What Does Survival mean to you?

[klickitat]

A thought hit me last night. I get on this site and talk about survival, but I do not think that I view it the same as everyone else.

I do not fly and if I am in the woods hunting or fishing, I have everything I need to live in the woods comfortably for as long as I choose to.

So for me survival would have to include one of the following:

#1 A serious injury that prevents me from walking out.
#2 A serious illness that incapacitates me.
#3 A freak snow storm that locks me in deep, in the bush.

Anything but these three scenarios is nothing more than living in the woods. However the first two scenarios is as scary as it gets and few of us ever practice or prepare for those.

What does survival mean to you?

[Sarge47]

My famous, or rather, infamous quote is: "Survival is NOT the latest extreme sport; it's life over death!" Anything that threatens your life is a survival situation, weather it be what you just named, a Pandemic, a hurricane like Katrina, a Tnusumi, Aids/HIV; a toxic spill from a near-by company, truck, or railroad car...and so on. There are some on here that don't seem to understand how I view this. They seem to think that you have to be a virile, strong, individual, preferably young with loads of equipment. Yet sick, frail, elderly people have survived very nasty situations, & all without a big survival knife; go figure. :cool2:

[Alaskan Survivalist]

I use the dictionary to determine the meaning of words.

[2dumb2kwit]

I agree with Sarge. To me, survival is mostly a mind set, and it's definition is always changing.

I think some people are survivors, and some people are not....just like some people are leaders, and others are not.

[Sarge47]

I use the dictionary to determine the meaning of words.
Not a bad idea actually; here's what mine says regarding "survival":

1.) Living or continuing longer than another person or thing.
2.) The continuation of life or existence.
3.) One who survives.

Now under "survive:"

1.) To live.
2.) To remain alive or in existence: Live in.
3.) To continue to function or prosper despite: withstand.

Great post AS, I'm going to give you some rep for that! :cool2:

[Rick]

Ditto. Anything that threatens your life. An animal attack, a storm, injury, flash flood, and on and on and on.

[klickitat]

I love these answers. So are we going to start seeing some threads on improvising chemical and biological suits, gas masks, one handed tactical reloads. Maybe a thread on taking out a bear with pointy stick or using UFC moves in the local bar.

Maybe something more practical like back yard gun smithing or casting your own car parts when broke down in the woods.

[Rick]

Wow! I hadn't thought about any of that stuff. I have to go. I have more preps to put together.

[klickitat]

Wow! I hadn't thought about any of that stuff. I have to go. I have more preps to put together.
:drink: LOL

[BENESSE]

So are we going to start seeing some threads on improvising chemical and biological suits, gas masks, one handed tactical reloads. Maybe a thread on taking out a bear with pointy stick or using UFC moves in the local bar.

Maybe something more practical like back yard gun smithing or casting your own car parts when broke down in the woods.

How about seeing more about your first two points, klick?:
#1 A serious injury that prevents me from walking out.
#2 A serious illness that incapacitates me.

I know it's much more fun to talk about the other stuff but chances of #1 & #2 happening are much higher when you only consider what some of your friends and family expired from.

Personally, I think it's ALL important--starting with things you can control and working from there.
If you're still smoking a pack a day and fine-tuning your various kits, I'd say you've got some private thinking to do.
I'd like to see more threads about "balance" in all things survival. The hard things and the fun things.

[Sourdough]

Survival to me is breath in & exhale. Failure to survive for me is NO more breathing.

[BENESSE]

Survival to me is breath in & exhale. Failure to survive for me is NO more breathing.

So simple, and yet so complex!

[Sourdough]

So simple, and yet so complex!

Like relationships, and life.

[BENESSE]

Like relationships, and life.

But none of us can leave it at that, can we?
If we could, there'd be no reason for the forum.

[Justin Case]

But none of us can leave it at that, can we?
If we could, there'd be no reason for the forum.

camaraderie ;)

[Alaskan Survivalist]

How about seeing more about your first two points, klick?:
#1 A serious injury that prevents me from walking out.
#2 A serious illness that incapacitates me.

