Opinions on the Bear Grylls Gerber?

[Galong]

If I was considering a knife from a celebrity, I'd go for the Ray Mears knife http://www.raymears.com/Bushcraft_Product/72-Woodlore-Knife/ or my buddy Dave Canerbury's Blind Horse knife, see http://www.blindhorseknives.com/pathfinder.htm These designs and the sturdiness of these knives, at least to me, are more in line with what I need.

Bear Grylles doesn't represent responsible survival skills. He takes way too many chances by jumping off of cliffs, swimming in shark-infested water unnecessarily, running, and basically does Hollywood stuff that a real survival expert simply wouldn't do. Of course, this make for better (more interesting) TV, but it's not real world. Real survival is a lot of sitting around conserving energy. Bear does stay in fancy hotels instead of in the wood, so that's conserving energy I guess. :-)

[woodoak]

I dont worry about names or labels. If it fits the job and does it well. I have a simple rule. If it has many bits to it then there are many bits that can break, fail or become lost. I have found over the years that things are only as good as the job its made for. I have one very good knife that i can do almost anything with. Anything else has to be carried. and becomes a luxury. A folding saw will do the same job as a machete. It can cut a tree down. so could a axe, and a small fire. Its about what you want to carry and what you can use. Taking tools into the woods is not survival, its camping. Survival is doing the same jobs without the tools to hand because of a disaster. The real truth is not many ppl carry their survival kit with them every day be it shopping and seeing friends. but will take it when going for a walk in the woods. Walking in the woods is not a survival situation either. Tools are just tools. survival (real survival) is the mind and knowlege. It weighs 0 and cant be left behind.

[crashdive123]

Hey ther woodoak - how about carrying your way over to the Introduction section and telling us a bit about yourself. Thanks.

[Rick]

I'm not sure I understand. You talk about a tool being best for what it's designed for then talk about one tool doing everything. Have you ever tried to use a folding saw in the jungle? I think a machete would do a much better job. One knife can't do it all no more than one tool can fix everything on a car. I do agree that there is a minimum that you can get by with but that will change depending on your environment.

[Sarge47]

If I was considering a knife from a celebrity, I'd go for the Ray Mears knife http://www.raymears.com/Bushcraft_Product/72-Woodlore-Knife/ or my buddy Dave Canerbury's Blind Horse knife, see http://www.blindhorseknives.com/pathfinder.htm These designs and the sturdiness of these knives, at least to me, are more in line with what I need.

Bear Grylles doesn't represent responsible survival skills. He takes way too many chances by jumping off of cliffs, swimming in shark-infested water unnecessarily, running, and basically does Hollywood stuff that a real survival expert simply wouldn't do. Of course, this make for better (more interesting) TV, but it's not real world. Real survival is a lot of sitting around conserving energy. Bear does stay in fancy hotels instead of in the wood, so that's conserving energy I guess. :-)

1st, when you buy any of the Bear Grylls knife you're NOT buying from a celebrity, but from GERBER who pays a specified amount to a celebrity for the right to put his name on their product.

2nd, it always amuses me to see how celebrities most often go with very high priced knives...probably so they can get more $$$ from their percentage. Even Bear tried it with the Bailey Knife Co.'s SL-4. However, the two you linked are way more than I would ever shell out. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[hunter63]

Well, that settles it.....Gotta buy me one....set it on a log, sit down and let it take care of....Then brag about how good I am.

[Richard68]

We'll I'm glad I read this post and seen the review, was looking at the knife, but wasn't sure. I am now, regardless of the good things being said, I will not purchase this product, will go with a little more expensive knife and save me some of the problems.

