?

Cowboys and Aliens.
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Nah.... Just seems like a sci-fi set in the "Old West". May be a good movie though.... still just not quite a Western.

[Justin Case]

There is word about Madeleine Stowe making a western: Unbound Captives http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbound_Captives

Or how about a non-traditional western?

Cowboys and Aliens.
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Dang,,, That looks pretty good ! :)

[Winnie]

Oo Oo I forgot!!! Tremors 4 The Legend Begins. Now there's a classic movie!!

[finallyME]

One of the benefits to being young is not having the chance to see the original. So the remake doesn't seem so bad. :wheelchair:

[Sarge47]

There are some really great ideas out there to make cool movies from, here's some I would like to see:

A movie version of the book "The Frontiersmen" that shows the real lives of
Simon Kenton, Simon Girty, & many other famous people.

The real story of the two magicians: The Weiss brothers. Elhric changed his name to Harry Houdini, and with his brother, Hardeen, fooled the world into thinking they were competitors, when actually they were in cahoots all along.

These stories are fact, not fiction, and, if done right, would make excellent moves.

[Rick]

Any western that has Tom Seleck and Sam Elliot (The Shadow Riders!) in it is just destined for greatness. It just doesn't get any better than that.

A favorite of mine is To Kill a Mockingbird. I think the movie was just as good as the book.

[BENESSE]

On SD's suggestion I read this book and was transfixed.
It would make an excellent epic movie (kinda like Gone With The Wind) and I'd like to see Steven Spielberg shoot it, who IMO, he has an amazing range--The Color Purple, Schindler's List, Jaws, Minority Report, etc.

The book begins as an adventure on the Klondike, where the hero, nicknamed Burning Daylight, becomes the most successful entrepreneur during the Alaskan Gold Rush. However, after achieving his fame and fortune, he finds no more challenge in the north and heads to the States for new worlds to conquer. After he is cheated out of his fortune by a couple of Wall Street characters, he learns the lesson of dog-eat-dog and becomes as much of a scoundrel as those who robbed him. He ventures to California and envisions the future success of Oakland, buys property, sets up utilities and public transportation systems through overbearing and shady tactics. He begins to drink, starts to go soft in the belly, loses his good looks and vitality. And then, for the first time, he falls in love. The last third of the book charmingly relates how a good woman turns a now rotten man around. It is a love story, a rousing adventure and a real good depiction of the ills of big business.
It's easy to see why this book was so popular in London's day. The book is out of print now but if you can find it, read it. It will be time well spent.

You can also read the book here, chapter by chapter.
http://london.sonoma.edu/Writings/BurningDaylight/

[Justin Case]

On SD's suggestion I read this book and was transfixed.
It would make an excellent epic movie (kinda like Gone With The Wind) and I'd like to see Steven Spielberg shoot it, who IMO, he has an amazing range--The Color Purple, Schindler's List, Jaws, Minority Report, etc.

The book begins as an adventure on the Klondike, where the hero, nicknamed Burning Daylight, becomes the most successful entrepreneur during the Alaskan Gold Rush. However, after achieving his fame and fortune, he finds no more challenge in the north and heads to the States for new worlds to conquer. After he is cheated out of his fortune by a couple of Wall Street characters, he learns the lesson of dog-eat-dog and becomes as much of a scoundrel as those who robbed him. He ventures to California and envisions the future success of Oakland, buys property, sets up utilities and public transportation systems through overbearing and shady tactics. He begins to drink, starts to go soft in the belly, loses his good looks and vitality. And then, for the first time, he falls in love. The last third of the book charmingly relates how a good woman turns a now rotten man around. It is a love story, a rousing adventure and a real good depiction of the ills of big business.
It's easy to see why this book was so popular in London's day. The book is out of print now but if you can find it, read it. It will be time well spent.

You can also read the book here, chapter by chapter.
http://london.sonoma.edu/Writings/BurningDaylight/

Thanks for the link B :)

[canid]

On SD's suggestion I read this book and was transfixed.
It would make an excellent epic movie (kinda like Gone With The Wind) and I'd like to see Steven Spielberg shoot it, who IMO, he has an amazing range--The Color Purple, Schindler's List, Jaws, Minority Report, etc.

The book begins as an adventure on the Klondike, where the hero, nicknamed Burning Daylight, becomes the most successful entrepreneur during the Alaskan Gold Rush. However, after achieving his fame and fortune, he finds no more challenge in the north and heads to the States for new worlds to conquer. After he is cheated out of his fortune by a couple of Wall Street characters, he learns the lesson of dog-eat-dog and becomes as much of a scoundrel as those who robbed him. He ventures to California and envisions the future success of Oakland, buys property, sets up utilities and public transportation systems through overbearing and shady tactics. He begins to drink, starts to go soft in the belly, loses his good looks and vitality. And then, for the first time, he falls in love. The last third of the book charmingly relates how a good woman turns a now rotten man around. It is a love story, a rousing adventure and a real good depiction of the ills of big business.
It's easy to see why this book was so popular in London's day. The book is out of print now but if you can find it, read it. It will be time well spent.

You can also read the book here, chapter by chapter.
http://london.sonoma.edu/Writings/BurningDaylight/

that sounds like a worthy read.

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