I know it's much more fun to talk about the other stuff but chances of #1 & #2 happening are much higher when you only consider what some of your friends and family expired from.

Personally, I think it's ALL important--starting with things you can control and working from there.
If you're still smoking a pack a day and fine-tuning your various kits, I'd say you've got some private thinking to do.
I'd like to see more threads about "balance" in all things survival. The hard things and the fun things.

Consider that some may wish to live or die on thier own terms. Risky behavior and the consequences is a choice. It is having things regarding how I live or die being imposed upon me is why I prepare.

[BENESSE]

Consider that some may wish to live or die on thier own terms. Risky behavior and the consequences is a choice. It is having things regarding how I live or die being imposed upon me is why I prepare.

I understand that when you choose the behavior you choose the consequences.
(or at least that's how it ought to be.)
But are the consequences any easier to endure for you and your loved ones just because you chose them? Wouldn't you want to minimize dying in general--no matter on whose terms? Isn't that what survival is all about--minimizing dying from whatever causes you can control?
Well at least, it is for me. :) Although, I do concede that it could be subjective.

[Alaskan Survivalist]

Wouldn't you want to minimize dying in general

I would want to maximize living, not the same thing.

[BENESSE]

I would want to maximize living, not the same thing.

Not literally--but I think we understand each other.
We prefer to be alive vs. dead.
Although...wouldn't you say your odds would improve considerably (you like Vegas) if you could do both--maximize living while minimizing dying?

[klickitat]

I would want to maximize living, not the same thing.

That just scored you big rep! Sorry, it says that I am out of bullets

[oldsoldier]

+1 on sarge and 2D's posts. ANY situation could be a survival situation. Even making it through a day/night in a big city.

[BENESSE]

+1 on sarge and 2D's posts. ANY situation could be a survival situation. Even making it through a day/night in a big city.

Tell me about it. :ohmy:

[Beans]

To me survival is coming out alive. If I don't then everything else doesn't/didn't matter.

[Rick]

I thought it might be easier to demonstrate survival.

The gentleman on the left survived. The one on the right did not. Any questions?

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[NightShade]

I would want to maximize living, not the same thing.
Oh..!....... So......... So.....so... So well put! I agree 100. Percent!

[Sarge47]

Maximize living? Hmmm, care to elaborate? How about just managing to stay alive? I just watched a new episode of Discovery's "Sole Survivor" where one guy out of 8 survived a plane crash, but it sure wasn't pretty. Some of us, like Sourdough, do understand what the term "survival" means in the broad sense. Narrow it down a bit & we look at it a bit differently. For example one can be a "Cancer survivor" & you wouldn't view that as what this forum is all about. It's about staying alive in the Wilderness. In it's broad sense, if you go camping, have a good time, come home & relax; you have certainly survived your camping trip even though you didn't have to endure any real bad times. Then there's what you might term "survival camping" where you make up your own situation. Some have done that & if it's done wisely & safely I would approve, but choose to call it "survival learning." You are preparing yourself with the experience that would go with your academic knowledge.

Finally we have the situation where everything goes South. You lose all that fancy equipment you bought & have to make it on your own. You watch your best friend or even your spouse or child die right in front of you yet you go on. You get badly burned, or have a broken leg or arm and you're all alone. You don't have to be "lost," you could just be cut off by a flood or something.

Some come on here thinking that they are the best thing since sliced bread when it comes to survival. Those that have really survived a bad situation try to explain it to them but they refuse to listen, they know it all. I consider such in any really bad survival situation as somebody I would not want to be with as they would more than likely present an additional danger to others as well as themselves, along with the dangers already being faced.

There are some on here who's opinion on this oppose mine and that's okay as the odds of us being together in any really bad situation are 1 in a billion. At the end of the day, it's starts & often ends with having the right attitude, as I've said so many times. Ok, you can take the soap box away now. :sneaky2: :cool2:

[Alaskan Survivalist]

Maximize living? Hmmm, care to elaborate?

NO..................