[Sarge47]

We'll I'm glad I read this post and seen the review, was looking at the knife, but wasn't sure. I am now, regardless of the good things being said, I will not purchase this product, will go with a little more expensive knife and save me some of the problems.
I do not recommend this knife as a primary survival knife. I bought mine for a whole other reason. My primary "go-to" knife is even cheaper...it's a Mora 2000 Survival knife that you can find for about $30 at "Safe-Zone. (Rick's Signature.) Of course I have about 6 different knives. :cool2:

[glockcop]

Why all the Bear bashing? No the knife is not the greatest in the world but there sure are worse choices. I personally will stick to the cutlery I already have but the BG looks desent enough. As far as Bear personally, I will admit that he does some wreckless things on the show but IT'S A SHOW, people. You know...entertainment. I believe there is a disclaimer in the beginning of the show warning of the dangers. If people try to emulate him and screw up it's their own fault. This guy was a Brit special forces, went through Foreign Legion training (and lived--a feat in itself), and has probably forgotten more about living off the map than most folks here will ever learn. No, I'm not a tie dyed fan of BG but jeez lay off the guy will ya. like AS said in a previous post, I'd like to see some of the folks with such negative opinions of BG ''TRY'' to keep up with him. Now that would be entertainment.

[skip hall]

A knife is good - if it works for you when you need it to. It could be called anything, made by anyone or no one. I make my own now from kits from SMKW. Paracord or molded material - as long as you've got the right knife for the job. Incidentally, doesn't mean you have to carry a box full of knives with you - find one you like for most of your tasks and then buy or make another for backup. Just my opinion and my knives have saved my life in more than one way many times. GBless ............

[Survival Guy 10]

http://www.smkw.com/webapp/eCommerce/prodlist.jsp?Mode=Brand&Brand=49&CatalogName=&PriceStart=&PriceEnd=&Feature=&Cat=&SearchText=Bear+grylls&filter=false&range=1&list=12&order=SoldQuantity&Submit.x=9&Submit.y=6

The BG Prodegy is not alone! They are multiplying.

Keep in mind that Gerber sold out long ago. The present company is Fiskers and all these BG products are made in China for a company based in Finland.

As far as "everyone else knows what it means", we must take into consideration that Bear is as much a pop icon today as Batman was in the 70s or Davy Crockett was in the 50s.

There are people that watch his reruns and buy the DVD series. Most are couch potatoes that have never been in the woods for a night in their lives, but they buy stuff....

Oh my gosh its like a massive horde of mutiplying zombies

[letslearntogether47]

Oh my gosh its like a massive horde of mutiplying zombies

It's amazing what you can find.lol

http://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Survival-Guide-Complete-Protection/dp/1400049628/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308163063&sr=8-1

[hunter63]

It's amazing what you can find.lol

http://www.amazon.com/Zombie-Survival-Guide-Complete-Protection/dp/1400049628/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308163063&sr=8-1


Why stop there be REALLY prepared: Zombie Kit
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?15418-OOH-OOH-Be-Prepared-for-Zombies-Zombie-preparedness-kit

[letslearntogether47]

Why stop there be REALLY prepared: Zombie Kit
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?15418-OOH-OOH-Be-Prepared-for-Zombies-Zombie-preparedness-kit

Wow,that's got to be a pretty expensive kit.

[La couette]

Bear Grylls is looser...........fake.............looser.......... ........and all the stock he sold is bad !!!!!!!

[scottmphoto]

While I prefer Survivorman over Man vs Wild, I do like watching the show. Now, as far as the knife goes, I do have the BG folding sheath knife from Gerber. I have long liked Gerber products and so far, have no complaints with this one. I didn't buy it because of BG's name on it. I bought it because I needed a new knife and I liked the feel of it. This one keeps a sharp edge (so far) and I just like the way the handle fits my hand. It's a decent size, it's lite-weight and is made by Gerber (even if they did sell out).

[brklyncamper]

Hi all, just wanted to get some expertise opinions on this Bear Grylls knife I'm considering purchasing. It's made of stainless steel and has a hodgepodge of accessories. I've heard other outdoorsmen scoff at Bear Grylls products because they're not what "real" outdoorsmen use. I guess these products have a bit of a cheeseball reputation. Luckily, I'm just an amateur.:canadian: Anyway, is it worth me spending the $60?

[pete lynch]

Which one? There are several knives with his name on it. If it's a gerber it could well be a regular gerber knife all dressed up with the BG stuff. You can get the same non-BG modified blade a lot cheaper and spend the difference on better accessories.

