Survival as a way of life. [Archive] - Wilderness Survival Forums

klickitat

12-30-2010, 11:58 PM

Warning this is a 20 minute video, but an absolute must watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-XP30aG8bE&NR=1&feature=fvwp

Rick

12-31-2010, 07:59 AM

That is subsistence living at its most difficult. I'd probably last about 2 hours there and would no doubt complain the whole time.

Camp10

12-31-2010, 09:57 AM

Klickitat, your past handful of threads sent me for a search of a video I watched a while ago..I didnt find it but I did find this one on the same man and a pretty neat little website too! http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/tag/heimo-korth/ the video is almost an hour long.

I'm sure most of the people on this site know who Heimo Korth is but if you dont, he is one of the last remaining trappers still allowed to live and trap the arctic wildlife refuge (ANWR). He was there before it was federal property and because of that,was allowed to stay.

klickitat

12-31-2010, 01:44 PM

Thanks for posting that. I seen the original years ago on PBS. I will watch this tonight when all is quiet. Thanks again, this will be a good watch.

crashdive123

12-31-2010, 01:47 PM

Pretty interesting way that he retrieves his kills from the frigid waters.

crashdive123

12-31-2010, 02:54 PM

While that may have been how they had to live at Point Hope in 1947, It seems that they have embraced more modern technology as it became available. http://www.tikigaq.com/point_hope.shtml

klickitat

12-31-2010, 04:00 PM

Things have changed a lot, but there was a ton of things that one could extract from that film. Like what you pointed out when it came to that retrieving technique.

I was also checking out how they had their mittens tethered. Now days I usually see the cords through the coat sleeves. In this film they had the cord attached to the back of the parka and were able to throw the mittens behind them to get them out of the way.

Also the use of a canvas tarp, cutting the fish before drying to aide in the drying process and so on...

Rick

12-31-2010, 05:29 PM

I did pick up on the mittens when they went inside the store. He just crossed them behind his back to get them out of the way. He did a lot of running, too. A LOT of running.

mosquitomountainman

12-31-2010, 07:48 PM

Awesome movie. Can't imagine anyone wanting to live there though. I was amazed at how little they needed to live on/with. Our stuff wouldn't fit in a 24 foot Uhaul.

klickitat

12-31-2010, 08:14 PM

I just watched it again. Two things I noticed. The mittens were actually tide to a loop in the middle the slipped over the head and was not actually attached at all. Easy to take off if needed.

I also noticed that the ammo purchased at the trading post was .30 Remington. Could you imagine if someone on one of the Alaska forums or even here asked about a cartridge in that class for a one gun survival gun? :lol: Looked like they were doing just fine to me.

Rick

12-31-2010, 08:16 PM

I was kind of surprised that he tossed his weapon down on the dirt and ice the way he did but, hey, if it works for him, it works for me.

mosquitomountainman

12-31-2010, 09:03 PM

They'll take a lot more abuse with iron sights than with a scope. Was still a little surprising though. Noticed he didn't carry it with a round in the chamber.

crashdive123

12-31-2010, 09:05 PM

Since he carried it in a scaboard there was really no need to have a round chambered.

Winter

12-31-2010, 09:05 PM

Rick, the Eskimo has absolutely nothing to do but clean the rifle. :)

I don't quite comprehend why the Eskimos settled there.

mosquitomountainman

12-31-2010, 09:14 PM

Since he carried it in a scaboard there was really no need to have a round chambered.

Why would that make a difference?

crashdive123

12-31-2010, 09:24 PM

You're not, IMO going to be doing a "quick draw" when carrying that way. Carrying a weapon with a round chambered is for quick deployment. In that terrain there was probably little chance of being unexpectedly startled by an animal. It doesn't seem as though there was a need either, as the game probably had very little contact with humans - especially the seal.

mosquitomountainman

12-31-2010, 09:45 PM

You're not, IMO going to be doing a "quick draw" when carrying that way. Carrying a weapon with a round chambered is for quick deployment. In that terrain there was probably little chance of being unexpectedly startled by an animal. It doesn't seem as though there was a need either, as the game probably had very little contact with humans - especially the seal.

Thanks, Where I hunt if you don't shoot fast you won't get much. Ranges tend to be short. The movement and noise of chambering a round will definitely give you away.

crashdive123

12-31-2010, 09:50 PM

Just my .02. Others may disagree.

Rick

12-31-2010, 11:36 PM

I just thought that weapon would probably have been a pretty prized tool for him. Not only for protection but for acquiring food. And it wasn't like he was going to skip to town and pick up another one. That thing probably cost a lot of hides. I would have been laying out hides to lay it on and then made the kid stand guard over it.