[rwc1969]

What does survival mean to me?

it means not listening to people who know nothing about the subject, and just going on living as I have, and ignoring the stupidity and ignorance I see on a daily basis.

It sure don't mean kissing up to folks that don't give a squat whether I live or die or posting stupid comments on forums which some seem to be on 24/7 "talking about survival".

Most people have no clue what survival really is. You could beat them in the head with it and they'd think it was the alarm clock going off in the morning, or the ride or walk in to their cushy job at which they are grossly overpaid and underworked.

Most people look down on and riducule the true survivors. Most people live out their lives with no real worries and think they are survivors, but they are not. They are just the lucky ones who have never had to know what true survival is. And when you tell them they get mad at you because deep down they feel guilty.

They confuse survival with living and that's how you can tell they are not survivors, just feeder guppies that slipped thru to the other side of the tank divider, the side that has no predators, the side that has clean water and plenty of fish food falling into their overfed mouths everyday like clockwork. They think they work for it, but it's just given to them as a reward for their ignorance and submittance.

It's really too bad that the ones who are most loud about this subject are the ones who will never really know what true survival is. They'll just continue to sit back and mock the true survivors and profit from their misfortune.

[Winter]

Survival for many of us is a verb and a noun.

It's hot and cold, fact and theory, history and present, scary and exciting, training and real, foresight and hindsight, comfort and misery, failure and victory.

It makes an enlightening hobby.

[ATough]

anything that puts my life or those around me in immediate danger be it natural disaster reduced to near nothing in the woods, man made problems or war. camping, bushwacking and survival are all different. if i were injured deep in the bush with next to no gear and still persevered through it all, i view that as the survival which i come here for. martial law terrorism are all possible here in the states only less likely and far more dispersed then other nations so i prepare for such occasions as well as major hurricanes (gotta love the SUNSHINE STATE) but survival is just that to keep living against all odds and hope.

[Alaskan Survivalist]

"He who laughs last, laughs best".

[NCO]

The ability to live in all situations.

[2dumb2kwit]

How many people confuse preparedness with survival? Granted, being prepared may help you survive, but a lot of what we talk about here is really preping that is for comfort, more than survival......isn't it???

[BENESSE]

How many people confuse preparedness with survival? Granted, being prepared may help you survive, but a lot of what we talk about here is really preping that is for comfort, more than survival......isn't it???

Don't know about anyone else, but I'm here to learn how to prep for survival in a SHTF situation. Definitely not comfort, trust me on that one! I am not going to split hairs about what survival is--whether it's waking up alive every morning in your comfy bed or surviving an adverse situation where the odds were stacked heavily against you. Whatever.
This is serious business for me made more actionable because of where I live.
So when some of you talk about "recreational" survivors with cushy jobs, and no worries about "real" survival, why don't you c'mon up and put in some time surviving here, then we can talk again.

[PNW]

Survival means not dying, during the life tests God gives us.

[NightShade]

Maximize living? Hmmm, care to elaborate?

Survival is simply staying alive... enough said...
But on this site and much worse on some of those "other forums" there are people who are all consumed with "survival" and being prepared for ANYTHING.
now, I'm all for being prepared and wouldn't knock someone who prepares more elaboretly than myself.... BUT... prepare for an asteroid strike?? I honestly think that there are some situations that you just cant prepare for yourself... at least not in a feasible way at my budget...That's when you gotta improvise and use your head to stay alive IMO...
Some of my favorite pasttimes are considered risky... I consider them adventurous...
I personally am not going to become so consumed with "surviving" and risk-assessing everything I do that I cant enjoy life along the way.
You can prepare for every possiblle scenario, insulate yourself against all perceived threats... and still get struck by lightning or hit by a bus tomorrow..

I'll prepare to take care of my family should some sort of either mini or major disaster occur....But I'm still going to live and enjoy life along the way...
at least that's my take on "maxamizing living"

[klickitat]

If survival is just about not dying then each and everyone is born with that instinct. That is the nature of any animal.