[Canadian-guerilla]

Bear is a " hollywood showman " outdoorsman
and anything with his name on it is just for marketing and $$$

imo

Les Stroud uses a Buck 119, check out a price for the Buck

Buck started making knives in 1941(?)

history vs hollywood

[Sarge47]

Hi all, just wanted to get some expertise opinions on this Bear Grylls knife I'm considering purchasing. It's made of stainless steel and has a hodgepodge of accessories. I've heard other outdoorsmen scoff at Bear Grylls products because they're not what "real" outdoorsmen use. I guess these products have a bit of a cheeseball reputation. Luckily, I'm just an amateur.:canadian: Anyway, is it worth me spending the $60?Is this a joke? The knife has dropped in price considerably, Amazon has them for about $40. I bought two of them. Here's the thread you should have researched 1st.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?13964-Opinions-on-the-Bear-Grylls-Gerber&highlight=Bear+Grylls+Survival+Knife
:batman:

[Bushman]

The Bear Grylls belt knife is good value for the money...............

it appears to be a spin-off from the Gerber Prodigy (with different coloured mouldings on the grip)

it looks a bit bit 'glitzy' with the fluro grips etc, but that will help the less able among survivalists to find the damn thing if they drop it ! :)

a mate got one online for $45 US and appears to me to be identical to the prodigy with a few 'extras'

considering that a hell of a lot of our serving Soldiers have bought Gerber LMF's & Prodigys for their belt order, I'd say go for it !!

I bought a prodigy some weeks back to give to a young 2 Cav Trooper up North......he was most impressed !! Reckons the S/F all have them too !! So I guess that counts for something ??

Harry

[Sparky93]

I like gerber, but I refuse to own anything with Bear Grylls name on it. I'd go with the prodigy, there about the same price but without the big BG on it. But thats just my two cents IMO gerber makes good knifes, I have a gerber suspension multi tool and I like it. It seems to hold and edge well plus my favorite thing is every tool locks once folded out and the pliers are spring assisted.

[Sarge47]

I like gerber, but I refuse to own anything with Bear Grylls name on it. I'd go with the prodigy, there about the same price but without the big BG on it. But thats just my two cents IMO gerber makes good knifes, I have a gerber suspension multi tool and I like it. It seems to hold and edge well plus my favorite thing is every tool locks once folded out and the pliers are spring assisted.

The Prodigy, while a great quality knife, does NOT include the fire steal and whistle. I think the addition of those two items outweigh BG's name on the knife. I'm not superstitious, his name on the knife is of no consequence to me. :cool2:

[tsitenha]

Along with the "Bear Grills "knife they offer a Parang, has anyone experience with this particular bushknife from Gerber?

[Mad Cow]

Hm. For the $40.00 you could get Mora or two a fire steel, and goodies. Any way, My youngest Son has that knife and it has held up just fine.I had concerns about the 3/4 tang, but the Moras have held up, and his BG Gerber has held up. I say go for it if that's what you want.

[Phaedrus]

Hm. For the $40.00 you could get Mora or two a fire steel, and goodies. Any way, My youngest Son has that knife and it has held up just fine.I had concerns about the 3/4 tang, but the Moras have held up, and his BG Gerber has held up. I say go for it if that's what you want.

This would be a better approach. I saw a youtube video from Equipped2Endure where they reported users having the pommel bust off under use. Sounds like some QC problems for at least the first production runs. But beyond that it doesn't strike me as a very good design for survival or bushcraft. I don't like having serrations right on the portion of the blade that you'd want to use to do fine work like making feather sticks or shaving wood thinly for tinder. And overall it's just gimmicky, like it was designed to look "cool" instead of to be practical.

A Mora and a firesteel would be better. For about $42 I'm really impressed by the SOG Field Pup. You'll want the nylon-sheathed version. It's really nice! It has a hidden tang that runs all the way thru the knife and the design is excellent. The sheath has a plastic liner and a pouch that will accommodate a small multi-tool like a Leatherman Squirt or a box of matches. And it has a very nice strap on the back that works with PALS/MOLLE panels. While out-of-the-box sharpness isn't a big deal to me I will say mine is one of the sharpest knives of it's type OOtB that I've ever seen; I'd say it rivals a Mora.

[ktomes_340]

I just got one and I like it pretty much. The only downside is that the striker spot on the spine of the blade doesn't throw sparks well. Other than that :thumbup1:

[gryffynklm]

The rod probably has a black coating on it. You need to get past the coating to get sparks.

