What is everyone going to do with their pets?

[beetlejuicex3]

Are they valuable, a resource drag, a mobile meal, or all 3?

[Batch]

The dog is family to my wife and kids.

[2dumb2kwit]

Call me an old softy, but for better or worse, mine is a member of the family.

[Sourdough]

The "Thundering Herd of Attack Geese" are both the first line of defense........and the last meal.

[tsitenha]

My human family takes precedent, dog is a fine meal, cat is just simply delicious.

[Winnie]

I'm afraid I have to agree with 2D. Bobcat is safe, he is the WSF mascot after all;)


And the girls would be safe as long as they kept laying eggs.

[hunter63]

Fur kids are part of the family, and go where I go............sometimes at great expense and extra effort.

[NCO]

Don't have a pet. But will get a dog at some point. A hunting dog at that. So, it'll family and will pull it's own weight. Dogs tend to be good at guarding the camp at nights and with right breed and training they can significantly increase the food available.

[doug1980]

Part of the family for sure.

http://i356.photobucket.com/albums/oo3/speedracer1565/Random/SANY0647-1.jpg

[oldsoldier]

Our two cats will be on their own, the two dogs are family. Since we don't have kids we have the pets. We are already prepared for them as well. We have 10 days worth of food packed in our BOV and 9-10 months supplies in our stores. Alsong with pet meds and a very well stocked pet first aid kit. So they'll go with us to the BOL

[Camp10]

This is a tough one for me. A few years ago it wouldnt have been a debate at all but my hound is 12 now and doesnt move like she did. I'm afraid she wouldnt handle anything very difficult anymore. She still wont let me go to camp without her but she doesnt enjoy it nearly as much as she did.

[Justin Case]

My Dog Is also my family ! wherever I go, he goes, I even told Amtrak that he was a service dog and took him on a train ride once ;)

[roar-k]

My pups are family and will remain so. They are my wife's babies and will remain so even after we have kids.

I believe they can pull their own and provide comfort when it's needed. Especially guarding the homestead. For instance we went camping the other week and had our pups in our tent with us with the covers down on the door and windows. Probably around midnight I hear some rustling near our tent, but just sit there listening as to not alarm the wife. All of a sudden the bigger pup stands up and starts a low growl and then I hear more rustling and all of a sudden he charges the door full steam ahead barking and going crazy. I hear something run off into the woods along with the wife screaming. This happens 2-3 more times minus the charging and wife screaming.

[Rick]

Two raccoons talking......

OMG!
What's the matter with you, Rory?
I almost got eaten by a screaming dog!
That's horrible!

[jc1234]

I told my dog that there was a possibility I might try to eat him in a worst case scenario...he didnt take it well:

http://greatwhitepaws.com/data/storage/attachments/597c6fc6d0f908516984e8fd3e5f002f.jpg

In all seriousness, my dog is more useful to me in any survival situation than most any human would be. I would die from starvation before Id kill him for food. He survived in the wild mostly on his own before I got him, Im fairly sure I would be eating his left overs before I starved though. Along with being more of a survivalist than I could ever hope to become, he carries my gear and is trained to trust and help me in many tasks that apply to survival. He is my anchor, he can go places and get things that I cannot, and he can help me up in areas that I could not go alone. I can also keep me warmer at night then a tent and a sleeping bag alone could. He will defend me even if it means dying in the process.

An example of him carrying my stuff. He has also pulled me out of a few precarious situations. One not more than a few days ago.
http://greatwhitepaws.com/data/storage/attachments/a0304fac1742f08f59ceed9cabd93aad.jpg

[pgvoutdoors]

Good picture JC....

[pgvoutdoors]

I asked my cat "Pferby" what he thought about sacrificing himself to feed the family?

[jc1234]

I asked my cat "Pferby" what he thought about sacrificing himself to feed the family?

Funny I asked one of our cats the same thing and he had a similarly unamused response:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs307.snc4/40689_144654832232581_100000641943829_264480_53934 69_n.jpg

[crashdive123]

Cats are funny like that.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Forum%20Fun/catsrigfhthook.gif

[finallyME]

My rabbits will feed my family. My fish and turtles will probably feed my dog. After that, I am sure my dog can feed herself, if I let her off the leash.

[Aurelius95]

Two raccoons talking......

OMG!
What's the matter with you, Rory?
I almost got eaten by a screaming dog!
That's horrible!

Rory the Raccoon has a nice ring to it.

My dog is 7 lbs, so she's easy to feed, and would make a lousy meal in and of herself. I'd take her with us.

[letslearntogether47]

Old movie,but anybody remember,"A boy and his Dog" staring Don Johnson?
The end of the movie takes an odd twist.

[BLEUXDOG]

Old movie,but anybody remember,"A boy and his Dog" staring Don Johnson?
The end of the movie takes an odd twist.

The book was better...

[Winter]

I would bury Tank. he is not food, he is my friend.