How well one survives depends on the level of education. That does not mean a PHD. That means an education in self sufficiency. The more a person can learn to do and to make the more likely he or she is to survive in the long run. In fact, the more self sufficient capable a person is, the more living they will do rather than merely scratching out a survival.

In an immediate life and death situation, a positive mental attitude is the most important survival skill one could have. There are a few on here that are so full of self pity, that they will collapse at the first sign of distress. They are so concerned with how others are better off then themselves then how to better their own situation. These people are weak and have already lost the battle.

To answer my own question, I believe in surviving the immediate ordeal to thrive no matter where I am at. That can be from having an emergency savings account to gold and silver, from being well trained with a gun to being able to maintain and repair it, from having stocks of food to being able to produce my own, being able to hunt, fish, trap and be able to put that meat up. I believe you better be able to build, produce or gather ANYTHING you want.

Don't get stuck in the initial throws of survival, progress and move on. Oh and for Pete's sake quit wallowing in self pity

[Justin Case]

If survival is just about not dying then each and everyone is born with that instinct. That is the nature of any animal.

How well one survives depends on the level of education. That does not mean a PHD. That means an education in self sufficiency. The more a person can learn to do and to make the more likely he or she is to survive in the long run. In fact, the more self sufficient capable a person is, the more living they will do rather than merely scratching out a survival.

In an immediate life and death situation, a positive mental attitude is the most important survival skill one could have. There are a few on here that are so full of self pity, that they will collapse at the first sign of distress. They are so concerned with how others are better off then themselves then how to better their own situation. These people are weak and have already lost the battle.

To answer my own question, I believe in surviving the immediate ordeal to thrive no matter where I am at. That can be from having an emergency savings account to gold and silver, from being well trained with a gun to being able to maintain and repair it, from having stocks of food to being able to produce my own, being able to hunt, fish, trap and be able to put that meat up. I believe you better be able to build, produce or gather ANYTHING you want.

Don't get stuck in the initial throws of survival, progress and move on. Oh and for Pete's sake quit wallowing in self pity

I agree 100 % ! Rep sent !

[Rick]

Klick, I have to agree with you and Nightshade both. I don't understand prepping for Armageddon or some great earth engulfing disaster. The truth is we probably won't survive it. I don't understand why folks think everyone else will die and they will be one of the few to survive. I hope the asteroid lasts right on their house and I survive to use their preps. That'll show 'em.

[Sarge47]

If survival is just about not dying then each and everyone is born with that instinct. That is the nature of any animal.

How well one survives depends on the level of education. That does not mean a PHD. That means an education in self sufficiency. The more a person can learn to do and to make the more likely he or she is to survive in the long run. In fact, the more self sufficient capable a person is, the more living they will do rather than merely scratching out a survival.

In an immediate life and death situation, a positive mental attitude is the most important survival skill one could have. There are a few on here that are so full of self pity, that they will collapse at the first sign of distress. They are so concerned with how others are better off then themselves then how to better their own situation. These people are weak and have already lost the battle.

To answer my own question, I believe in surviving the immediate ordeal to thrive no matter where I am at. That can be from having an emergency savings account to gold and silver, from being well trained with a gun to being able to maintain and repair it, from having stocks of food to being able to produce my own, being able to hunt, fish, trap and be able to put that meat up. I believe you better be able to build, produce or gather ANYTHING you want.

Don't get stuck in the initial throws of survival, progress and move on. Oh and for Pete's sake quit wallowing in self pity
Yep! Got rep! BTW, studies have shown that those who study & prepare to survive in the outdoors very seldom need to use their skills & gear. Interesting. :cool2:

[Batch]

Here bend it a little, push a bit, hit it with a hammer right there. No, maybe heat it up with a torch to get it to fit your idea.

Like AS said... but definitions vary.

worldwideweb.WILDERNESS-SURVIVAL.net

We have a wilderness survival forum where it seems most of the members very infrequently go into the wilderness, woods or even out of doors.

There are people on here who can do things that outdoorsmen can't in a wilderness survival situation. Even though those people rarely leave their backyard.