[Chris]

Of course no one can swim like him. He wears a life jacket. There is a video out there in one of his river scenes showing the jacket hidden underneath his clothing. He does his stunts in national parks 100 feet from the road. You can also find videos showing that. There is even I think an Oprah segment where he admitted to faking it.

Sure, the guy is in good shape, he takes his clothes off enough for us all to know that, but his advice is often dangerous, misleading, and could get you killed. He does his antics to create senationalist TV, but it doesn't mean it is good advice, just good TV.

[Mad Cow]

I like ole Les too but seriously, you really think he's on his own? with a sat phone and a rescue crew over the hill! he has a good show with good info but his skill set doesn't really compare to bear Grylls.
Bear's creds include things like service in the SAS which that alone carries quite a bit of weight with me, climbing Everest along with many other difficult
ascents and on and on.
Les' skill set is a bit more pedestrian in comparison, more like a camping trip trip without chow than survival, still interesting but hardly comparable.

As a matter of fact, he does have help when he is out. You can see as much in one of his episodes ware he slides the serrated sheep's foot blade of a Gerber or leather men multi-tool into his hand. The truth is, all the TV survival guys have access to civilization. It would be stupid for them not to. I dont hold that against them. I do think that they all have a degree of stupidity though, like cutting and burning there arms and so on. They are slaves to the rating game. If Bear did not jump cliff to cliff, and Dave didn't cut and burn him self, no one would watch. But this business of one being more pure then the other is just nonsense.

[Rick]

The whole Dave cuts and burns segment is about the most misguided piece of TV I've ever seen. That is waaaaay beyond a "hold my beer and watch this" moment. But, as Chip says, Dave is feeling much better now.

[Mad Cow]

The whole Dave cuts and burns segment is about the most misguided piece of TV I've ever seen. That is waaaaay beyond a "hold my beer and watch this" moment. But, as Chip says, Dave is feeling much better now.

Hope so. Those Mora's like the way arms taste. I know from experience.

[Sarge47]

As a matter of fact, he does have help when he is out. You can see as much in one of his episodes ware he slides the serrated sheep's foot blade of a Gerber or leather men multi-tool into his hand. The truth is, all the TV survival guys have access to civilization. It would be stupid for them not to. I dont hold that against them. I do think that they all have a degree of stupidity though, like cutting and burning there arms and so on. They are slaves to the rating game. If Bear did not jump cliff to cliff, and Dave didn't cut and burn him self, no one would watch. But this business of one being more pure then the other is just nonsense.

Of course they have safety precautions, can you spell lawsuit, guys? That's not why I watch the shows, well, all except Man vs. Wild, His "survival techniques" are only appropriate for young mountain climbers in tip-top shape. Not that I'm not in shape; as someone used to post in their signature on here, "round is a shape." However, I don't watch these shows To see all the weird crap people can do, or even to fantasize about doing them myself. The reasons are several:

1,) I love the outdoors and there's something about a shelter, weather a tent, lean-to, wiki-up, or what have you, and a nice camp-fire out in the woods that always takes my breath away!

2,) I like seeing "skills in action!" It's one thing to read about making a fire with something other than a match or a lighter, quite another to actually see somebody doing it!

3.) I love the scenery! Pine trees, mountains, even the desert is really cool to watch somebody do outdoors stuff in!

4.) I also like seeing how a piece of gear might actually work in the outdoors. I still remember Les using the Magnesium block and Cody using his drill-bow set.

5.) I have fun trying to identify what brand of knife or other equipment they are using or what type/brand of clothing they might be wearing.

6.) What's even more fun is to sit there and think: "Wow! Did they ever miss the boat there! They should have_____________ or done this___________________!

7.) Every so often I actually learn something as well, like the time Dave C. demonstrated how to light a fire by using the headlight off of a car, now that was pretty cool!

For the record, i do believe that the "arm-cutting" scene had merit, and to prove it I'm going to ask Rick to cut his arm so I can burn the crap out of it with black powder...Rick...Rick? Where'd ya go Homey? http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/images/smilies/whistling.gif

Anyway, I always take something away from these shows like: STAY THE CRAP OUT OF THAT COUNTRY! Or TAKE PLENTY OF WATER SO I DON'T HAVE TO DRINK MY OWN URINE! And HANG ONTO MY GEAR SO I DON'T HAVE TO RELY ON DOING ALL THAT NUTTY STUFF! :whistling: :creepy:

[Mad Cow]

All good points. I also enjoy them for the same reasons, but saw no merit in Dave demonstrating the arm thing on the show. After all, not many folks have black powder when they're in the woods. I also try the shelter building, and fire making techniques. Don't get me wrong, all the folks who do survival shows have there place. They just need to be kept in the proper context.

