Semi Permanent Camps.

[klickitat]

Does anyone on here have a semi permanent camp set up? What I am talking about is like a shelter with short side walls and roof frame for a tarp roof. I like the idea of having something that I can go back to year after year for hunting camp, that would not take too much time to set up each year and that would be a little more comfortable than a tent.

I have some ideas, but have not built anything like this and wanted to see what others have done. AS post sort of brought this to mind and am curious.

Post pictures it you got em.

[Alaskan Survivalist]

I have problems with Bears tearing things up when I'm not around. They will even dig holes in the side of cabin to get in. I use wall tents on a pole frame and when I leave roll front, back and sides up so they can come and go as they please without destroying everything. Pole caches are good for anything you don't want them to get at. It is not just a matter of smell for them. Sometimes I think they just want to destroy your stuff. I had a pile of glass windows destroyed by bears for no apparent reason.

[crashdive123]

AS - not living around bears, I don't know the answer to this - could it be the scent left behind that causes the bears to "investigate" things?

[Rick]

I just wonder if he saw his own reflection in the glass.

[Alaskan Survivalist]

Sometimes I think it is scent like if the chew up the seat of your snowmachine, sometimes I think just curiousity and then other times I think marking territory. Sometimes animals just go mad and with no phycological help the only relief they get is destroying your camp. I've seen mosquitoes drive moose to stomp and kick thier way through the woods. They do wierd stuff not always easy to explain.

[hunter63]

Well, bears might be a problem in some areas, been even seeing a few around here, (The Place, SW WI.),
By far it's not the big animals that will generally cause you the most problems.

Ground hogs under the shed, mice (lots of mice, in everything), possums (seems they couldn't stand to see a wood pile standing, borrow under it and tip it over), raccoons, even a few skunks, just to add some essence to the mix.

Even squirrels and wood peckers can also be a problem

All of these caused damage in anything left behind, for any period of time.

A cabin frame work, with tenting, seems to be the answer as long as you can seal up the canvas in something varmint proof.

Not leaving any type of food there, unless it's really sealed up, is a no brain-er, but it's easy to leave the box of oatmeal in the cupboard, 'cause you are planning to be back real soon

Hunting camp up on Grand Mesa, Colorado, shelter was a military GP medium, cover was kept in a military shipping container. as well as cots and such.

Sorry don't have any pic's, didn't have a digital camera at the time, and wasn't in to taking pic's much.

Guys that had the camp, were either current military or recently retired, and seem to have an endless supply of gear.

Those little diesel drip pot belly stoves, do not throw out much heat, BTW.

I too would be intrested into seeing what others have done, good thread.
Have always been intrested in "trappers cabins, line shacks, hunting camps, logging camps, in general, etc.

[DOGMAN]

There is an awesome Hunting outfitter camp, near the paradise guard station in the Selway Wilderness area that is just what your talking about...google it and see if there are any photos.

The structures are large canvas wall tents on platforms with metal roofs/awnings over them, and corrugated metal side walls that are like 3 feet tall

[DOGMAN]

here are some pics...its a little different than I remember...but still the same idea

http://www.selwayadventures.com/images/gallery/picture0006.jpg

http://www.selwayadventures.com/images/gallery/IMGP0291.jpg

[Justin Case]

Why the canvas roof ? Easier to knock snow off ?

[abe]

There are alot of semi-permanent dwellings in my area. Everything from small ragged out campers to carports with tarps around them. Small shelters with tarps on the roofs are quite common. We have so many area's where is accessible its first come first serve. Most pitch tents and rough it out, but some drag campers along for the luxery.

[DOGMAN]

Why the canvas roof ? Easier to knock snow off ?

Actually, I was just told it was due to permitting rules by the USFS Ranger District...the guys permits read, "no permanent structures....dwellings must be canvas roofed tents or some other such material"

This was him making the most durable, "Semi-permanent" camp structure he could while sticking with a canvas roof regulation. ha ha...

[Rick]

I thought that might be it, too. We have a similar tax rule around here. If a modular home is attached to a block foundation then it's considered permanent. If it is not attached then it's considered a mobile home. Big difference on the taxes. You can see the difference if the installation is done correctly but it's there.

Do you know if those have roof trusses supporting the canvas?

[DOGMAN]

Do you know if those have roof trusses supporting the canvas?

http://www.selwayadventures.com/images/gallery/picture0010.jpg

[hunter63]

Looks like trusses under the canvas, couple of our scout camps were like this, in "Tent city".

Kinda goofy rules sometimes, but those look like they would be much better than tent.

[Rick]

Got ya! Thanks! We had a Boy Scout retreat that was a full tent on a flat wooden floor. I like these a lot better I think.

[klickitat]

look at all that natural light coming through the canvass

[hunter63]

http://www.selwayadventures.com/images/gallery/picture0010.jpg

Yeah, I can almost see a short sheeted bed, thanks for the memories!

[klickitat]

Here is a picture of a camp that I found cruising the net. I am thinking something like this with the side walls a little taller and solid would make a great semi permanent camp.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Bledsoe-longhunter-camp-tn1.jpg

[wareagle69]

have built several on the property just to test different styles and durability, one of the teppes is going on 4 yrs now.
off property i have some also on crown land, off the beaten trail and in thick bush that i don't forsee anyone going into and have a buried 5 gallon bucket close by, these are my emergency shelters, its always nice knowing i've got a way out close by, sometimes feels like cheating

[sh4d0wm4573ri7]

A few of our shelters http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/sh4d0wm4573ri7/crafts/1122091252b.jpghttp://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/sh4d0wm4573ri7/crafts/033.jpghttp://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/sh4d0wm4573ri7/crafts/angelasheltr.jpghttp://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/sh4d0wm4573ri7/crafts/010-3.jpghttp://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee202/sh4d0wm4573ri7/crafts/034.jpg

[sh4d0wm4573ri7]

they are nice require minimal touch up but still we prefer just a tarp

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keepagoodoffing.ru (http://keepagoodoffing.ru)keepsmthinhand.ru (http://keepsmthinhand.ru)kentishglory.ru (http://kentishglory.ru)kerbweight.ru (http://kerbweight.ru)kerrrotation.ru (http://kerrrotation.ru)keymanassurance.ru (http://keymanassurance.ru)keyserum.ru (http://keyserum.ru)kickplate.ru (http://kickplate.ru)killthefattedcalf.ru (http://killthefattedcalf.ru)kilowattsecond.ru (http://kilowattsecond.ru)kingweakfish.ru (http://kingweakfish.ru)kinozones.ru (http://kinozones.ru)kleinbottle.ru (http://kleinbottle.ru)kneejoint.ru (http://kneejoint.ru)knifesethouse.ru (http://knifesethouse.ru)
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lambdatransition.ru (http://lambdatransition.ru)laminatedmaterial.ru (http://laminatedmaterial.ru)lammasshoot.ru (http://lammasshoot.ru)lamphouse.ru (http://lamphouse.ru)lancecorporal.ru (http://lancecorporal.ru)lancingdie.ru (http://lancingdie.ru)landingdoor.ru (http://landingdoor.ru)landmarksensor.ru (http://landmarksensor.ru)landreform.ru (http://landreform.ru)landuseratio.ru (http://landuseratio.ru)languagelaboratory.ru (http://languagelaboratory.ru)largeheart.ru (http://largeheart.ru)lasercalibration.ru (http://lasercalibration.ru)laserlens.ru (http://laserlens.ru)laserpulse.ru (http://laserpulse.ru)

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