I noticed the two big tools he pulled out of the sled were a shovel and an axe. Makes sense but kind of surprised me given the barren land.

Alaskan Survivalist

01-01-2011, 12:06 AM

That Alaska was gone with with the Native claims settlement act and the trans Alaska pipeline the same way statehood ended homesteading. Our population has exploded to 600,000 and the few of us still around that remember those days are out numbered 10 to 1 even in Alaska. Sure there was a lot we did not have but that also includes parts of civilization I can easily live without.

Batch

01-01-2011, 01:51 PM

Pretty interesting way that he retrieves his kills from the frigid waters.

We use bridge gaffs for gators as well as larger fish or piers and bridges.

Wes in the Rockies

01-02-2011, 10:40 AM

Good Vid, thanks, -50 wow, When I was in Northern Mn, it would get down to -40. But I didn't have to do to much outside. We had the same kind of setup for our mittens, I would be cautions dropping my gun too hard at -50 it may break LOL.

BearBirch

01-02-2011, 01:13 PM

Really liked the film. A real superdad if you ask me :)
Heimo Korth isnt the only guy who did that. I saw this movie about a Canadian who moved up into the wilderness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss . You get to see him build his own logcabin, hunt his food and live alone with the wild. He lived there for 30 years. Its a nice watch.

crashdive123

01-02-2011, 01:33 PM

Really liked the film. A real superdad if you ask me :)
Heimo Korth isnt the only guy who did that. I saw this movie about a Canadian who moved up into the wilderness. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYJKd0rkKss . You get to see him build his own logcabin, hunt his food and live alone with the wild. He lived there for 30 years. Its a nice watch.

He US born and did it in Alaska.

BearBirch

01-02-2011, 02:10 PM

He US born and did it in Alaska.

Ups, my bad.
I really liked the film though.

Seniorman

01-04-2011, 03:09 PM

... I also noticed that the ammo purchased at the trading post was .30 Remington.

Also on the shelf were a couple boxes of .30-'06 Springfield ammo.

I wouldn't have been surprised to see a few boxes of .30-30 Win. on the shelves, if the camera had panned along the shelf. At that time, the .30-30 Win. was a very popular cartridge with the natives of the north.

In the book "Hunters Of The Great North," by Vilhjalmur Stefansson, Harcourt, Brace & Co. Publs., (c) 1922, Stefansson, who lived for many years with the natives of the northern Alaska and Canadian shores, recounts that the favorite rifle of the natives was the Winchester 94 .30-30 Win. He said they killed everything with it, including Polar bears. Stefansson's rifle was a custom .256 Mannlicher Gibbs. He stated he killed "dozens of Polar bears with it."

That was a very interesting video of life at that time in far northern Alaska.

I am new here and didn't see an "Introduction Forum," so "Hello" to all. This is an interesting site and has a lot of useful information. I've been "bustin' the boonies" for many years but figure any new or different way of doing things "out there" I can learn or try are beneficial.

S.M.

Pocomoonskyeyes3

01-04-2011, 04:05 PM

Hi Seniorman. Yes we do have an Introduction section, you can find it here......
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14
Also there is a "sticky" there that you can use as a "Template" to help with an Introduction.
Welcome Home.

Seniorman

01-04-2011, 07:18 PM

Hi Seniorman. Yes we do have an Introduction section, you can find it here...... Welcome Home.

Thank you, Pocomoonskyeyes3. Obviously I missed it. That is what happens when you become a "geezer." :D

I'll jump over to your link.

S.M.

Alaskan Survivalist

01-04-2011, 07:30 PM

Also on the shelf were a couple boxes of .30-'06 Springfield ammo.

I wouldn't have been surprised to see a few boxes of .30-30 Win. on the shelves, if the camera had panned along the shelf. At that time, the .30-30 Win. was a very popular cartridge with the natives of the north.

In the book "Hunters Of The Great North," by Vilhjalmur Stefansson, Harcourt, Brace & Co. Publs., (c) 1922, Stefansson, who lived for many years with the natives of the northern Alaska and Canadian shores, recounts that the favorite rifle of the natives was the Winchester 94 .30-30 Win. He said they killed everything with it, including Polar bears. Stefansson's rifle was a custom .256 Mannlicher Gibbs. He stated he killed "dozens of Polar bears with it."

That was a very interesting video of life at that time in far northern Alaska.

I am new here and didn't see an "Introduction Forum," so "Hello" to all. This is an interesting site and has a lot of useful information. I've been "bustin' the boonies" for many years but figure any new or different way of doing things "out there" I can learn or try are beneficial.

S.M.

Alaska was invaded in WW II and military surplus was what was most available for the first part of my life. The 30.06 was the standard here for a long time.

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