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Trabitha
11-22-2010, 11:44 AM
Wonder how accurate this is. I know there's no way I could store as much food as this recommends. Well...not and actually have room to LIVE in my home. :noway:
http://lds.about.com/library/bl/faq/blcalculator.htm
Justin Case
11-22-2010, 12:08 PM
Wonder how accurate this is. I know there's no way I could store as much food as this recommends. Well...not and actually have room to LIVE in my home. :noway:
http://lds.about.com/library/bl/faq/blcalculator.htm

Thats a nifty tool,,, :)
BENESSE
11-22-2010, 12:39 PM
Well, I tried it. 2 adults/yr with staggering results.
For example: 80lbs of white sugar. 6lbs brown sugar.
What?!!! We use less than 8lbs (brown) now, why on earth would I stock up 80lbs. I understand that this is only a suggestion and highly subjective but wouldn't it make sense to limit the variety to the healthiest items? Under sugars, why not just stick to honey?
If TSHTF do you really need mayo or corn syrup? And where are sardines on the list?

I can pretty much figure what we need for a year by selecting stuff we eat the most (that would actually keep) and multiplying the servings by 365.
Trabitha
11-22-2010, 12:55 PM
Well, I tried it. 2 adults/yr with staggering results.
For example: 80lbs of white sugar. 6lbs brown sugar.
What?!!! We use less than 8lbs (brown) now, why on earth would I stock up 80lbs. I understand that this is only a suggestion and highly subjective but wouldn't it make sense to limit the variety to the healthiest items? Under sugars, why not just stick to honey?
If TSHTF do you really need mayo or corn syrup? And where are sardines on the list?

I can pretty much figure what we need for a year by selecting stuff we eat the most (that would actually keep) and multiplying the servings by 365.

I feel the exact same way. ;)
crashdive123
11-22-2010, 01:19 PM
While it does sound like a lot (and is), keep in mind that you live off the stores --- completely. No grocery shopping. From the stores you make your own bread, cake, snacks, ........ everything. If you do some canning from your garden - let's say raspberries - you're going to need sugar. For some, they use this calculator because that is their lifestyle.

It is a great reference, but to tailor your food stores to your family - write down everything your family consumes for a period of time (month or quarter) then multiply that list be how many months or quarters you want to build your reserves.
Alaskan Survivalist
11-22-2010, 01:35 PM
Like most things when you do them you learn things. The first thing I learned is about is the flaws in the concept of rotation. If you are always eating the oldest food and you have a years supply all your food is a year old when you eat it. What works better for me is much like how I have worked my freezer over the years. Fill it with meat and fish all summer, eat it all winter till it is almost gone by spring and repeat process. This way I'm only eating old food at the end of the year and have lots of food on hand most of the time. This is how I handle most store bought food. Some things that last much longer I have in large quantity. Noodles and pasta keeps well. So does rice, beans, etc. These foods have been easy and working well stored in 5 gallon buckets that help with the strorage by being able to be stacked. Some things will surprize you how much and how little you eat of it. I was surprized how much sugar we consume and have more peanut butter than I'll ever be able to eat. Then there is another level for food storage longevity and that is freeze dried food in #10 cans. I buy Mountain House when ever I can afford it and has a shelf life of 30 years! It will be there whenever I need it without rotation. It's expensive and only have about 6 month supply of Mountain House at this time but it is growing. Another thing you learn is how easy it is to bury yourself in food if you garden, fish and hunt if you already have several years worth of food sitting on the shelves. For the most part I have stopped those activities and packed up the items that support it like canning, drying and food preservation equipment. I still continue to till my garden and work the soil I just don't plant but when I need it the soil will be very productive. Hunting is not worth the effort but I have all I need should I have too. I still fish but I am so good at that I fill my freezer real fast and give much of it to other people that in turn give me meat they hunt or other food they either grow or gather. If a person does not have the knowledge or experience at these thing I would still recommend they do it to learn but once learned it will come in conflict with food stores. Food storage is a real balancing act that will be a little different for everybody and one size fits all answers are not practical. I can say one thing, if just preparing for a rainy day the freeze dried food is the way to go. Even if you you grow your own food there could be crop failure or personal injury in which case having food on hand will see you through it. Very expensive to get into freeze dried food since you are not eating it now but worth the peace of mind.

One more thing, I have also learned that it is better to have things that can be a meal without other ingredients added. If you run out of one ingrediant the rest becomes useless unless you go to the store. Keep meals simple.
BENESSE
11-22-2010, 02:10 PM
I can say one thing, if just preparing for a rainy day the freeze dried food is the way to go. Very expensive to get into freeze dried food since you are not eating it now but worth the peace of mind.

One more thing, I have also learned that it is better to have things that can be a meal without other ingredients added. If you run out of one ingrediant the rest becomes useless unless you go to the store. Keep meals simple.

