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canid
12-22-2010, 10:28 PM
I've been putting off making myself a new crook knife for a while so I figured I'd get started today.
I carved down a decent piece of cherry that was laying around and cut out some steel. This is more of that bed frame material i've been using so much. It really is decent stuff.
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/PC210005.jpg
Profiled the blade and started to put in the bevel:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/PC210007.jpg
Put in a nice full curve for deep work on spoons and bowls:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/PC210008.jpg
After heat treat I cut a well fitting slot in the handle a bit over twice the depth of the tang's thickness. I crushed some pine pitch and sprinkled it into the slot. I heated the tang a bit so it would melt the pitch and fit it in place tightly. Made a small block to fit over the tang, sprinkled on some more pitch, heated it and fit that block in place, then clamped everything together tightly. When it was cooled, i sanded it flush with the contour of the rest of the handle.
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/PC210009a.jpg
The handle got very grubby while i was working, and the tru-oil wasn't as well cured as i had thought so tomorrow will be re-sanding and coating it, in addition to cleaning up the bevel and giving it a good sharpening. I guess I should go to the pet store and get some rawhide to bind it.
here are a couple other woodworking knives i've done recently:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/webtemp/PC210003.jpg
That's a great job. Are you going to sharpen just one side or both sides of the blade?
Pal334
12-23-2010, 05:48 AM
Nice work, looks right handy
crashdive123
12-23-2010, 08:11 AM
Very cool. You are a man of many talents.
canid
12-23-2010, 09:51 AM
just one side Rick; in this case, the outside.
canid
12-23-2010, 10:22 AM
I like the compromise between a classic crook knife blade and a hook knife but the next one will be mostly straight with only a minor sweep at he ricasso and tip and almost flat along the blade's length otherwise. also still need a variety of fine carving blades. i'd forgotten just how handy specialized blades can be.
canid
12-23-2010, 04:22 PM
well, i got back to work. I finally managed to pick up a gas torch, so heat treating such small blades will be a breeze.
I also finally re-stocked on 6" 80 grit disks, which if used gingerly are among my best friends in the shop.
I cut down some walnut and started roughing out handles:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/th_nextbatch_02.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/?action=view¤t=nextbatch_02.jpg)
i cut them out with the coping saw (another excellent friend to have handy) and started fairing the curves with a round sanding block. used the surform to round out the straight portion of the handle, and the curved block to get into the recesses. cleaning up the surface with the disk and block using 120 grit.
not looking forward to cutting out the new blades with a dullish hacksaw.
JPGreco
12-23-2010, 10:36 PM
What did you use to cut the notch for the blade in the handle?
Also, whats a crook knife used for? Looks good regardless.
canid
12-23-2010, 11:28 PM
crook knives are used for all sorts of wood carving, for everything from fairing flat surfaces to splitting pieces of wood.
such a knife with a hook to the blade is also used - much as the smaller hook/spoon knives - for dishing (carving concave surfaces) as in spoon and bowl carving.
the slot for the tang was carved with that little red lacewood handled knife at the bottom of my first post. thank you for your kind words.
Rick, Pal, Crash: thank you as well. actually; i'm a man of a small hand-full of talents of arguable usefulness. lol.
ground out one of the new blades today and did the hardening. gotta do up the rest and i'll temper them all in one batch. my back hurts.
canid
12-23-2010, 11:58 PM
I should add that carving the slots out of this walnut is significantly more difficult than the cherry from the first handle.
JPGreco
12-24-2010, 12:31 AM
awesome, thanks a lot. I never even thought about it being for concaved surfaces. I figured it was a specialty tool, just couldn't wrap my mind around just what I would use it for if I just picked it up off the ground. I probably would have thought someone bent their knife and I would try to fix it... now I know better
JP - You can get right and left hand knives as well as single and double edge. The double edge allows you to cut on both the push and pull "stroke". It's a tool commonly used by wood workers and farriers for cleaning up hooves.
Here's a great article by Old Jimbo on crooked knives detailing different ways to make them.
http://www.oldjimbo.com/survival/ck.html
canid
12-24-2010, 09:57 AM
my last one before this is front and back edged, but i like them best for cutting on the draw.
one of the set i'm making right now is going to be left-haded, though many lefties are like myself, having grown up doing most tasks right-handed. i can barely do anything but eat and write with the left at this point.
Ole WV Coot
12-24-2010, 03:47 PM
I know I posted this before, somewhere but just in case for woodworking, high carbon X-tra sharp blades of all shapes just drive a cut nail into your handle and grind your shape keeping it cool to preserve the temper. Size can be determined by the size of the nail. Been doing it for years.
crashdive123
12-24-2010, 05:09 PM
I know I posted this before, somewhere but just in case for woodworking, high carbon X-tra sharp blades of all shapes just drive a cut nail into your handle and grind your shape keeping it cool to preserve the temper. Size can be determined by the size of the nail. Been doing it for years.
I have made a few wood working knives like this with cut nails baed on your previous posting. Works well.
oldtrap59
12-24-2010, 07:59 PM
Nice work canid. I have to agree with Crash. You are a man of many talents. I always enjoy seeing what your up to. Always interesting and informative posts. Now I have a question. In the 5th photo what is the darker handle made of? Wood I know but what kind? Second question I have is for Crash or anyone else that knows. I saw the comment in this post about making wood carving pieces from cut nails. I looked through 500 of Ole Coot's posts and didn't see anything about them. Maybe I just missed it but if anyone knows where that post is let me know if you would.
