Need some guidance...Taurus handgun

[Trabitha]

Okay, I need to pick some brains about a problem I'm having.

In November, I purchased a Taurus PT 709 Slim from a gun show that we go to often. I was told that only 2 clips were shot through it, when the owner decided she didn't like it and sold it back to the shop she bought it from.
I bought the gun with a minor discount, and shot 3 clips through it, (total of 35 rounds ever shot through it) when we discovered a rather nasty crack in the receiver. Because Taurus is renowned for its warranty we called them first for assistance because the shop was more than an hour away. They honored their warranty and had me ship the gun to them. After weeks of back and forth I was told that it was unfixable and they wanted to send me a new one. GREAT!! No problem. We finally get the handgun back today, rush home to clean it, and under closer examination we find that there's a tiny little crack starting in the SAME EXACT LOCATION. :flare: I can't shoot this damn gun...and I don't even WANT this thing anymore. Does ANYONE here have any experience dealing with Taurus? Should I demand a refund from the shop that I bough it from? Will Taurus give me a refund for an obvious default? Help me out here guys...I don't want this piece of crap anymore. :(

[crashdive123]

I own two PT99's and a 5 shot 357 revolver. I have never had an issue. The 99's each have thousands of rounds through them. I would contact them, express your concerns, and find a suitable replacement (different model) or a refund o retail purchase price.

[Rick]

The first thing I'd do is make them aware of the problem. I'd call them and follow up with it in writing. I'd detail everything you've been through including dates and include pictures of the new crack. I'm assuming the crack was there before you even shot the first round through it.

My guess, and it's just that, is their liability only extends to repair or replacement and they probably won't reimburse you the cost of the weapon even at wholesale prices. You can certainly ask but I doubt they will do that.

You might send it back to them and have them repair or replace it and then sell it when you get it back if you really don't want it. Or take it to the gun shop and trade it for something else.

Sorry Crash, I was typing when you posted.

[crashdive123]

No problems. I'm sure the more input she receives, the better.

[Trabitha]

The first thing I'd do is make them aware of the problem. I'd call them and follow up with it in writing. I'd detail everything you've been through including dates and include pictures of the new crack. I'm assuming the crack was there before you even shot the first round through it.

My guess, and it's just that, is their liability only extends to repair or replacement and they probably won't reimburse you the cost of the weapon even at wholesale prices. You can certainly ask but I doubt they will do that.

You might send it back to them and have them repair or replace it and then sell it when you get it back if you really don't want it. Or take it to the gun shop and trade it for something else.

Sorry Crash, I was typing when you posted.

I haven't even shot this one...:(
I'm thinking I may get them to take this one, send me a new one, and sell that one. Thanks guys.
I'm so done with Taurus. I'm going back to my Kahrs. :gun_bandana:

[Camp10]

You might get a refund from the shop you got it at and let them fight it out with Taurus..it might be the quickest way to get rid of it. If they know you want to replace it with another one in their inventory, they might do the work to get it replaced. It would be worth asking IMO.

[kyratshooter]

Are you sure it is a crack?

Often metalwork can be deceptive.

I would take it back to the shop for examination by the shop staff. Ask them to call Tarus. That will give you backup on your claim.

Sad to hear your problem. I have had many Tarus products, none of them bad.

I really feel too many companies are trying to produce too many products in their panic to compete. Quality control suffers.

[Trabitha]

Yeah, it's a crack, Kyratshooter. This is on the polymer that they use on the slim. This particular gun was made to be small and lightweight for concealment. Sadly it looks as though they've sacrificed engineering for those things.

Camp, It got it at a gun show and when I called the guy I bought it from he was adamant that it's not his problem. "Read the contract, as is". Douche.

[Rick]

Well, you know of one guy you can avoid at the gun shows.

Vendor: "Can I help you?"
Trabitha: "No, not really. You sold me a cracked Taurus a couple of months ago and I was just looking to see if you had any more."

Potential customers walking away.

[crashdive123]

I'd make him famous at the next gun show. He'll either have you kicked out, or buy it back. Either way, it'll feel darn good.

[kyratshooter]

I would take it back to the FFL they shipped it through. Show him the crack for verification and call Tarus like nothing had ever happened. Get a return number and send it back for replacement AGAIN.

Ask for a different model as replacement. Something made from metal. You will never have any confidence in this particualr model. I wouldn't either.

I know you are upset and frustrated but you can come out of this without taking a $$$$$ beating if you use some patience. Hold out fir an intact gun and sell/trade it immidiately.

[glockcop]

Trab, I too have had very crappy experiences with Taurus auto's. The revolvers are pretty darn good, but those auto's are another story in my experience. There are folks here that have had great luck with their autos but not I. I will NEVER buy another Taurus auto and forbid them for off duty carry at our Department because of their questionable reliability/durability. I would return yours again for another replacement then sell that sucker really quick. You are right about staying with Kahrs. I carry one (MK9) as a back up/off duty and have nothing but good experiences with the steel framed ones. It seems that they too have had growing pains with the polymer framed guns but that has been addressed and rectified. The steel framed Kahrs are absolutely RELIABE AND VERY ACCURATE. You may want to check out the new Ruger subcompact polymer revolvers. They seem to be great cc weapons. Never heard a bad thing about them. I know a fellow officer with one and it's really nice and recoil is surprisingly light with HOT loads. Good luck with the Taurus and let us know how it goes.

[Rick]

Yeah, my wife carries a Ruger LCR .38 with Crimson Trace lasergrips. She doesn't like shooting +P but "standard" .38 isn't bad at all.

[glockcop]

Yeah, my wife carries a Ruger LCR .38 with Crimson Trace lasergrips. She doesn't like shooting +P but "standard" .38 isn't bad at all.

Brother, she's well armed indeed with a Ruger LCR.

[Rick]

I've started being a bit more respectful after I saw what she could shoot at the range.

[Trabitha]

Yeah, my wife carries a Ruger LCR .38 with Crimson Trace lasergrips. She doesn't like shooting +P but "standard" .38 isn't bad at all.

We've got that one too. It's a great gun to shoot! This 9mm was for carry though. The Ruger is just far too heavy and bulky. ;)

[Rick]

Heavy? It's only 13 ounces. Light as a feather. Your Taurus weighs 19.

http://gunsforsale.com/ghg/images/Ruger_LCR_05.jpg

[Justin Case]

why would the guy from the gun show care,, This new gun has nothing to do with him,, Taurus sent it to you,, I agree with the others, tell Taurus you want another model,,

Just my very humble opinion :) sorry you are having bad luck,, I too have had two pt99 AF in the past, LOVED them ..

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