Fortifying the BOV

[Rick]

I have a question for some of you Bug Out folks. You have a remote place you plan to head out to for whatever reason and I assume you have some type of bug out vehicle to get you there. Have you taken any precautions to beef up the bug out vehicle? Something like bullet proof the doors or grill? There's all kinds of things you can do to enhance your vehicle and give you an edge but if someone can punch holes through the sheet metal with small bore stuff you might not make it very far.

[lucznik]

I don't consider needing to defeat small arms fire to be a very likely scenario. Even if it was, bulletproofing a vehicle would be prohibitively expensive for me.

My kids and I recently watched an episode of Mythbusters where they tried to bullet proof a car by filling all the available spaces in the doors and such with phone books. They failed.

[klickitat]

I have access to kevlar panels if you are looking for some.

[Alaskan Survivalist]

I think private citizens owning bullet proof vehicles is illegal. This thread may violate forum rules.

[doug1980]

Don't think there is a law saying it is illegal. There are companies who build these cars for famous people, who may be rich but are still private citizens.

[Alaskan Survivalist]

It's like during Katrina. Private citizens had thier guns confiscated but the rich had armed security. It is fairly new but have you noticed there are no old hippies driving armored cars around anymore? I heard it somewhere. I'm sure one of the guys that's good finding stuff on computer will find out soon enough.

[Rick]

Google bullet proof vehicles. There are tons of companies that do it. Little different than owning a bullet proof vest or body armor.

[kyratshooter]

It's like during Katrina. Private citizens had thier guns confiscated but the rich had armed security.

What answer are you looking for and what do you consider a solution to this problem.

You sure hate people with enough money to buy a tank of gas!

The "rich" (and we have not defined that term yet) were smart enough to get the heck out of New Orleans before Katrina hit! That is why they are rich. They are generally smart and have the inate ability to think ahead.

The ones that stayed, in an area with a police force that is rated as worst in the nation, were the stupid ones that thought they could ride out a cat 5 huricane 15 feet below sea level. They were told to leave for a week before the event. The beer was still cold so they stayed.

Katrina was 5 years ago and the supreme court already made a ruling on the case which is nationally known and part of federal law. Everything that can be done has been done in that reguard.

Same with bugging out of any urban area during any situation. If you do not get out early your chances are slim anyway. If you leave at the first sign of trouble you will not need the BP vehicle anyway.

Well built BP cars look just like any other car. How would those bad gun and car confiscating police know the difference and why would they care?

[Alaskan Survivalist]

What answer are you looking for and what do you consider a solution to this problem.

You sure hate people with enough money to buy a tank of gas!

The "rich" (and we have not defined that term yet) were smart enough to get the heck out of New Orleans before Katrina hit! That is why they are rich. They are generally smart and have the inate ability to think ahead.

The ones that stayed, in an area with a police force that is rated as worst in the nation, were the stupid ones that thought they could ride out a cat 5 huricane 15 feet below sea level. They were told to leave for a week before the event. The beer was still cold so they stayed.

Katrina was 5 years ago and the supreme court already made a ruling on the case which is nationally known and part of federal law. Everything that can be done has been done in that reguard.

Same with bugging out of any urban area during any situation. If you do not get out early your chances are slim anyway. If you leave at the first sign of trouble you will not need the BP vehicle anyway.

Well built BP cars look just like any other car. How would those bad gun and car confiscating police know the difference and why would they care?

I made no implication one way or the other or that it was even a problem. I never gave it any thought. Only offered it as a possible explanation of how private citezens could legally have Bullet proof vehicles. You sure read a lot into that. I don't know the law on it but seem to recall something about them being illegal. Do you know anything about that?

[AirborneEagles]

There is no law against owning or building your own bullet proof vehicle. It may be something that Congress may draw up if the Drug Runners from Mexico start using them frequently, but I highly doubt it will be any time soon.

The military is not really concerned since it has many armor piercing rounds of many types. Thus if any terrorist would use the idea, it would be fruitless and a waste of money.

From thieves and other gang members trying to take out your vehicle to rob you, then that is each persons preference. It does happen at times during a crisis if you have the only vehicle running in the area and they want it for their own to use. Probably can find all you need at any metal recycling place and its just by the pound for steel or iron, which you can get a lot for about 100 bucks. Think I bought a little over 400 pounds of raw steel for my roof for just over 100 bucks. Prices change according to market prices though per pound.

I thought about throwing some 1 inch steel panels on the truck, but the weight would really cut down on gas mileage and not to mention I would need beefier suspension as well. Extra costs all around. So I figure if need be I will just put a temp box in the back that snaps together if I have to, but no hurry on that since other projects are at hand.

If anything, a good bullet proof vest and or a nice bullet proof blanket will do the trick and if you worry about the engine being shot up, adding some Kevlar panels will help. Police websites sell them for their vehicles. To cover my trucks engine (hood and side panels) would be over 500 bucks. More than I want to spend.

Good ideas, but almost can easily buy a nice armored world war II vehicle online for the price it would take to build one. Some I found were only a few thousand dollars. (They keep going up in price each year now.)

[oldsoldier]

I have access to kevlar panels if you are looking for some.

Can you get body armor as well? PM me please. ( If it's not a forum violation)

[hunter63]

I still want an ambulance as a BOV, after all who would shoot up an ambulance?, and if you marked it "bio-hazard", no one would want to get anywhere you.

[shooter_250]

OLD SOLDIER...if he can get panels...i can make patterns ...

just saying...

[y2k]

If can afford all that, why not just live where you'd bug out to? Save the risks, hassles and expenses of all the transport.

[finallyME]

I guess I missed this the first time around. Anyways, I personally know a family in San Antonio who owns a company who armors cars. They went to my church and their sons went to my school. They even gave us a tour or their place. Pretty impressive. I saw a Ferrari getting stripped down to up armor. Anyways, it is legal and anyone who has cash enough can do it. But, it would be a better plan to make yourself look like something not worth the effort. You know, urban camouflage.
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[y2k]

yeah, or not BE urban.

[SARKY]

For small arms you could use .5 inch polycarbonate sheet. It's easy to get, easy to cut to size/shape and cheaper than steel or kevlar plates.

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