Didn't we have a member here who garnered praise and rep who never did ANY of the stuff he said he did. Like many forums we have keyboard commandos who postulate on this or that without ever getting off of their posterior.

I read, learn, try and move on. Your not like me and I'm not like you. I don't hate you because your different and you shouldn't hate me because I am beautiful! :innocent:

See the ball, be the ball!

[Rick]

You started drinkin' early today didn't you?

[Batch]

Yup, water! Went out to Corbett yesterday and it was still 93 with 90 percent humidity at 9:00PM.

That is in the hundreds heat index. AT FRIGGIN NIGHT!

Slept in the Hennesee Hammock.

[crashdive123]

Are you still liking that hammock?

[Batch]

I am. I bought a battery powered fan this weekend at Walmart for less than $20. It worked great while sleeping.

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[crashdive123]

One of those battery powered fans has saved me from much marital discord while camping during warmer periods.

[Rick]

Yeah, I don't care what the real men say, I like my fan.

[Erratus Animus]

....But are the consequences any easier to endure for you and your loved ones just because you chose them? Wouldn't you want to minimize dying in general--no matter on whose terms? Isn't that what survival is all about--minimizing dying from whatever causes you can control?



This is an area that I am dealing with right now and all I can say about it is you will never know till you go through it. It is my wish that none of you ever haft too.

Survival is as much a mindset as it is prompt action ,blind luck and if He chooses Divine Providence. Sometimes no matter what you do or who you are you will fail as the deck is stacked against you, worse yet it is stacked against your best friend and brother. So now you watch and wait knowing the end is near and seeing the pain that is caused in such a close family and you know it will never be the same.

This is the time to reevaluate your survival goals and how you will deploy them because this is the time that will destroy who you are or it will strengthen who you are. Make no mistake that will be your choice and your choice alone.

[Sarge47]

To get back to the question that the OP asked, based on much research, my answer to the question posed: "What does survival mean to you?" would be answered thusly:

"To overcome any adverse situation despite any odds standing in the way."

RWC uses a term that, I must confess, I'm unfamiliar with: "true survivor." I have just recently checked all of my books on survival & can't find the term anywhere. So, for the record, I would have to say, given the broad meaning of the term, that I consider every member on here that's alive & breathing a "true survivor." In the narrower sense that's congruent with the OP's original question; I would have to say that Gray Wolf is most certainly a "true survivor."

On Mykel Hawkes' website he links to a "survival school" that he's affiliated with called Spec-Ops. They boast that their goal is to teach their students how to survive with only a knife & the clothes on their backs. :innocent: They advertise a knife designed by Mykel himself that runs over $200. They close with this phrase: "Happy Survivalin'!" I don't believe that those two words can be used together in the same context as they meant it; there's nothing happy about going through a really nasty survival situation. Just ask Gray Wolf when he gets back. If you can breeze through any true survival situation then that's not survivn'...that's thrivin'; which is more preferable in my book at any rate.

Bear Grylls markets his own line of "Survival clothes." Do you like his Gore-Tex jacket he's been wearing lately? You can buy one from an English company called Craghopper for a measly $475. Remember, you can't survive in high fasion without the BG line of survival togs! Or was it BS? Hmmm. :innocent:

I read what both RWC & AS wrote about survival; for the record, I don't view them as "true survivors in the sense that I think they may have meant it, but rather as "survivalists;" people who focus totally on becoming one with the outdoors & within their own local geographic environment. AS even uses the term: "Survivalist" on his user name. I also see nothing wrong with that or with that. At least it's "boots in the field." However if either one starts trying to sell their own line of special clothing or a special knife then their credibility might be at risk. :sneaky2:

Just my buck two fifty. :cool2:

[rwc1969]

I'm not a survivalist. LOL! I'm just an everyday Joe that likes doing this stuff for fun. And, if it helps prepare me for whatever may or may not come that's great. I agree with nightshade, you can prepare all you want and then walk outside and get hit by lightning or run over by a bus.

