View Full Version : Can GARLIC be toxic.....if consumed in excess..? Too the eater not his friends....???
Sourdough
09-15-2010, 12:11 PM
I loath taking medicine. And in an effort to get off Blood Pressure Medicine, I am eating 1/2 cup to 2/3 cup of chopped garlic per day. Question: Is there any toxicity to eating lots of garlic......? Could it drive a persons blood pressure dangerously low......? Note: This is a serious question.
grrlscout
09-15-2010, 12:15 PM
Hmm... I dunno. I searched on drugs.com and this is what it said:
http://www.drugs.com/mtm/garlic.html
However, they are talking about garlic in pill form. I don't know much of a difference fresh would make.
crashdive123
09-15-2010, 12:27 PM
If you google
can garlic lower blood pressure you get several sources that appear pretty good. One source I read said that it can also act as a blood thinner, much like aspirin.
letslearntogether47
09-15-2010, 12:38 PM
Do you also know that celery and also grapefruit juice will lower HBP?
http://www.highbloodpressureinfo.org/benefit-of-celery.html
Sourdough
09-15-2010, 12:42 PM
http://www.rense.com/general76/Dpi.htm This does NOT sound good.............
crashdive123
09-15-2010, 01:01 PM
http://www.rense.com/general76/Dpi.htm This does NOT sound good.............
I read that one too, but could not find any other similar references. Until I can find out more about that group, I'd question the voracity of their claims.
Sourdough
09-15-2010, 01:24 PM
I read that one too, but could not find any other similar references. Until I can find out more about that group, I'd question the voracity of their claims.
You go into a fine restaurant and order a Roasted Garlic, and it is the size of a half of a apple. I would think if it is that dangerous, people would be warned not to eat garlic and drive or operate machinery.
I love roasted garlic and have made it often. However, I got sick as a dog eating one time. I have no idea what the cause was, perhaps the garlic had some contamination but never-the-less I don't do that anymore.
Here's a report from the University of Maryland Medical Center that lists the recommended daily medicinal dose. It appears the benefits outweigh the risks if taken in moderation.
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/garlic-000245.htm
rwc1969
09-16-2010, 02:18 AM
Grapefruit juice counteracts the effects of certain blood pressure meds if taken within a short period of one another.
Personally, I would eat good foods and avoid the meds altogether.
If you eat or consume anything in excess it is not good for you IMO. Moderation is key.
Personally, I would eat good foods and avoid the meds altogether.
Just remember it's a lot more than just food. Genetics and environment play key roles as well. Sometimes the meds are required no matter what you eat.
Winnie
09-16-2010, 07:23 AM
Personally Sourdough, I'd go back and see your doctor and maybe get an appointment with a nutritionist who can help you devise a proper eating plan to help you manage your condition. I seem to recall you mentioning the loss of a friend in Klickitats thread because he didn't take his meds. We really don't want to lose you over the same thing.:flowers:
Sourdough - I know you left home at an early age but think about what happened to your parents and their siblings. If your folks were like mine a doctor was seen as a last resort and they had to be at death's door.
If they died of a heart attack or stroke then it's quite possible that undetected high blood pressure was the root cause and you having it is just a genetic gift from them. Nothing you do short of medication will lower it. Doing all the right things (eat right, exercise, watch your weight, etc) helps of course but once you've done those things then only your scripts will keep you in check.
Discuss your concerns with your doctor as Winnie said. He/She can help you assess if the problem is genetic, lifestyle or a combo of both.
well, good advice on the meds, etc, but what if there NO meds available? As in a SHTF scenario. This is what I approach everything from "What if there were no_____, what would I do?
having said that there are other things like garlic that help. Having said that, I myself have been trying to get off BP meds, and susbstituting it with plants. SO far, no luck, the BP goes way too high and I have to get back on the meds to bring it down.
So, as with most herbal cures I think it needs to be a combo of things, so if anyone has a very good formula I would really like to hear it as well.
Some other plants that claim to help with high BP are:
ciinamon, dandelions, cornsilk, cucumber, apples, wood sorrell, lemon grass, passionflower, plantain, grapes and more.
