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grizzlyadams365
09-12-2010, 11:07 PM
Hello survival enthusiasts,
Im am a 21 y/o college student in the upstate of South Carolina. A few buddies and I recently decided to embark on a survival journey of sorts. We are all lifelong hunters, experienced woodsmen, and one is an eagle scout. The reason I joined this forum is to get planning tips, and also some knowledge from experienced people that have done similar things in the past and are more knowledgeable than we are about it. We want to make it as primitive as possible but also have the bare "essentials" if you will, if we get into an emergency situation as this trip is for fun and to prepare us further if we ever need these skills in an actual disaster or what have you. There are a few basic things that i need help with:

1. A place we can be dropped off in an uninhabited "wilderness" in SC, NC, TN, or GA. With means of finding our way back to a civilization or be "rescued" by civilians.

2. We know basic necessities such as a cutting tool, ruck sack, rope, and incendiary materials, etc..but I ask for additional input on other things people have found handy.

3. Ways to prepare adequately for the adventure..

4. Should any firearms i.e. pistol, rifle, or shotgun be brought with us?

Thanks for your time and wisdom, anything will help us at this point!

doug1980
09-12-2010, 11:14 PM
Not another one. :shuriken:

grizzlyadams365
09-12-2010, 11:34 PM
haha yeah i know theres probably a billion of these posts everyday, but honestly we have ample knowledge of survival knowing wildlife, edibles, extensive forestry, zoology, and dendrology knowledge, just not on the level of surviving in extreme conditions. I know you may think im some punk *** kid that doesnt know jack about this stuff, and I can understand that. anything you can help me with would be great. and thanks for your service doug!

Winter
09-12-2010, 11:38 PM
I wouldn't do it as you describe.

Just find a spot and camp in it for a week. Actually putting yourself far out in the bush and walking out is dangerous.

Unless you are dropped off by a helicopter, you will be on a road and should just stay on the road.

Sourdough
09-12-2010, 11:44 PM
Sorry I can't help, as I have never done anything like that. That said, Welcome to the forum. I guess I would wonder why you want to do this........? As a wright of passage into manhood, or kicks & giggles. Why......?

You say you guy's have been hunting your whole life.......??? Really you started hunting at birth.....? or at age (4) four....? I have too say I am impressed as I was not allowed to buy a firearm till I was 9 years old. And even then I was not allowed to go afield alone till I was 10 years old.

grizzlyadams365
09-12-2010, 11:44 PM
thats a good point winter, and we've made a trip like that, but it was just not challenging enough. i understand the danger, and don't want to be in any serious danger since its only for a fun and learning based adventure, but i want to have some sort of objective or scenario if you will that we have to accomplish. if you have any ideas based on that, thatd be great!

grizzlyadams365
09-12-2010, 11:49 PM
thanks for the welcome sourdough! id have to say its more for kicks and giggles as you put it. its been an idea for a while, but just has never taken shape. i come from a family of hunters, and woodsmen from pennsylvania, virginia, and tennessee. and it goes unsaid that we weren't hunting at age 1, but i went on my first hunt at age 3 and hunted alone at age 9. which is just common sense based, but i had my first gun at age 7. thanks for replying even if you cant help!

your_comforting_company
09-12-2010, 11:50 PM
I agree. I would find a remote place.. not uninhabited. You do not to be dropped off in some godforsaken wilderness to practice "skills". you can do that in your back yard.
You can't train for terrain in the backyard however, so..

Exercise. Train for walking the terrain carrying a load. Endurance will be key in getting out.
Diet. Try to train your body and mind to be efficient with calories.

The list of "handy" items is really long.. Think about what you want to carry. Take the things you think you'll need and when you're at the campground, see what items you need to add, or you can do without. Part of the fun is customizing our own bags!

If you are legal age, and have the required permits and liscenses, I would recommend carrying at least a sidearm. Not sure of your location, but humans are not on top of the food chain out there...

Have fun and be safe.

Winter
09-12-2010, 11:51 PM
That's a hard proposition.

Your scenario would be the determining factor in what you have with you.

Sourdough
09-12-2010, 11:53 PM
haha yeah i know theres probably a billion of these posts everyday, but honestly we have ample knowledge of survival knowing wildlife, edibles, extensive forestry, zoology, and dendrology knowledge, just not on the level of surviving in extreme conditions. I know you may think im some punk *** kid that doesnt know jack about this stuff, and I can understand that. anything you can help me with would be great. and thanks for your service doug!

Yes, We do get a lot of this type of inquire. I am all for you doing it safely. However that you would even question your skill'set enough to ask for advise is cause for apprehension. Why not do three days, then do five days, then do a week.....? You will learn each step of the way. After 41 years in the wilderness I am still learning every day. Note: I am 64 years old. I mean really what is the rush........? I say go for it.....but, do it in small steps.

grizzlyadams365
09-13-2010, 12:01 AM
yeah it was planned to be about a 3-4 day trip, nothing long term at all. and its not that im questioning my skills i was simply just curious about better ways to do things or just tips in general. and theres no real rush, i just want to do things when im younger in age to gain experience for later on in life. and its just something thats a part of my life on such a large level that i believe its important to test your skills and sharpen them as i go through life. i appreciate your input sourdough, im taking everything into account.

Sourdough
09-13-2010, 12:06 AM
I want to be clear.........I am all for you doing it, just do it smartly. I think it is sad that young men like you with a passion and love for the wilderness, don't have access to old farts that can guide your learning.

grizzlyadams365
09-13-2010, 12:12 AM
yeah i agree that safety is the number one priority for sure! and i agree, most old farts around here either don't give a crap if we like the woods or not, or they are super protective of the knowledge they have. like theyre going to be around forever to protect it or something like that. i wish i had people besides my family that would pass on what they know! "pay it forward, and it'll always come back to you."