I'm not knocking anyone here, just stating what I believe. I don't prepare in the sense some here do, but I don't knock them for it, I encourage them and I appreciate the things they show me and others here as well.

Why would someone marketing a product, as long as it was a good product, affect your credibility rating of them Sarge? Rick markets his products on here all the time, 24/7. And, others here plug his site in their videos, other websites, and here as well through the posts they make. 24/7! I see nothing wrong with that. Do you? Do you have something against someone making money doing the things they enjoy?

Mykel Hawke talked about the difference between survival and living in one of his recent episodes, a view I tend to favor.

I don't wish anyone to fall off their high horse or for an asteroid to fall on their house, but I will have no quams about picking the flesh from their dead, but fresh, body if it does happen. I will feel sorry for them if it does, but will have no quams about it. I'm all about using every resource available to me, not just wilderness skills, EVERY RESOURCE! I got skills brother, and they ain't all whittlin' sticks and talking sheet.

For the skills I don't have, I have others who I can rely on 100%, as they can rely on me. We take care of our own. GUARANTEED! Businessmen and women, private investigators, lawyers, doctors, judges, politicians, etc., etc.. I'm not the "lowdown anti-social backwoods hillbilly" you might think I am. Just because I talk like a redneck and sometimes act unintelligent don't mean I am. I associate with wise, intelligent and caring folks who have real American values, some of whom are quite well connected. We got each others back, and sometimes they tell me when someone's been "snoopin' 'round my back door" or inquiring about me.

It seems some on here feel that others envy their position, in my case it's not true. Some of us don't have the same goals in life as others. Some on here should respect that and allow others to live their life the way they feel fit. As long as it doesn't negatively affect you why should you care? I know some high up people and they don't care what I do, say or think, why should anyone here? They have enough self-esteem that they can take a jab or two and not collapse on the floor or go off whining to the teacher. LOL!

I've been unemployed for over two years now and you don't see me sponging off the government. I take care of my own, unlike the wealthy who prey on the weak.

I'm a survivor, not a survivalist. And, right now, I'm just plain ole livin'!!!!! I'll save the survivin' for when I or someone else needs it.

PEACE OUT!

[rwc1969]

BTW Sarge, I am getting tons of good use out of that knife I won from you. I really appreciate it! And, just in case you don't know, I still do consider you a friend even though I don't know you that well personally. If you ever need anything you just let me know. I got your back too, I hope you got mine.

[Alaskan Survivalist]

I practice safety and preparation which eliminates survival situations. What I anticpate coming is far worse. Face it if you want the best wilderness survival plan avoid it. What other people think or do? Not relavent to wilderness survival. When you get out on your you will find your own worth. I know I have never needed Sarges approval to live my life up to this point nor he mine. I'm don't understand this phenomenon but very interesting to observe and I am sure contributes to the collapse I see coming. This is what wars are based on that will be part of the future just as it is part of other peoples present now. The wilderness is my way to avoid the worlds problems and dangers. Always has been.

[BENESSE]

I practice safety and preparation which eliminates survival situations. What I anticpate coming is far worse. Face it if you want the best wilderness survival plan avoid it. What other people think or do? Not relavent to wilderness survival. When you get out on your you will find your own worth. I know I have never needed Sarges approval to live my life up to this point nor he mine. I'm don't understand this phenomenon but very interesting to observe and I am sure contributes to the collapse I see coming. This is what wars are based on that will be part of the future just as it is part of other peoples present now. The wilderness is my way to avoid the worlds problems and dangers. Always has been.

It hasn't been mine. Up to a few yrs. ago.
I've got a lot of catching up to do. Don't know how much I can avoid at this point, but it does help restore sanity and humanity.

