camp fuel/white gas storage

[steelnwool]

Hi,

I'm talking about the stuff you put in coleman stoves with the pressure pump on the red tank.

I want to lug some extra fuel, but not the 2L metal can you buy it in. Question is, are those alumimum water bottles with plastic covers safe? [No worries, I'll make it MORE than obvious that this is a fuel storage container only..]

Or should I just head to my outdoors store to by an actual 1L/.5L fuel container?

Thanks.

[tsitenha]

Water bottles are just that for water/potable liquids. Use proper designated bottles, aluminum still but made for fuels, such as "Sigg"
They are a different animal altogether.

[kyratshooter]

What is the problem with the origional can?

I would not use a water bottle, chances are the cap or liner would be comprimised. I also find that most of the commercial "gas cans" leak at the cap. If you find a good secure one it should work for you.

There are makeshift containers you can press into service. I often take extra fuel in a "recycled" one pint denatured alcahol can. They are slim, flat and pack well. Since I often just use denatured alcahol and a tuna can as my entire cook system it gives me a safe container that the fuel was shipped in. I have no hesitation in putting a bit of gas in the emptied can for transport. I have never had a problem.

My primary commercial stove is a Coleman Expidition. It was engineered with a tank that will hold enough for a weekend. I seldom carry more fuel than what is in the tank for a weekend of hiking.

[steelnwool]

Water bottles are just that for water/potable liquids. Use proper designated bottles, aluminum still but made for fuels, such as "Sigg"
They are a different animal altogether.

In what ways?

[steelnwool]

@kyratshooter - original can is big. Thats the main deal. This is for car camping, an extra fuel vessel to go in the chuckbox.

[RichJ]

They now sell Coleman fuel in plastic 1 litter bottles at WalMart for about $5. That's not very cost effective considering you can get a gallon tin can for less than $10 anywhere. But the 1 litter bottles will store the fuel with no problem, they don't leak, and it already comes filled with fuel. I got one just to toss in my camping box to store a little extra fuel in. The tin can just wasn't practical. You can always pay $17 for an aluminum MSR bottle but I like the $5 plastic option better.

[steelnwool]

Either way, one could buy the 5$ and keep reflling it with the tin can method once its empty once. I do that with the pre-measured oil for my chain saw. Buy the little ones once, re fill em with the big ones.

[Rick]

If you are carrying something as large as a stove then I'm guessing you are car camping. Surely you aren't backpacking with a standard stove. If you are car camping then why not take the larger can? Just curious.

There are tons of aluminum fuel containers on the market. Coleman makes a 22 oz one. I think Primus makes one, MSR and there are tons of generic aluminum bottles.

Personally, I'd shy aware from plastic bottles for fuel only because it could easily be damaged. I've carried plastic alcohol bottles like everyone else but I try to be safe in my old age.

Just about any outdoor store will carry the aluminum fuel bottles.

[steelnwool]

This is definatly car camping. But i'm building a chuckbox and want to make wise uses of space is all.

[roar-k]

They have aluminum bottles you can use for fuel, but they are distinctly for carrying fuel. i do not know how the differ, just that there are differences between.

check out rei, campmor, sierra trading post, or others sites and you can find them fairly cheap and reuse them. Also Gander Mountain and Bass Pro shops carry them if you have a store around you.

Also make sure you get the nozzle that goes on the fuel can for easier pouring of fuel.

[crashdive123]

I have a few metal bottles designed for fuel. The one that is used most often is my Whisperlite set-up. http://www.amazon.com/MSR-WhisperLite-Stove/dp/B000YOIZRW Any store that specializes in camping gear should have them - just the bottles I mean. I suppose on-line ordering is an option as well.

[finallyME]

The seals are different. A water bottle only needs to seal water. So, the o-rings are pretty general. White-gas is corrosive and needs different seals. Just buy the smaller metal bottles they sell at camping stores.
http://www.rei.com/product/784303

White-gas and alcohol are totally different animals. You need to store white gas properly. Either leave it in the original container, or get one that is designed for white-gas.

[steelnwool]

Yeah, was mostly concerned about the seals. The seal/cap it self on the cans seems pretty lackluster too tho, and its only plastic. That being said they probably don't plan on you storing the can on its side.

[finallyME]

Plastic is a very general term. Some plastics can handle the corrosive nature of white-gas. Some can't. If the container is designed to hold fuel, then you know it is good. If the container isn't designed to hold fuel, then you either have to know all the materials it is made of to determine, or test and see. Testing involves chance. With fuel, the farther from chance the better.

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