[jerwhite]

I'm not reading 15 pages to see if anyone else made this point or not. Sorry. I have owned this knife for six months now and have taken it on a handful of trips. The whistle sucks. After the first trip the whistle broke in half so I decided to modify. Added a better whistle. One with a small compass and tied it on with 550 parachute cord. In my opinion the knife is for survival, not everyday use. So it should be saved for such, hence the stone. The stone is not really a stone. I could be wrong but I don't think this would really sharpen the knife back to perfection. It would help to straighten an edge though from a chip or the such. The sheath is even a little cheap but it does the job and has multiple attachment points( I agree with the velcro though it hasn't been an issue yet). However the knife in my opinion is very nice. Comfortable, durable, keeps an edge. I used it to bang through some small tinder with a log, I used the bottom to bang tent stakes down, and also a beach umbrella when we went beach camping. Cut up a couple of jugs to use for trash pickup. That's about it. Oh one last thing, it's way to difficult to get out of the sheath.

[woodoak]

Sorry its been a long time in replying. Life gets in the way of all the fun bits. If i was going to the jungle then oh yes its a machete without doubt. I live in the UK so my knife does all i need to live, shelter, fire, water and food. One tool box doesnt fit every enviroment, but if you know which enviroment your going into then you would take the right tools (well one would hope anyways)

[Thaddius Bickerton]

If I bought one I would skip the serrations and get one without it.

to be honest there are a few others I like better in that price range, Then again I'm an old guy with pretty set in my mind blades I like.

I will try others and if I can't afford one I'll beat it out of metal for myself. Almost every blade has some merit, and whoever made it either thought is was purdy art, or had a good use. Case in point are those tracker knifes, I never much cared for them, but some people swear they are the bees knees.

I have used about every grind and such that is reasonable to try.

I have found that most knifes that are in the 50 dollar range are going to give 50 dollar service. Which is usually more than good enough if you buy one that hits your wants and needs.

I like the becker bk2 but the becker bk9 it the one knife I think I will be buying anytime soon. (haven't owned a becker yet, but used quite a few and the bk 9 just cranks my tractor)

I recently saw a knife that I think was called SOG north west knife. It seems to be in the similar price range and has a straight edge, and lovely looking grip / handle. I have heard a lot of brags on that knife also and I believe it is about the same size as the bear g one.

I have no real love for Bear, but I feel sorry for him, cause I think he was selling out a lot to the tv people inorder to make money. That kind of makes me wonder if he sold out to gerber on the knife.

Once ya loose creditability, it is real hard to get it back.

My Daddy used to say that you could live honest all your life, but all it took was one dishonorable act, and you lost it all and might never get respect back. I think on that a lot when I'm tempted to short cut stuff.

Anyway to end up the ramble, I would say you will get gerber performance out of it, if you want a serrated gerber knife then It is gonna please you.

If you are still fishing for that good blade then I'll add that carbon steel, straight edge, spear point, 1/8 thick 4 - 6 inch blade flat, or a convex grind in a friction fit sheath with a dangler is the style I find a great all around blade. (think I just pretty much described a kephart blade huh? whoda thunk it?)

But I have made and enjoyed just about every style I can think of , and currently am playing around with a stock old hickory 7 inch butcher knife and having a blast just making feather sticks, chopping and throwing it in the hobo stove and brewing up some tea or coffee. This weekend, I'm taking the 10 and 12 year old boys out with me and we are gonna put it through its week end paces.

If a knife can survive a week end with them using it then it is pretty near indestructible. I ought to rent them out as toy testers and any toy that survives them gets a seal of approval that promises that other kids aint' gonna bust it in a hundred years. :-) on that too, but lot of truth there also.

Thad.

P.S. I hope you get the knife if you like it or take a second to rethink and get one you like even better. Telling a feller to get or not get a knife is like picking a wife for him , a REAL BAD IDEA.