[DOGMAN]

I think your all delusional and overly sentimental. Look at the history of arctic exploration. Theres no question what most of us would do- no matter what we think while we're warm and comfortable sitting in front of our computers. My dogs are assets and traveling companions- they haul me and my gear around, and some of them could/would be great for hunting etc... But, when food got scarce...you better believe I'll be eating the weaker ones who were losing their value as workers.
If your not mentally prepared to kill and eat a dog- you really need to analyze what survival means to you....what do you think will become of your dog after you die of starvation?...Lastly, you know what dogs eat when they are trapped in a house after their owner dies, and before they are found by neighbors?
Its a dog eat dog world friends....cold, harsh, reality

[Beo]

Yeah my dog Sunny is my best friend, she's getting old but she's family. Now in a very worst case scenario... no food anywhere survival would probably kick in and I'd eat her as a very last resort.
But food is always around us no matter where you are.
Beo,

[Justin Case]

I think your all delusional and overly sentimental. Look at the history of arctic exploration. Theres no question what most of us would do- no matter what we think while we're warm and comfortable sitting in front of our computers. My dogs are assets and traveling companions- they haul me and my gear around, and some of them could/would be great for hunting etc... But, when food got scarce...you better believe I'll be eating the weaker ones who were losing their value as workers.
If your not mentally prepared to kill and eat a dog- you really need to analyze what survival means to you....what do you think will become of your dog after you die of starvation?...Lastly, you know what dogs eat when they are trapped in a house after their owner dies, and before they are found by neighbors?
Its a dog eat dog world friends....cold, harsh, reality

I would probably eat one of YOUR dogs too ,, But I wouldn't think of harming my dog, and would take the life of anyone who tried, Same as any other family member. Cold harsh reality,,

[roar-k]

I think your all delusional and overly sentimental. Look at the history of arctic exploration. Theres no question what most of us would do- no matter what we think while we're warm and comfortable sitting in front of our computers. My dogs are assets and traveling companions- they haul me and my gear around, and some of them could/would be great for hunting etc... But, when food got scarce...you better believe I'll be eating the weaker ones who were losing their value as workers.
If your not mentally prepared to kill and eat a dog- you really need to analyze what survival means to you....what do you think will become of your dog after you die of starvation?...Lastly, you know what dogs eat when they are trapped in a house after their owner dies, and before they are found by neighbors?
Its a dog eat dog world friends....cold, harsh, reality

We never said we weren't prepared to kill and eat a dog; we just said we didn't want to eat our dog(s). I have no qualms if it's wild or a nuisance.

Both of my dogs have packs to carry gear, even the blind one. But the thing is I have 6 months food for the dogs if it's needed.

*Disclaimer: Getting ready to try and store the supply of dog food. Will see how it goes.

[tsitenha]

+1 DOGMAN, survival is just that

3 days...no food my wife would eat that can of sardines that she couldn't even smell...hopefully it wouldn't be to late to help.
Timming is paramount,
in survival the first meal you miss is hard to catch up on....

[DOGMAN]

I would probably eat one of YOUR dogs too ,, But I wouldn't think of harming my dog, and would take the life of anyone who tried, Same as any other family member. Cold harsh reality,,

So, you would kill someone who was trying to harm your dog....
I wonder what the justice system would think of that? ( I don't know). Obviously, if someone was trying to kill your child you could kill them in "self-defense"...but I wonder what the ruling would be on a dog.

By the way...I would eat a family member as well. I view dogs and people in the same manner as elk, deer etc...we are all just meat. However, I wouldn't kill a person and eat them...I would feast on their corpse after they died though.

[Justin Case]

So, you would kill someone who was trying to harm your dog....
I wonder what the justice system would think of that? ( I don't know). Obviously, if someone was trying to kill your child you could kill them in "self-defense"...but I wonder what the ruling would be on a dog.

By the way...I would eat a family member as well. I view dogs and people in the same manner as elk, deer etc...we are all just meat. However, I wouldn't kill a person and eat them...I would feast on their corpse after they died though.

Yes I would, The justice system would frown on it I'm sure, but like I said, to me, My dog is family, I would protect him the same way as i would family,

BTW, This brings to mind a question,,

How would a Vegetarian deal with such a situation ? Eat meat or starve,, hmmm :ohno:

[Rick]

A dog is considered personal property in most states. No different than your car or your BBQ grill. It would depend on the circumstances and the laws of your state as to whether you could legally kill someone trying to harm your dog.

Someone coming on your property to do harm to your dog is no different than them coming on your property to steal your vehicle.

Someone doing harm to your dog because it's running loose is an entirely different set of circumstances.

[DOGMAN]

Someone doing harm to your dog because it's running loose is an entirely different set of circumstances.

In Montana, loose dogs chasing livestock or game animals can be shot on-sight.... There are letters to the editor of the local newspapers daily about people complaining someone shot their dog while it was loose, and nobody got in trouble. Its an expected thing if you live in the more rural parts of the state- if your dog is running loose it will be killed. Cows and elk trump dogs here in what holds value.

[Justin Case]

I wouldn't allow my dog to run loose in the neighborhood no more than I would my child.. There are many levels to protecting ,, I agree, Nobody should be expected to allow a dog to kill their animals.

