Police calls no longer on scanners

[hunter63]

Kind of big deal brewing in Milwaukee (get it brewing,,,), seems the new radio system can't be heard on scanners.
Big gang fight at a local school, wasn't reported in the news for a week.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/87539437.html

So my question to y'all is this:
Is the media going too far, do you think anyone should be able to hear all calls.
Or those calls should not be let out for security reasons.

[Justin Case]

If it gets transmitted over the airwaves it can be heard,, Granted if scanners have certain freq's blocked it makes it harder,,,, but there is always a way around that,,

[Camp10]

If it gets transmitted over the airwaves it can be heard,, Granted if scanners have certain freq's blocked it makes it harder,,,, but there is always a way around that,,

Yup. They had to replace the scanners in our trouble trucks a few years back because police went to digital signal here. The problem was fire still uses analog so we had to come up with a system that will monitor both. It is still out there, it just costs more to listen.

[your_comforting_company]

I see no harm in listening over the scanner to what is going on in our community. It was a favorite pastime with my paw-paw before he died and was how we knew if roads were closed or woods were on fire. It added a little safety to commutes and added a little gossip to the porch swing :D

Though it would be very hard to keep them out of the hands of criminals. A criminal with a scanner would know exactly what the next move of his persuers would be. That could pose more danger to the officers, and bystanders.

[Rick]

It's really a matter of freeing up frequencies. It's not about blocking anything. The new systems allow the call to be transmitted on any available frequency. The call is received and returned on any available frequency, which is often a different one. Since your scanner is on a set frequency, you only hear one side of the conversation unless, by chance, it happens to be the same frequency, which is pretty rare. I think it's referred to as a "trunked" system.

[Justin Case]

Trunk systems have been around for a long time and newer scanners are "Trunk" ready ,, It sound to me from the OP that they are blocking those ems freq's ,, the same way cell phone ranges are blocked out out scanners,, ( easy fix if you have a soldering iron , lol) )

[hunter63]

In similar news, our local city council meetings are trying to ban texting at meetings. Seems the members are discussing things privately by texting and doesn't conform to "open meeting".

Just kinda make you wonder what's best,... all open information for everyone,... or need to know basis only?

[Rick]

Cell phone frequencies aren't blocked. They are outside the frequencies the scanner is allowed to pick up. You're looking at 800 MHz all the way up to around 2700 for the new 4G networks. Scanners can't pick those specific frequencies up by law.

Our LE agencies, fire and EMS just converted to trunking this year. Most of them are 851-853 Mhz and some are down at 154 Mhz. I think Red Cross is down at 47. Since they converted I can pick up one side of the conversation only. If I had a trunking scanner then I could hear both sides.

[Justin Case]

Cell phone frequencies aren't blocked. They are outside the frequencies the scanner is allowed to pick up. You're looking at 800 MHz all the way up to around 2700 for the new 4G networks. Scanners can't pick those specific frequencies up by law.

Our LE agencies, fire and EMS just converted to trunking this year. Most of them are 851-853 Mhz and some are down at 154 Mhz. I think Red Cross is down at 47. Since they converted I can pick up one side of the conversation only. If I had a trunking scanner then I could hear both sides.

Thats what I meant, They are blocked in the scanners themselves,, one little solder bridge in the right place will unlock that freq range,, at least thats all I had to do with the bearcat I had ,, LOl

here is one case http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/251/90/

*EDIT*, I see here it says something about pre 94,, all I know is that my scanner was unlocked and got cell phones,, no doubt illegal, but :oops:

as far as your non trunking scanner,,, you could try setting those trunk freqs in one bank and scan with no delay or priority,, you may get lucky and hear most of it ;)

[Rick]

Oops. Now I'm with you.

[sgtdraino]

Yup. They had to replace the scanners in our trouble trucks a few years back because police went to digital signal here. The problem was fire still uses analog so we had to come up with a system that will monitor both. It is still out there, it just costs more to listen.

This is probably it. Most of NC emergency services are now on digital. I'm no expert, but from what I've heard, an analogue receiver cannot pick up digital, and vice-versa. No amount of soldering on an old scanner will enable it to pick up digital, if it's an analogue scanner.

[hunter63]

This is probably it. Most of NC emergency services are now on digital. I'm no expert, but from what I've heard, an analogue receiver cannot pick up digital, and vice-versa. No amount of soldering on an old scanner will enable it to pick up digital, if it's an analogue scanner.

My electronic geek guy agrees with you, as he did the cell phone thing as well way back when, need different equipment.

Actually we had a stolen car stand-off this morning in Milwaukee, closed 2 interstates for about 6 hours, ended OK.

But what gets me, is due to the lack of fact's, scanner chatter, other info, the news guys tend to spend a LOT of time speculating to the point of nauseum, just because they need to keep talking and have nothing to say.

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