An interesting question I was asked today,

[welderguy]

A friend called and asked about reloading 50 cal shells, here is what he asked me, cheaper than dirt has 150 rounds for 550.00 , they also have inert 50 cal rounds that have no primer or powder for 40.00 for 25 shells, so his question to me was, could the bullet be pulled the case primed and then reseat the bullet for a useable round. My answer to him was , I have no flipping idea and it got me curious so I figured I would ask you all.

[klkak]

A friend called and asked about reloading 50 cal shells, here is what he asked me, cheaper than dirt has 150 rounds for 550.00 , they also have inert 50 cal rounds that have no primer or powder for 40.00 for 25 shells, so his question to me was, could the bullet be pulled the case primed and then reseat the bullet for a useable round. My answer to him was , I have no flipping idea and it got me curious so I figured I would ask you all.

If they are inert military then no! Nearly all military brass is un-reloadable.

[Sourdough]

it is very common to pull bullets & reuse them.

[randyt]

if the case hasn't been demilled I don't see why not.

[klkak]

if the case hasn't been demilled I don't see why not.

Military brass does not have a single flash hole in the middle of the primer pocket and it is very difficult to convert them.

[welderguy]

I don't know if there mil surp or commercial shells . But i will pass that info along thanks.

[kyratshooter]

If they are inert military then no! Nearly all military brass is un-reloadable.

Quite the contrary. It is only receintly that commercial .50bmg even existed. All the development of the Barrett 50 was done with surplus BMG pulled from the link belts.

The LGS has the larger primers needed for the military rounds. Midway has all the componants needed. Lee makes dies and most larger reloading presses will accomidate the round. My quick scan through the catalog shows about $3 per round as reloading cost with all new componants and $2 after the brass is bought.

Almost all the european military ammo is HARD to reload, but can be recharged with the proper tools.

All American and most Canadian and British military ammo is boxer primed and highly sought after for reloading. I have thousands of rounds of reloaded .308 and .30-06 military brass I have reloaded for years. My last batch of milsurp .303 British ammo was boxer primed and has already gone through the reloader a couple of times.

If the ammo is demilled/inert it usually has a hole drilled in the case and is ruined for reloading.

[randyt]

that may be although I've reloaded many rounds of military brass. some were boxer primed and some where berdan primed. most american surplus brass I've come across has been boxer primed. with a boxer primer it is decapped and then the primer pocket is reamed to remove the crimp. the berdan primed brass a special decapper is used, it is a hook that gouges into the primer and levers it out.

this post is in response to post number 5

[welderguy]

I looked it up in the catalog and it says spent primer no powder so I'm guessing there not demilled they are linked .

[Rick]

Try these guys. Just scroll down on the page.

http://50bmgsupply.com/components.shtml

[klkak]

Quite the contrary. It is only receintly that commercial .50bmg even existed. All the development of the Barrett 50 was done with surplus BMG pulled from the link belts.

The LGS has the larger primers needed for the military rounds. Midway has all the componants needed. Lee makes dies and most larger reloading presses will accomidate the round. My quick scan through the catalog shows about $3 per round as reloading cost with all new componants and $2 after the brass is bought.

Almost all the european military ammo is HARD to reload, but can be recharged with the proper tools.

All American and most Canadian and British military ammo is boxer primed and highly sought after for reloading. I have thousands of rounds of reloaded .308 and .30-06 military brass I have reloaded for years. My last batch of milsurp .303 British ammo was boxer primed and has already gone through the reloader a couple of times.

If the ammo is demilled/inert it usually has a hole drilled in the case and is ruined for reloading.

I stand corrected...,

[SARKY]

Inert rounds may or may not be drilled in order to make them unusable. All US and canadian ammo is Boxer primed and is easily reloaded. All military primers are swaged in which makes it tough to get them out and the primer pocket has to be either swaged out or the swage has to be reamed out in order to seat the new primers. It is a pain in the arse to do this but once it is done you don't have to do it again on that brass. Primers, powder, and appropiate dies are available. You may or may not need a new press to accomidate the dies.

[hunter63]

I guess I gotta ask, What are y'all gonna shoot them out of?

As far a mil-brass .308, .223 etc, all I have found are boxer primed, don't know about
Wolf and the Russian. Chinese stuff.

[kyratshooter]

I guess I gotta ask, What are y'all gonna shoot them out of?

As far a mil-brass .308, .223 etc, all I have found are boxer primed, don't know about
Wolf and the Russian. Chinese stuff.

The Russians are manufacturing a bookoo of NEW surplus now Hunter. Everything from 8mm mauser to 30-06, .223 and 7.62x39 and all of it is steel jacket, steel cased, Berdin primed and corrosive. The Yugoslavs are turning out a bizillion rounds of 9mm daily and it is also Berdin primed and corossive.

Much of it is going to Afganistan and Iraq from what I hear and we get the runs the government turns down for QC or just does not want.

I have to be real careful with pick up brass at the range now due to there being so much berdin primed .308 being shot out of the black wonder guns.

[randyt]

steel cases I don't bother to keep. brass cases if I hold them in the light just right I can see either the double berdan hole or the single american primer hole.

now days we can get unprimed brass in about any and every cartridge. there was a time when it made sense to reload berdan primed brass. not anymore in my opinion. there was a time when norma had all the weird brass, now it's available every where.

[Rick]

Well, the Wolf stuff isn't Berdan. It's all non-corrosive, brass cased and reloadable.

http://www.wolfammo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75&Itemid=117

[2dumb2kwit]

Well, the Wolf stuff isn't Berdan. It's all non-corrosive, brass cased and reloadable.

http://www.wolfammo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=75&Itemid=117

That's the wolf "gold".

The other stuff is different.

http://www.wolfammo.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=77&Itemid=116

As a side note, my mini-14 loves wolf mil. classic.

[Rick]

And?????? Use the Gold. Simple.

[randyt]

ya know whats strange or at least to me. Hiram Berdan the inventor of the berdan primer was a american yet america uses a anvil type primer and the other parts of the world use a berdan priming system. odd

[2dumb2kwit]

And?????? Use the Gold. Simple.

I didn't want anybody to read your post, get the wrong kind of wolf ammo, and think that the all knowing minister of science (Rick) was mistaken.

We can't have that....now can we?

[Rick]

Mistaken! Mistaken! You sir, are mistaken. Everything on that page was non-corrosive. If they wander off willy nilly and purchase something somewhere else then I can't be responsible for that. I can lead them to the promised land but they have to stay focused.

Mistaken indeed.

[Beans]

Military brass does not have a single flash hole in the middle of the primer pocket and it is very difficult to convert them. :cursing:

All US military small arms brass is boxer primed, Which has a single flash hole in the primer pocket and can be reloaded. I have been reloading US military brass ( rifle and pistol) for over 40 years without any problem.

The only thing that has to be done is that military brass has the primer crimped in to keep the primer from backing out when firing fully auto and jamming the weapon, this included US military pistol ammo also. This crimp has to be removed either by swaging or removed with a sharp tool.

Berdan primed brass has two flash holes in the primer pocket. They also can be reloaded but it is a PIA to do so and requires some specialized tools.

Bredan primed brass is usually European or Eastern manufactured.

FWIW the Berdan priming system was developed in the US and the Boxed priming system was developed in Europe. Strange.

[Pepper]

I reload 223 military brass all the time its cheaper and most times better then remington winchester ect .thicker walls

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