[DOGMAN]

Yes I would, The justice system would frown on it I'm sure, but like I said, to me, My dog is family, I would protect him the same way as i would family

So, you would kill a person and go to prison, because they were going to harm your dog? You'll take life behind bars and a regular snuggle session with a couple of big dudes in the slammer to protect your dog? I've met a lot of great dogs, but I never met one that was worth anal assault and a life in the joint! I'd like to meet your dog!

[Justin Case]

So, you would kill a person and go to prison, because they were going to harm your dog? You'll take life behind bars and a regular snuggle session with a couple of big dudes in the slammer to protect your dog? I've met a lot of great dogs, but I never met one that was worth anal assault and a life in the joint! I'd like to meet your dog!

without question,, i have to answer to my own law before worrying about the law of the land, Like i said, My dog is Family, Plain and simple, If some SOB tries to do harm to any member of my family I will do whatever is necessary to prevent it, Up to and including killing them, BTW,, Only the weak get "assaulted" in prison, I assure you, I am not weak.

[DOGMAN]

without question,, i have to answer to my own law before worrying about the law of the land, Like i said, My dog is Family, Plain and simple, If some SOB tries to do harm to any member of my family I will do whatever is necessary to prevent it, Up to and including killing them, BTW,, Only the weak get "assaulted" in prison, I assure you, I am not weak.

ok, I'll just leave this alone...you go on thinking your willing to do hard time, and dedicating the rest of your life to being a tough guy protecting your backside because you were noble and answered to your own laws when somebody threatend your dog...lol

One last question though- who will take care of your dog and family while your in prison?

[Justin Case]

ok, I'll just leave this alone...you go on thinking your willing to do hard time, and dedicating the rest of your life to being a tough guy protecting your backside because you were noble and answered to your own laws when somebody threatend your dog...lol

One last question though- who will take care of your dog and family while your in prison?

you should leave it alone, you are only making an *** out of yourself.

[Rick]

Okay, gentlemen. Let's agree to disagree, shall we? No point in getting personal.

[DOGMAN]

I enjoy making an arse out of myself by pointing out the absurdity of your comments....but, ok lets leave it alone

[Justin Case]

I enjoy making an arse out of myself by pointing out the absurdity of your comments....but, ok lets leave it alone

Nothing absurd about it, simple Fact ! you are the kind of guy that would allow somebody to hurt a member of your family because you are scared of going to prison and being "anally assaulted" LOL,, I think you win the prize for absurd comments,,

Have a Nice Day .

[DOGMAN]

Nothing absurd about it, simple Fact ! you are the kind of guy that would allow somebody to hurt a member of your family because you are scared of going to prison and being "anally assaulted" LOL,, I think you win the prize for absurd comments,,

Have a Nice Day .

Wrong...

I said, "I think your all delusional and overly sentimental....My dogs are assets and traveling companions"....

Dogs aren't family...as Rick said, "they are considered personal property in most states" I stick to what I've said....you are delusional and overly sentimental.

[Justin Case]

Wrong...

I said, "I think your all delusional and overly sentimental....My dogs are assets and traveling companions"....

Dogs aren't family...as Rick said, "they are considered personal property in most states" I stick to what I've said....you are delusional and overly sentimental.

No,, My Dog is FAMILY,, Like I said,, Who are you to judge what my dog means to me and what I would do to protect him? Dont pretend you know me, because you do not, you have no idea what i am capable of doing to protect my family which my dog is very much a part of,, Now why dont you just let it go.

[hunter63]

Lets all hope it doesn't come down to that, boys, so lets move on.
Only you will know what is the best course when and if the time comes...........

[DOGMAN]

No,, My Dog is FAMILY,, Like I said,, Who are you to judge what my dog means to me and what I would do to protect him? Dont pretend you know me, because you do not, you have no idea what i am capable of doing to protect my family which my dog is very much a part of,, Now why dont you just let it go.

I wont be the one judging you however...it will be the judicial system. I understand your attachment to your pet, but for me, to be realistic. I can't compromise my human family's (wife and kid's) well-being to be overly sentimental to something the court views as property. It would be delusional (in the sense of what constitutes family) of me if I did so.

[Justin Case]

I wont be the one judging you however...it will be the judicial system. I understand your attachment to your pet, but for me, to be realistic. I can't compromise my human family's (wife and kid's) well-being to be overly sentimental to something the court views as property. It would be delusional (in the sense of what constitutes family) of me if I did so.

It doesnt matter to me what the "court" thinks,, I'll cross that bridge if and when i get there, The way I feel about it is the way I feel about it,

BTW,, I would have every belief that whoever was trying to harm my dog was also trying to harm me,,,, There, now its justified,, happy now ?

[tsitenha]

So playing the Devils advocate:devil2:

Any good recipies.....??

If the time comes, everyone will have to make his/her own decision and live or die by it.

I just love being a breed with no shame

[Rick]

Personally, I think it's sad that I have to lock a thread to keep two adults from fighting. What's wrong with you two?