Oldtrap
canid
12-24-2010, 08:10 PM
Thank you. The wood on that knife is stained lacewood. It's awfully grubby now, having spend a lot of time in my grubby hands but it's a beautiful figure.
oldtrap59
12-24-2010, 08:21 PM
Do you have or know a source for small pieces of the lacewood? Would like to try using some on a couple projects. Would make a cool knife handle or fire piston.
Oldtrap
crashdive123
12-24-2010, 08:48 PM
Nice work canid. I have to agree with Crash. You are a man of many talents. I always enjoy seeing what your up to. Always interesting and informative posts. Now I have a question. In the 5th photo what is the darker handle made of? Wood I know but what kind? Second question I have is for Crash or anyone else that knows. I saw the comment in this post about making wood carving pieces from cut nails. I looked through 500 of Ole Coot's posts and didn't see anything about them. Maybe I just missed it but if anyone knows where that post is let me know if you would.
Oldtrap
Post 914 http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?p=89597&highlight=cut+nails#post89597
Do you have or know a source for small pieces of the lacewood? Would like to try using some on a couple projects. Would make a cool knife handle or fire piston.
Oldtrap
On-line - places that sell knife makinf supplies or exotic woods should have some. I found a local store that specializes in wood craft/wood hobby type stuff. They have a good supply. I'd look for a local place first.
canid
12-24-2010, 09:20 PM
if you can wait a bit i can send you a couple pieces. they're small, but if you need something bigger then ebay has a lot of good sellers for smallish board and turning pieces.
oldtrap59
12-25-2010, 04:30 AM
canid thankyou for that offer. I'm going to look around and see what I can find online as I have looked locally for exotics in the past with little luck. Not that Texas doesn't have them but all of Texas isn't what I would call local. Case in point. I bought some nice red oak and maple pieces on my last trip up north to make a couple of board bows. Just couldn't find what I needed around here. ( red oak and maple not even being exotic) Anyway I'll look around and see what I can find. Maybe we can do a trade for your small pieces for some antler at some point.(something I have alot of) thanks for the offer canid.
Oldtrap
canid
12-27-2010, 06:54 PM
I guess i forgot to put up pictures as the second one came along, but it's got it's first fine sanding, and it's stain/sealant drying.
here is some of the progress:
i crushed up some of the pitch with the flat of a knife against a firebrick:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/th_number3-01.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/?action=view¤t=number3-01.jpg)
next i sprinkled it into the slot and heated the tang of the blade a bit, then pushed that onto it firmly, so the pitch would melt and conform to the sides. after this cooled, i sprinkled more pitch on top of the tang and heated that:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/th_number3-03.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/?action=view¤t=number3-03.jpg)
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/th_number3-02.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/?action=view¤t=number3-02.jpg)
while still hot, i placed the small block shaped to fit over the tang in place and clamped this up to cool:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/th_number3-04.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/?action=view¤t=number3-04.jpg)
after this set up, i sanded this piece to conform with the profile of the rest of the handle:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/th_number3-05.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/?action=view¤t=number3-05.jpg)
these where then sanded fine, stained/sealed with some polyshades and placed to dry.
while this is drying, i started on the third by finishing the shaping of the handle, carving out the tang slot and cutting out a piece of steel for the blade. i shaped the portion of this that will form the tang, filed out a choil cut and profiled the blade:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/th_number3-07.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/?action=view¤t=number3-07.jpg)
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/th_number3-08.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/?action=view¤t=number3-08.jpg)
next, i ground in the bevel - this blade is now ready for fine grinding, heat treat and surface finish:
http://i602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/th_number3-09.jpg (http://s602.photobucket.com/albums/tt106/canid/Crook%20Knife%2002/?action=view¤t=number3-09.jpg)
by the time all is said and done, each knife will have a fine sanding, stain/sealer coat, two coats of tru-oil and a hand rubbing with wool with a fine sanding (and scraping, if need be) between each.
still have a couple more of these to start on as well.
canid
12-28-2010, 05:45 PM
i'm not currently happy with the way the finish is turning out, so i'm thinking of redoing it with something i learned recently, which is to wet sand it with fine grit using thinned tru-oil to fill the pores. i'll start by giving that a try no one of them and take it from there.
crashdive123
12-28-2010, 05:59 PM
OK.............
canid
12-28-2010, 06:02 PM
what did i say?
crashdive123
12-28-2010, 06:08 PM
what did i say?
You said..
i'm not currently happy with the way the finish is turning out, so i'm thinking of redoing it with something i learned recently, which is to wet sand it with fine grit using thinned tru-oil to fill the pores. i'll start by giving that a try no one of them and take it from there.
To which I said OK. Typing with just my left hand I sometimes abbreviate my posts. Had I been using two hands, I would have added ........ I'm really looking forward to seeing how that turns out. Make sure you post pictures and give a full review of the outcome. But, since I am typing with just my left hand, I'll have to leave it at OK........
canid
12-28-2010, 06:09 PM
i get you...
crashdive123
12-28-2010, 06:10 PM
Whew!!!!!!!!!
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