[Sarge47]

BTW Sarge, I am getting tons of good use out of that knife I won from you. I really appreciate it! And, just in case you don't know, I still do consider you a friend even though I don't know you that well personally. If you ever need anything you just let me know. I got your back too, I hope you got mine.I view the members on here as a sort of a family; weird, I know. Families disagree...we're predominately Irish where I come from, you ought to see & hear our family reuinions, neighbors want to call the police as they think we're killing each other! However let anyone from the outside try to get in the way & we're all on them...freakin' Irish! :sneaky2:

[Sarge47]

I practice safety and preparation which eliminates survival situations. What I anticpate coming is far worse. Face it if you want the best wilderness survival plan avoid it. What other people think or do? Not relavent to wilderness survival. When you get out on your you will find your own worth. I know I have never needed Sarges approval to live my life up to this point nor he mine. I'm don't understand this phenomenon but very interesting to observe and I am sure contributes to the collapse I see coming. This is what wars are based on that will be part of the future just as it is part of other peoples present now. The wilderness is my way to avoid the worlds problems and dangers. Always has been.I find this interesting, & strangely enough I agree with you up to a certain point. The prudent person avoids &/or prepares for the potentially problem areas that can bring them harm. However all the safety & preparation in the world cannot save you from circumstances beyond your control, or beyond the areas you've trained/practiced for; that's called "Murphy's law." Still, I would say that given your background you'll fare better than those who have never done likewise. :cool2:

[Winnie]

Survival to me is ending each day intact and alive, regardless of what life has thrown at me during that time.

[Sarge47]

I've posted in between the lines you've written in red.

Why would someone marketing a product, as long as it was a good product, affect your credibility rating of them Sarge? That was a joke son, I say, a joke! Also, I never said that Mykel marketing the knife affected his credibility rating; there's way too much other stuff that already does that! I just don't approve of the way he goes about it.

Rick markets his products on here all the time, 24/7. And, others here plug his site in their videos, other websites, and here as well through the posts they make. 24/7! I see nothing wrong with that. Do you? Do you have something against someone making money doing the things they enjoy?No, again, you're taking what I wrote out of context. Rick isn't trying to palm himself off as a survival expert, but I'd listen to him & many of the others on here before I would Mr. Hawke.

Mykel Hawke talked about the difference between survival and living in one of his recent episodes, a view I tend to favor.Kind of makes me wonder who wrote it for him. :innocent: However, favor what you will. I've already caught several mistakes on there that he also talks about.

I don't wish anyone to fall off their high horse or for an asteroid to fall on their house, but I will have no quams about picking the flesh from their dead, but fresh, body if it does happen.(Note to self, don't "hang" with RWC. :innocent:)

I will feel sorry for them if it does, but will have no quams about it.Yes, but will you honor them before eating them, that's the question? :innocent:

I'm all about using every resource available to me, not just wilderness skills, EVERY RESOURCE! I got skills brother,You're my brother? MOM...? We've got to talk! :innocent:



For the skills I don't have, I have others who I can rely on 100%, as they can rely on me. We take care of our own. GUARANTEED! Businessmen and women, private investigators, lawyers, doctors, judges, politicians, etc., etc..Sounds like most of our membership.

I'm not the "lowdown anti-social backwoods hillbilly" you might think I am. Hey! For the record, I never considered you "lowdown," okay? :sneaky2:

Just because I talk like a redneck and sometimes act unintelligent don't mean I am.Okay, I've got to think about this statement. :sneaky2:

I associate with wise, intelligent and caring folks who have real American values, some of whom are quite well connected. We got each others back, and sometimes they tell me when someone's been "snoopin' 'round my back door"You're kidding! Who's been interested in your "back door?" :innocent:

or inquiring about me. Probably those "back door guys.":sneaky2:

It seems some on here feel that others envy their position, in my case it's not true.Oh man, I could of got you a job driving buses just like that! :sneaky2:

Some of us don't have the same goals in life as others. Some on here should respect that and allow others to live their life the way they feel fit.And who isn't doing that?

why should you care?Exactly!

I know some high up people and they don't care what I do, say or think, why should anyone here? Okay, this sentence confuses me, are you saying that they don't value your input or opinions?


