Hello

[JPGreco]

Hi everyone,
I'm James, from Long Island, NY, and I stumbled across this site when looking at making knives. The immense amount of knowledge about an almost equal amount of topics locked this in as a new favorite site. I'm not new to forums and forum etiquette and for the most part will be lurking around just reading for the most part since I don't have much knowledge to share. I was a Boy Scout and earned my Eagle badge, but my experiences in the outdoors is limited. I am more skilled than most people in this vast suburban landscape, but thats not a big accomplishment.

Just quick info about me:
I'm 29, male, and I've been a carpenter most of my life. As far as my skill, preparedness, and experience, I'm definitely a novice, but I'm pretty smart and can figure most things out (as stated, knife making is what made me stumble upon this site, both out of scrap steel and flint knapping).
I don't spend much time outdoors right now, but would like to get back to it, but with a better knowledge base.

[Sam]

Welcome to the camp.
-Sam

[Sourdough]

A warm welcome from Alaska.

[Camp10]

Welcome to the forum.

[Rick]

Welcome home, James.

[Winnie]

Hello and welcome

[roar-k]

'elo and welcome to the forum.

[hunter63]

Hunter63, Saying, Hey, and Welcome.

[JPGreco]

Glad to be here. I've got a lot to learn and this seems to be the best place to learn it. I definitely prefer to learn from those who have done it than from a book.

[JPGreco]

Oh, and I've been told that my great great grandmother was a Native American. I've been told from the Blackfeet tribe, but I've not confirmed this. I'm definitely interested in learning about that part of my heritage if any of you guys are well versed in Native American tribes, culture, or history.

[SARKY]

Welcome, there are some members near you. Where on the island are you?

[Gilmore]

Welcome to the forum

[JPGreco]

I've seen a couple from NYC in the Bugging out of NYC thread (forgive me if I get terms wrong, it took me forever to figure out BOB... lol). I'm actually out about 60 miles from NYC. I'm right near SUNY Stony Brook for anyone who is familiar with Long Island.

I also spent some time in Pennsylvania for college and lived there for a couple of years. I was right outside of Harrisburg.

And I'm LOVING this site. I've learned an absurd amount of information already, mainly how ill prepared I am for any type of catastrophe. Though really, where I am, the only way out is across the sound. Roughly 20 million makes leaving rather difficult... lol

[SARKY]

Well here is where planning and preperation start. If you have questions feel free to ask. My sister used to live out at Port Jefferson and my great aunt lived in Rockaway about 3 blocks from Rockaway playland and right across the street from the boardwalk. In your case, I would look into buggin' in as your primary and buggin' out as secondary. I'm out on the west coast now in an urban area but at least I have a back door out of here.

[BENESSE]

Welcome from Gotham.

[rwc1969]

Welcome to the site.

[Rick]

James, if you come across a term you don't understand, we have a section on what abbreviations mean.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=8

[crashdive123]

Hello and welcome.

[JPGreco]

Well here is where planning and preperation start. If you have questions feel free to ask. My sister used to live out at Port Jefferson and my great aunt lived in Rockaway about 3 blocks from Rockaway playland and right across the street from the boardwalk. In your case, I would look into buggin' in as your primary and buggin' out as secondary. I'm out on the west coast now in an urban area but at least I have a back door out of here.

Thats my town, small world.

And thanks guys, I'm stilll looking around the site learning the basics of whats going on here. Wish I had something to contribute, but you guys seem to have survival on lock.

[BENESSE]

JPG, you managed to survive for 29 years, so you must know a thing or two.

[JPGreco]

haha, thanks BENESSE. I guess that is true since some of the people I grew up with are no longer with us because of choices they made.

Quick question, since its kind of newbish I'll keep it here. I see people using old saw mill blades for their projects. I have access to regular saw blades from my job. I think they are made of some kind of stainless steel, but I'm no certain. Can anybody enlighten me on what they may be made out of and if they are a good choice for a beginner?
Thanks

[BornthatWay]

Welcome from VA. I do not know much about making knive but I can tell you that there are alot of people here that are excellent crafsmen in knife making and they love to talk to people about their craft.

[Winter]

Bahh, 29 is cake. :) You don't start really going to crap till 30.

Welcome to WSF

[BENESSE]

Bahh, 29 is cake. :) You don't start really going to crap till 30.


Gives me something to look forward to.

[SARKY]

Thats my town, small world.

And thanks guys, I'm stilll looking around the site learning the basics of whats going on here. Wish I had something to contribute, but you guys seem to have survival on lock.

That is actually some nice country out there and plenty of farmland, at least there was 20 years ago. Used to be good fishing too.

[JPGreco]

There still is a fair amount of farmland, though not nearly as much. A large peach farm was sold about 10 years ago and some of the farms out east are now townhouses. There is still pretty good fishing though and because there isn't anywhere you can really hunt around here, the deer population is on the rise.

[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

Hello and Welcome, Care for a cup of coffee?

Never discount what you know. You are a carpenter, and an eagle scout.... so logic tells me you are already handy with wood, and may know more than you realize from your BSA days. You know those Dovetail joints sure make a good way to join things without rope (Like in a shelter perhaps). I did that once many years ago as a kid just to play with that magical Dovetail way of joining stuff. Made a pretty fair little camp table.(well more of a lantern stand than a table.... but you get the idea) If you are like most people, you forget you know something.... until you need it. Then you magically remember. Cool how that works huh? Matter of fact I had forgot I knew or did that, until just now....... It'll all come together, Just keep working at it.

[JPGreco]

Oh, I know what I know and I know that I don't know a lot. I know that I can handle myself relatively well in a short term emergency, but I'm interested in refining some of that knowledge. Case in point, I've never used a dovetail for anything. I was a scout in a very urban area. We didn't have the luxury of intense outdoor skills that some other troops were exposed to. But yes, I am more able than a lot of people I know. One of my favorite things I did to impress my buddies was relight the camp fire the next morning without anything other than tinder (I piled the coals up the night before and the next morning opened up the pile, tossed on some tinder and blew on it till it lit).

I'm really here to sharpen some skills and learn some new ones. Like i've said, what brough me here is knife making. I've been watching a lot of the videos, understand the process, have the tools needed, and believe I can shape one with no problem. What I can't figure out is what kind of steel my saw blades are to determine what kind of tempering I need to do to them. Do I need to heat them and dip them in oil or can I just heat them and cool them. I don't think my saw blades are the same as the ones the tutorials use (they use old saw mill blades which are carbon steel. Mine are Dewalt saw blades that I've read, but not confirmed, is L6 steel). I need to learn the tempering process to have a good end product.

[Rick]

JP, it's refreshing to see someone step forward and just admit the truth. If you know don't about a given subject then, by golly, there's nothing wrong with that. It's a whole lot better to admit lack of knowledge and then ask questions than it is to try and baffle and dazzle. Everyone here will respect you so much more for having said, "look, I don't know but I'm trying to learn" than to try and come on like an expert.

Everyone here has subjects they are weak in. As for me there's a whooooole bunch of 'em. But we're here to teach each other and learn from one another so pull a log up by the fire and kick your boots off.

[JPGreco]

Thanks Rick, I appreciate it.

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