That pretty much summarizes my philosophy reinforced by the particulars of where I live. I also prepare for the absolute worst probability of TSHTF with a secondary "rotating" back-up just for challenging times.
Rick
11-22-2010, 02:15 PM
The thing that is sort of left unanswered is what happens if the domicile burns down taking with it the year's worth of stores? I doubt your insurance policy will offer much on an 11 month old canned ham.

And what happens if you just absolutely, positively, have to vamoose? You're going to look ripe for the plucking with 5000 cans of sardines.

Now, if you could just invent a sardine gun....
BENESSE
11-22-2010, 02:24 PM
That's a chance I'm willing to take since I have no other options.
At this point we've only stocked 4 months worth but that's solely because of space constraints.
The BOBs are packed w/3 weeks worth of food, probably longer at 1/2 rations.
And if I keep biting Mr. B's head off every now and then, I know I won't go hungry.
Alaskan Survivalist
11-22-2010, 04:58 PM
The thing that is sort of left unanswered is what happens if the domicile burns down taking with it the year's worth of stores? I doubt your insurance policy will offer much on an 11 month old canned ham.

And what happens if you just absolutely, positively, have to vamoose? You're going to look ripe for the plucking with 5000 cans of sardines.

Now, if you could just invent a sardine gun....

I've made provisions for many what ifs. Like if they don't mind removing corpse from the previous set gun that went off will they be wondering if there's another? Will they skip eating the poisened cake I leave out for them or will I have to poisen a few other things? What if nothing happens? I will have bought my food at last years bulk prices and you do know that food and energy are not included in head in the sand economic inflation figures.
SARKY
11-22-2010, 05:18 PM
You go Miss B!!!! We just got in our latest shipment from Providence Pantry so we are now up to a years worth for 3 people. Most of it is in #10 cans but the bulk stuff is in 6 galllon buckets.Then there is about a months worth of Pro Paks for buggin' out with.
BENESSE
11-22-2010, 05:20 PM
Some people leave out a welcome mat, AS leaves out poisoned cake. The genius of it is you can store that indefinitely just for such an occasion--no fear of spoilage. Don't forget to let the loved ones know ahead of time.
kyratshooter
11-22-2010, 07:18 PM
The thing that is sort of left unanswered is what happens if the domicile burns down taking with it the year's worth of stores? I doubt your insurance policy will offer much on an 11 month old canned ham.

And what happens if you just absolutely, positively, have to vamoose? You're going to look ripe for the plucking with 5000 cans of sardines.

Now, if you could just invent a sardine gun....

So are you proposing the "run and gun, shoot 'em and loot 'em" lifestyle and let the sheeple buy the preps philosophy?

Do you believe in being prepared for emergencies or not, and what is the time frame limit?

A year of food stored is not a real unusual thing in successful rural communities. It was expected on every farm until WW2. We freak out over the thought today. NO ROOM!! too much money, too much investment. Why buy food when we may not live long enough to eat it?

If the house burns down then guess what, the house burned down. Perhaps we should have been living in a tent to avoid the possibility of the house burning down. We no longer buy houses because the insurance might not cover it fully if it is distroyed?

All right, what we need is a company that will sell us food, and insure it will not be stolen or burn in a house fire. It will have an unlimited shelf life and it will please the taste buds of everyone that eats it. It will sustain you at full calorie needs but never make you fat. And, if it is never needed they will buy it back with allowences for inflation after 30 years.

:fishface:

Life is a gamble from day one.
Rick
11-22-2010, 07:35 PM
Here's a cracker. Go back and sit down. I just posed the questions for cryin' out loud.

To answer your question, I have about 3 months preps for my family. That's 12 in total. I have an excellent supply of water and any number of ways to cook, heat the house, a couple of ways to deal with human waste and enough "stuff" to defend or take to the highway and defend. Most of that consists of badminton rackets since all the guns and ammo met that unfortunately canoe accident.

I don't buy into the end of all times philosophy so I don't plan for it. I do plan for natural disasters, however, so I think 3 months is plenty.
kyratshooter
11-22-2010, 10:27 PM
See there, you can't fool me, I knew you had food stashed!!!

"End of the world" senerio is different for everyone. For some, 3 months of empty stores IS the end of the world.
Rick
11-22-2010, 11:48 PM
Did I mention it's mostly Twinkies?
kyratshooter
11-23-2010, 11:39 AM
Twinkies are one entire food group in the prep inventory.

Twinkies
ramin
spam
rice
beans
Trabitha
11-23-2010, 12:47 PM
LOL @ kyratshooter! I'm gonna move closer to a twinkie factory!!!
BENESSE
11-23-2010, 01:30 PM
Let's face it...in a SHTF situation it's more fun to die in a sugar coma than most other options.
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