T.

[Winter]

Sorry its been a long time in replying. Life gets in the way of all the fun bits. If i was going to the jungle then oh yes its a machete without doubt. I live in the UK so my knife does all i need to live, shelter, fire, water and food. One tool box doesnt fit every enviroment, but if you know which enviroment your going into then you would take the right tools (well one would hope anyways)

Your environment is rainy hardwoods. Or, the East coast of the USA.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

I like it. I don't care who's name is on it. It has a whistle, sharpener, fire steel, hammer and blade.

And it'll mow yer lawn an' balance yer checkbook... won't it? :innocent:

My father taught me to "buy the gun (or knife), NOT the story." The fact that the product line carries Bear Gryll's name means no more than it would if it carried YOUR name, or mine.

I agree with Rick -- generally, Gerber sells pretty good knives. They're not nearly as good as the ones they sold before being acquired by Fiskars, but still...

-- Nighteyes

[Daniel Nighteyes]

Sorry its been a long time in replying. Life gets in the way of all the fun bits. If i was going to the jungle then oh yes its a machete without doubt.


Your environment is rainy hardwoods. Or, the East coast of the USA.

If we're talking machetes and other bush-type blades, there are any number of non-jungle environments where they are extremely useful. In the United States, many/most of them are either east of, or just a bit west of, the Mississippi River. There are several exceptions, of course. The critical factor, IMO, is the presence and thickness of any undergrowth (technically, "understory.") In some places it's ALL understory.

Whenever I can, I carry a 6-inch fixed blade knife with me into the outdoors. When that isn't feasible -- either realistically or politically -- I carry one or two smaller folding knives. (The smallest one is a two-bladed Smith & Wesson combination -- knife and "straight razor", that a friend gave me for Christmas one year.)

[K4Outdoors]

First post here...

I came to this forum hoping to gain some knowledge and network with some good people. This is the first thread I entered because I just picked up the BG knife. I have to say I am surprised at the attitude in here....

As for man vs wild its an entertaining show that accomplishes its task. Bear obviously knows what he's doing but the show is made to entertain. Dont like it? Get over it.

as for the knife, why banish the knife cuz it has BG stamped on it? Dollar for dollar this is one of the best deals online. After Gerber fixed the pommel issue the knife stands up to all the tests. I agree with having a fine edge over serrations and now that Gerber offers the fine edge thats what I picked up.

I dont understand why anyone would hate on the BG when its identical to the LMF series accept that the pommel is much more usable in a survival situation than a glass breaker.

Thats my take, and for all that are hating on these guys who make shows, if Discovery called you up, you would make a show too, and you would have a sat. phone and a crew and you would have haters on the internet talking smack about you. So deal with it.

Dont mean to stir **** up, but I give all the benefit of the doubt and keep an open mind. Anyway, glad to be here.

[crashdive123]

What an interesting first post. On the one hand you say
I have to say I am surprised at the attitude in hereand then on the other hand you say
Dont like it? Get over it.

Not trying to stir asterisks either.....just an observation.

[K4Outdoors]

What an interesting first post. On the one hand you say and then on the other hand you say

Not trying to stir asterisks either.....just an observation.

Ya, got fired up, didn't mean to imply attitude on my end, I just dont see any point in hating on tv personalities.


On another point Gerber has a limited Bear Grylls survival knife that is all black.. I can't find it anywhere online but a guy had one in a Youtube video. Any body else heard of this.

[crashdive123]

Don't let words from people you don't know on an internet forum get you fired up. As far as the BG product line - here are my thoughts. I'll preface them with - I own, and have owned several Gerber products and have been happy with them. I do not own any of the BG line. IMO they were marked up quite a bit because of the name. If they can get that price, then more power to them. I know a few people that have purchased some of the BG line. I realize this is anecdotal, but every one of them had issues. Broken pomels, broken handles, chipped blades. None were abused - after all, they are advertised as the ultimate survival tools. Gerber has stood behind their products and replaced them in each case. The owners (that I know) are reluctant to "rely" on them now though.

Why does it seem that these lines are more "fragile" than others from the same manufacturer? Who knows? New plant? Rush to meet demand?

If somebody buys one and likes it - more power to them.