I perosnally have not found the right combo yet, as i said, but would love to hear from someone who has.
Sometimes I think meds deliberately get your body addicted to the cure of them so that you have to keep buying them!
what if there [are] NO meds available?
That's why you try to establish a 30 day reserve on your meds.
Winnie
09-18-2010, 09:48 AM
well, good advice on the meds, etc, but what if there NO meds available? As in a SHTF scenario. This is what I approach everything from "What if there were no_____, what would I do?
having said that there are other things like garlic that help. Having said that, I myself have been trying to get off BP meds, and susbstituting it with plants. SO far, no luck, the BP goes way too high and I have to get back on the meds to bring it down.
So, as with most herbal cures I think it needs to be a combo of things, so if anyone has a very good formula I would really like to hear it as well.
Some other plants that claim to help with high BP are:
ciinamon, dandelions, cornsilk, cucumber, apples, wood sorrell, lemon grass, passionflower, plantain, grapes and more.
I perosnally have not found the right combo yet, as i said, but would love to hear from someone who has.
I mean no offence, but why on earth would one want to intentionally put oneself in harms way like that? There is no SHTF therefore you have meds. Research by all means, but personally I'll stay on my medication thanks.
I mean no offence, but why on earth would one want to intentionally put oneself in harms way like that? There is no SHTF therefore you have meds. Research by all means, but personally I'll stay on my medication thanks.
I would not want to personally put myself in harms way, but what I do want to do is to try to manage any health probs with nature, the way our grandparents had to do it, and the way native americnas have always done it.
While it's true, modern meds have done some pretty wonderous things in wiping out a lot of diseases like childhood measles, my point is that we are a prescription happy society and there are--- IMHO way too many pills.
My mom comes to mind, she takes a pill for this or that, then THAT pill messes up something else, and she has to take a pill to correct the mess up.
When it's all said and done, she is on a boatload of DAILY pills just to manage it all. Even then sometimes, she still has new problems that come up.
I am just trying not to go down that same road.
That's why you try to establish a 30 day reserve on your meds.
With all due respect, 30 days wouldnt cut it if there were a real serious disaster and meds from the pharmacy would not be available, so I like to educate myself for alternatives in the case of longterm situations.
All due respect taken. If you have a problem serious enough to extend beyond 30 days then meds will probably be the least of your worries.
beetlejuicex3
09-19-2010, 10:10 AM
Some posts here about staying off meds to begin with. That is not an option for some, no matter how well they eat or exercise.
Garlic is shown to mildly reduce blood sugar levels in diabetics, too.
Everyone needs to be taking fish oil or omega-3 supplements. Skip it if says omega-6 though.
Herbs and food can be abused just like drugs, for example 1 aspirin a day helps prevent heart attack and strokes (or so they have advertised), so some think that if one aspirin is good the whole bottle is better and end up in the hospital or dead.
NightShade
09-19-2010, 11:16 AM
As a disclaimer : I am not a doctor, scientist, or nutrionalist......
But, I believe near everything can be deadly if not for MODERATION...
Pharmaceuticals are tested extensively to ensure their quality and safety. That doesn't, of course, mean that problems don't arise or drugs aren't pulled from the market. Quite the contrary. However, considering the overall number of prescription drugs available the number of removed drugs is really pretty low.
Natural herbs and plants do not undergo any testing so their efficacy and safety is an unknown. Yet, folks think because they are "natural" they are somehow preferable to prescription drugs.
I don't disagree that natural products can be of benefit. My concern is matching a product to an ailment and knowing the proper dosage. That's generally based on little more than hearsay and results are anecdotal at best.
I also recognize the placebo effect can work in folks and if that's the case then more power to you. I've always said I don't care if it's a sugar pill as long as it works.
Just please be very cautious when self medicating with natural remedies. Don't overlook the fact that those remedies could be contra-indicated if you are also using prescription meds. At the very least discuss your ideas with your doctor so they are on board if your prescriptions don't seem to be working. If they don't know you are doing something on the side they may make a wrong decision that could seriously compromise your health.
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