Pocomoonskyeyes3
09-13-2010, 12:40 AM
I am assuming that you are referring to this Grizzly Adams.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_%22Grizzly%22_Adams And not THIS grizzly Adams.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Haggerty There's a WORLD of difference between the 2.
Uwharrie Nat'l forest in N.C is where Special Forces does that type of training... at least years ago they did.
I think you might want to carry one of those little transponder things that send out an emergency call if you try it. Anything else would be a potential case of suicide by stupidity...No offense meant. But best be prepared for ANY eventuality.

pgvoutdoors
09-13-2010, 12:40 AM
If you spent the next six months searching the forum for topics your interested in you would have a boat load of information.

I recommend that you take it slow and you'll find that there are many people here that will be willing to help you. Many members don't like a person to jump into a strenuous and dangerous situation for the sake of training.

Your not a child but a young man willing to learn and that is appreciated here. We don't want to see skills lost over time any more than you. Have patience with the members.

pgvoutdoors
09-13-2010, 12:47 AM
PS, We all have stepped on our "you-know-what" a time or two doing something we best left alone.

Rick
09-13-2010, 07:37 AM
1. A place we can be dropped off in an uninhabited "wilderness" in SC, NC, TN, or GA. With means of finding our way back to a civilization or be "rescued" by civilians.

Those civilians are putting their lives at risk every time they go out on a search and rescue mission. It also costs money to field helicopters, vehicles and boats. You've received some good advice. Spend some time researching what you want to do.

crashdive123
09-13-2010, 07:47 AM
Hey there Grizzlyadams365 - welcome to the forum. Since you and your friends have some experience in the woods, and are only planning a short trip that you just want to be away from other people, I'd say ... Figure out what things you want to learn in advance of the trip. Gain what knowledge you can about those things, even practicing a little along the way. Take what you would normally take on any other camping trip, but only use it if you need to use it. Here's an example - if you want to spend your nights in a debris hut, have a tent or tarp as a back-up. If you want to live off the land (you said you were knowledgeable in wild edibles), have some Mountain House food as a back-up. If you want to make fire with a bow drill, have a firesteel and Bic lighter as a back-up. Only use the back-ups if you find yourself in a tough spot.

I'm not sure what communications gear, if any you are planning to carry. Make sure that you leave an itinerary with somebody you trust so that if something does happen, they know your route and when you were due to check in with them.

Welcome to the forum. Good luck with your adventure. If you have specific questions, ask away.

letslearntogether47
09-13-2010, 07:49 AM
I am assuming that you are referring to this Grizzly Adams.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_%22Grizzly%22_Adams

This Grizzly Adams grave site is quite close to where I live.I've stopped in and visited a couple times.If you didn't know where to look you'd walk right by it.

billdawg
09-13-2010, 09:16 AM
You don't have to go deep into teh wilderness, and try and find your way out. Go into the woods, leaving your whereabouts, and return time with a responsible person, and just go inthere and use your survival skills to live.
Trust me, 4 days of eating minimal food, and building your own shelter, fire, etc, will be a nice learning experience.
Knowing how to sleep on a rock, is different than wanting to sleep on a rock. Comfort and safety should always be what you striver for.
Good luck

Alaskan Survivalist
09-13-2010, 09:37 AM
If you want to learn something important learn to always be prepared. It will become as natural as putting your pants on in the morning. Go out as prepared as you can and you will find plenty of hardship, equipment failure and doing without things you are used to. The experience you have should be your guide to gaining more. You are watching to much television.

DOGMAN
09-13-2010, 09:51 AM
Since you guys are all "lifelong hunters, experienced woodsmen, and one is an eagle scout"...I'd suggest going to New York City and being dropped off in the heart of Harlem or some such place- somewhere radically out of your element- and see how you do there for a week with no money, no place to stay, no way out, and no cell phones. Think of the concept of Wilderness metaphorically and really thrust yourself in a experiential learning situation. Since you don't live in the wilderness- In all reality if you do ever end up in a survival situation it will be more urban in nature, so why not prepare for reality as opposed to living out some fantasy? Just a thought....

trax
09-13-2010, 12:17 PM
figure out how long you're going for, what kind of weather you can expect and what terrain you're going over. That should determine what you need to bring. Pick a start point, and end point and tell someone who's not going what they are, and if you're all that experienced as you say...go. Have fun, take pictures and share them with us.

Old GI
09-13-2010, 01:00 PM
I am assuming that you are referring to this Grizzly Adams.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_%22Grizzly%22_Adams And not THIS grizzly Adams.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Haggerty There's a WORLD of difference between the 2.
Uwharrie Nat'l forest in N.C is where Special Forces does that type of training... at least years ago they did.
I think you might want to carry one of those little transponder things that send out an emergency call if you try it. Anything else would be a potential case of suicide by stupidity...No offense meant. But best be prepared for ANY eventuality.

Awww, Robin Sage ('78-1). I recommend visiting your local recruiter. I've heard they have some wonderful survival training and opportunities.:thumbup:

grizzlyadams365
09-13-2010, 10:08 PM
i appreciate everyones input on the topic. ive gotten a lot of good tips and suggestions, through posts on here and just searching other threads and things like that and have rearranged my plans somewhat accordingly. we will definitely take pictures, so i look forward to sharing them with all of yall! and DOGMAN, I like your thought about the urban survival, im from the woods but not "wilderness" if you will, so survival in the "urban wilderness" sounds like itd be crazy. maybe for the next trip, who knows! thank yall

Sarge47
09-13-2010, 10:24 PM
Welcome to the Wolf-Pack; I'll refrain from commenting as my quote from Albert Einstein in my sig. says it all. Lots of luck! :punk:

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