Opinions on knives will vary dramatically.

[Rick]

Well, talking smack about us aside, welcome home.

[K4Outdoors]

IMO they were marked up quite a bit because of the name.

the knife retails for 69 bucks and I got the fine edge version for 48 on amazon. Quite reasonable I thought. Ill be putting it through my own tests and report back.

Thanks for the welcomes.. No smack intended, just defending my man Bear.. lol

[AR7]

"Quite reasonable": I agree...

"Dollar for dollar this is one of the best deals online": I don't agree. A lot of knives are better for the price IMO :argue:

[Sarge47]

First post here...

I came to this forum hoping to gain some knowledge and network with some good people. This is the first thread I entered because I just picked up the BG knife. I have to say I am surprised at the attitude in here....

As for man vs wild its an entertaining show that accomplishes its task. Bear obviously knows what he's doing but the show is made to entertain. Dont like it? Get over it.

as for the knife, why banish the knife cuz it has BG stamped on it? Dollar for dollar this is one of the best deals online. After Gerber fixed the pommel issue the knife stands up to all the tests. I agree with having a fine edge over serrations and now that Gerber offers the fine edge thats what I picked up.

I dont understand why anyone would hate on the BG when its identical to the LMF series accept that the pommel is much more usable in a survival situation than a glass breaker.

Thats my take, and for all that are hating on these guys who make shows, if Discovery called you up, you would make a show too, and you would have a sat. phone and a crew and you would have haters on the internet talking smack about you. So deal with it.

Dont mean to stir **** up, but I give all the benefit of the doubt and keep an open mind. Anyway, glad to be here.

I bought the knife, so sue me. I have no use for Bear Grylls, so sue me again! Any idiot that encourages people to drink their own urine, among other dangerous crap deserves to lose their gig on TV...oh...wait...he's been fired...that's right! :yes:

[Daniel Nighteyes]

Thats my take, and for all that are hating on these guys who make shows...

Welcome, K4Outdoors. I think I understand where you're coming from, so I hope you'll try to do the same with us. You see, as a newcomer to these boards you couldn't know about the rather extensive discussions that have resulted in the current attitudes toward Bear Grylls. BTW, most of those who post here are veteran outdoorsmen with many years of experience, and most can disagree without being disagreeable.

I don't claim to speak for anyone but me. I dislike Bear Grylls because, on his shows, I have seen him do things that NO ONE should do -- PARTICULARLY in a survival situation. Worse, I have seen him do this time and time again. I believe he's sending a wrong and very dangerous message to watchers of his shows, particularly if they have little previous experience.

On the other hand, I like Les Stroud's shows (Survivorman, etc.), those done by Dave Canterbury and Cody Lundeen (Dual Survival), and those done by Mykel Hawke and Ruth England (Man, Woman, Wild). Why? Their shows are much more realistic and instructive than Bear Grylls' shows. Even better, they're not nearly as likely to get an inexperienced person killed.
very easy on the eye... :angel: ]

Though I don't claim to speak for them, I think others on these boards may see this situation pretty much the way I do.

Again, welcome.

-- Nighteyes

[Rick]

Yeah, Ruth is purdy. I agree.

[K4Outdoors]

Thanks for the welcomes, I hope to network here.

[Rick]

We do have some threads on net working. Different kinds of nets, too. Oh, wait. You meant....never mind.

[Daniel Nighteyes]

We do have some threads on net working. Different kinds of nets, too. Oh, wait. You meant....never mind.

Good fer you, Rick! I simply KNEW there was some reason why I liked ya -- now I know why.

