Thanksgiving Gauntlet

[kyratshooter]

Yesterday I spent the morning in the presence of several redneck liberals.

Yesterday evening I spent time in the presence of a liberal lawyer.

It was amazing to me that neither the liberal 8th grade drop-out meth smokers or the highly successful lawyer varried their thought process or backward logic in the slightist.

Both claimed I needed to be paying more taxes to pay off a debt I did not approve of or vote for so they could have more stuff!

[Rick]

Perhaps both are smoking the same stuff.

Regardless, you don't have to look long at the numbers to understand that within the next 10 years taxes will have to increase dramatically. Payroll, SS, a national sales tax, higher fuel taxes, higher taxes on liquor and cigarettes, later eligibility and reduced benefits on SS, and in the end, a smaller government. It's inevitable. The only real question is in timing.

Within the next 10 years we will no longer be able to pay the principle on the public debt and will need to borrow to pay the principle. That's little more than a Ponzi scheme and untenable. Congress, forever slow to react, will probably require that moment in time to take corrective action. If they wait that long then it will be a very painful, long term debt repayment.

Today the numbers are:

Public debt = 3.7 trillion
Income = 1.2 trillion
Deficit = 1.5 million

Your household would not last long with those numbers even if they were in hundreds.

[oldtrap59]

Rick. That looks like what most would call bankruptcy in the real world. But then I think we all know that our polititions don't live in the real world.

Oldtrap

[DOGMAN]

redneck liberals = "Green Neck"

[Rick]

OT = It's terribly close but as long as you are able to pay down the debt then it's obviously not. While many see a road to total economic collapse I see one to a world of high taxes to pay down the public debt.

[crashdive123]

OT = It's terribly close but as long as you are able to pay down the debt then it's obviously not. While many see a road to total economic collapse I see one to a world of high taxes to pay down the public debt.

And hopefully an end to many departments, agencies and programs.

[Rick]

I think that's inevitable as well. There has already been talk about freezing some gov't jobs but that always seems to happen just prior to the elections. Once they get serious, however, I think a smaller government has to happen. According to an article in the New York Times earlier this year the number of federal employees is at 2.15 million. Think about that in terms of a projected 1.4% pay increase in 2011. That's a lot of cash.

If I were employed by a national, state or local government I think I'd want to make certain I was in a core function of that government. Even then it might get dicey.

[Reverend Greg]

Well by all means allow me to ask...From the otter scrubbing hippie point of view,what do you have against the roads or the military or the power grid....I apologize for the tone,I cant think of another way of asking...I not being a rabble rouser.
(G)

[crashdive123]

Well by all means allow me to ask...From the otter scrubbing hippie point of view,what do you have against the roads or the military or the power grid....I apologize for the tone,I cant think of another way of asking...I not being a rabble rouser.
(G)

Nothing at all. What I do have a problem with is the government going beyond their Constitutional mandate (they've been doing it for a long time, and both parties have been doing it) and thereby bankrupting the country. That's basically it in a nutshell.

[DOGMAN]

whats an "otter scrubbing hippie"....

[Rick]

Otters release a hypnotic pheromone when rubbed. Coincidentally, it's something they enjoy immensely. It's a little known fact that hippies in the '60s would get high by rubbing otters. The down side of course is the pheromone is also a sexual attractant to otters and you never know who you'll wake up with. I don't know this by personal experience, mind you, but Cliff Claven explained it to me one time.

[Rick]

I'll relate this back to my post #7.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/sc-dc-1130-obama-freeze-web-20101129,0,3154754.story

If he truly wants to impress me, why not suppress his salary for the remainder of his tenure and turn that money over to the general fund to pay down the debt? Is starting at the top too much to ask? Lead by example?

[Rick]

And here's a good story to go with the freezing of government wages.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-11-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm?csp=hf

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