I've been unemployed for over two years now and you don't see me sponging off the government. I take care of my own, unlike the wealthy who prey on the weak.Okay, a lot of what I posted above hasn't been all that serious, I admit I was having a bit of fun, but I need to say here that I highly respect this! I call that "TRUE SURVIVAL!" Good for you! That does make you a "true survivor" in my book! :cool2:

I'm a survivor, not a survivalist. And, right now, I'm just plain ole livin'!!!!!I know you'll disagree with me, but you're definatley survivn', & my hat's off to you! :cool2:

PEACE OUT!

[Sarge47]

Survival to me is ending each day intact and alive, regardless of what life has thrown at me during that time.Rep sent to both you & Erratus Annamus! :cool2:

[Justin Case]

Ha ha ha ,, well you are in fine form today Sarge lol

[rwc1969]

Of all the good topics posted why do these ones always get the most attention?

and where is the smilie bangin his head against a brick wall?

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

Here bend it a little, push a bit, hit it with a hammer right there. No, maybe heat it up with a torch to get it to fit your idea.

Like AS said... but definitions vary.

worldwideweb.WILDERNESS-SURVIVAL.net

We have a wilderness survival forum where it seems most of the members very infrequently go into the wilderness, woods or even out of doors.

There are people on here who can do things that outdoorsmen can't in a wilderness survival situation. Even though those people rarely leave their backyard.

Didn't we have a member here who garnered praise and rep who never did ANY of the stuff he said he did. Like many forums we have keyboard commandos who postulate on this or that without ever getting off of their posterior.

I read, learn, try and move on. Your not like me and I'm not like you. I don't hate you because your different and you shouldn't hate me because I am beautiful! :innocent:

See the ball, be the ball!

I here ya Batch...I Love the comradery to a point and at some point I know mostly they don't know what I mean...So what? I have invited everyone down here for a weekender..no takers...still though, we all have something to offer. In fact I'd have a good time showing you around after hearing you talk about gators...I don't give a crap what all of your sources say...Wanna go for a real boat ride?

[rwc1969]

BTW, only the first three paragraphs were directed at you Sarge, the others were just general observations and mindless dribble. >>--->Drooly face smilie here<---<<

[Batch]

I here ya Batch...I Love the comradery to a point and at some point I know mostly they don't know what I mean...So what? I have invited everyone down here for a weekender..no takers...still though, we all have something to offer. In fact I'd have a good time showing you around after hearing you talk about gators...I don't give a crap what all of your sources say...Wanna go for a real boat ride?

I ain't sure what you mean. If you doubt my word I'll post as many pictures of me with dead or live gators as you care to see. I have posted actual pictures of me when I talk about what I do. My sources can be argued but you ain't showing me shift so far or other wise step up! LOL

I can post at least a dozen gators legally taken. How are you backing your stuff?

[trax]

Well, after all these eloquent responses to the OP, I can't say much. Whatever I've been doing has worked so far, (breathe in, breathe out) yep still good to go.

[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

Well to be quite honest..... the FIRST thing that always pops in my head is getting lost/Crashing/ Or some other malady in the WILDERNESS. Main reason is that is what I have been reading about,studying etc.
True it means more.... probably more than all the people on this Forum can come up with a Single explanation/Definition. Just living another minute is surviving I would think in the "Definition" of the word. I guess it is like "Beauty" it's all in the eye of the beholder. I may think something is beautiful, you might think it's ugly.
Hey, I proclaimed myself a "Jamboree Survivor" just last year!!!:innocent:
I know I sure survived some "Whoopings" in my childhood days...... Didn't think I'd make it either!!! I've survived a couple of diseases. I've survived life on the streets. I survived the military. I've even survived Marriage and divorce!!!
Now I guess I better go back and read all those posts I skipped over since page 2..... Or I might not survive the ribbing I'll get.....:innocent:

[Batch]

I ain't sure what you mean. If you doubt my word I'll post as many pictures of me with dead or live gators as you care to see. I have posted actual pictures of me when I talk about what I do. My sources can be argued but you ain't showing me shift so far or other wise step up! LOL

I can post at least a dozen gators legally taken. How are you backing your stuff?

I kinda think I might have read this wrong. I am certainly here to make connections and not burn bridges.

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