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laterevent (http://laterevent.ru)latrinesergeant (http://latrinesergeant.ru)layabout (http://layabout.ru)leadcoating (http://leadcoating.ru)leadingfirm (http://leadingfirm.ru)learningcurve (http://learningcurve.ru)leaveword (http://leaveword.ru)machinesensible (http://machinesensible.ru)magneticequator (http://magneticequator.ru)magnetotelluricfield (http://magnetotelluricfield.ru)mailinghouse (http://mailinghouse.ru)majorconcern (http://majorconcern.ru)mammasdarling (http://mammasdarling.ru)managerialstaff (http://managerialstaff.ru)manipulatinghand (http://manipulatinghand.ru)
manualchoke (http://manualchoke.ru)medinfobooks (http://medinfobooks.ru)mp3lists (http://mp3lists.ru)nameresolution (http://nameresolution.ru)naphtheneseries (http://naphtheneseries.ru)narrowmouthed (http://narrowmouthed.ru)nationalcensus (http://nationalcensus.ru)naturalfunctor (http://naturalfunctor.ru)navelseed (http://navelseed.ru)neatplaster (http://neatplaster.ru)necroticcaries (http://necroticcaries.ru)negativefibration (http://negativefibration.ru)neighbouringrights (http://neighbouringrights.ru)objectmodule (http://objectmodule.ru)observationballoon (http://observationballoon.ru)
obstructivepatent (http://obstructivepatent.ru)oceanmining (http://oceanmining.ru)octupolephonon (http://octupolephonon.ru)offlinesystem (http://offlinesystem.ru)offsetholder (http://offsetholder.ru)olibanumresinoid (http://olibanumresinoid.ru)onesticket (http://onesticket.ru)packedspheres (http://packedspheres.ru)pagingterminal (http://pagingterminal.ru)palatinebones (http://palatinebones.ru)palmberry (http://palmberry.ru)papercoating (http://papercoating.ru)paraconvexgroup (http://paraconvexgroup.ru)parasolmonoplane (http://parasolmonoplane.ru)parkingbrake (http://parkingbrake.ru)
partfamily (http://partfamily.ru)partialmajorant (http://partialmajorant.ru)quadrupleworm (http://quadrupleworm.ru)qualitybooster (http://qualitybooster.ru)quasimoney (http://quasimoney.ru)quenchedspark (http://quenchedspark.ru)quodrecuperet (http://quodrecuperet.ru)rabbetledge (http://rabbetledge.ru)radialchaser (http://radialchaser.ru)radiationestimator (http://radiationestimator.ru)railwaybridge (http://railwaybridge.ru)randomcoloration (http://randomcoloration.ru)rapidgrowth (http://rapidgrowth.ru)rattlesnakemaster (http://rattlesnakemaster.ru)reachthroughregion (http://reachthroughregion.ru)
readingmagnifier (http://readingmagnifier.ru)rearchain (http://rearchain.ru)recessioncone (http://recessioncone.ru)recordedassignment (http://recordedassignment.ru)rectifiersubstation (http://rectifiersubstation.ru)redemptionvalue (http://redemptionvalue.ru)reducingflange (http://reducingflange.ru)referenceantigen (http://referenceantigen.ru)regeneratedprotein (http://regeneratedprotein.ru)reinvestmentplan (http://reinvestmentplan.ru)safedrilling (http://safedrilling.ru)sagprofile (http://sagprofile.ru)salestypelease (http://salestypelease.ru)samplinginterval (http://samplinginterval.ru)satellitehydrology (http://satellitehydrology.ru)
scarcecommodity (http://scarcecommodity.ru)scrapermat (http://scrapermat.ru)screwingunit (http://screwingunit.ru)seawaterpump (http://seawaterpump.ru)secondaryblock (http://secondaryblock.ru)secularclergy (http://secularclergy.ru)seismicefficiency (http://seismicefficiency.ru)selectivediffuser (http://selectivediffuser.ru)semiasphalticflux (http://semiasphalticflux.ru)semifinishmachining (http://semifinishmachining.ru)spicetrade (http://spicetrade.ru)spysale (http://spysale.ru)stungun (http://stungun.ru)tacticaldiameter (http://tacticaldiameter.ru)tailstockcenter (http://tailstockcenter.ru)
tamecurve (http://tamecurve.ru)tapecorrection (http://tapecorrection.ru)tappingchuck (http://tappingchuck.ru)taskreasoning (http://taskreasoning.ru)technicalgrade (http://technicalgrade.ru)telangiectaticlipoma (http://telangiectaticlipoma.ru)telescopicdamper (http://telescopicdamper.ru)temperateclimate (http://temperateclimate.ru)temperedmeasure (http://temperedmeasure.ru)tenementbuilding (http://tenementbuilding.ru)tuchkas (http://tuchkas.ru/)ultramaficrock (http://ultramaficrock.ru)ultraviolettesting (http://ultraviolettesting.ru)