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BENESSE
08-01-2010, 07:12 PM
This is something I think about a lot.
I know I can do more and I can do better, and I'm sure most people feel the same way. For no matter where you are, preparedness is an evolution.
So my question is...
If J.W. Rawls is the gold standard (at least in my sphere of awareness), where are you?
How far are you willing to go without becoming extereme? Extereme in the eyes of family and friends.
Extreme in the way you alter your life on the off chance that TEOTWAWKI will come to pass in your lifetime.
Extreme in altering your life now in exchange for the one later...after you've supposedly survived TEOTWAWKI.

Would that life be better/more satisfying than the one you have now? Is that why the sacrifice now is worth it?

Now note: I didn't say SHTF...I said TEOTWAWKI. There's a big difference, at least in the way history has played it out.
Probable vs. remote, the way I see it.
What are your "thinking out loud" feelings about it...if you don't mind sharing?

welderguy
08-01-2010, 07:23 PM
My view is there is no line to draw, I honestly believe a person can never be too prepared. As for looking extreme in the eyes of my family and friends They have thought that for years, but I'm the first one they run too when they need something , During severe storms and tornado watches there at my house.
I honestly think with what I have on hand for just me and my son I am good for 9 to 12 months for food, I need to improve in some areas and expand overall to 18 to 24 months for food and water storage.

BENESSE
08-01-2010, 07:37 PM
Again, if J.W. Rawls is on one end (fully prepared for TEOTWAWKI) is that something you'd aspire to?
Would that be a reasonable gamble for you?

Camp10
08-01-2010, 07:47 PM
I think in a TEOTWAWKI we will all just be winging it anyways. It that point, knowledge will be more useful then stuff. I will continue to read, learn and practice what I can. I am prepared for the likely SHTF situations as I see them. I do have quite a bit of food and tools and other items to help get me through for quite a while but part of my plan also is to fly below the radar.

I can bug in or out, I'm prepared to do either (or both) but I can only carry so much stuff and my garage is already full..:blushing:

Good thread Benesse.

hunter63
08-01-2010, 08:09 PM
I think in a TEOTWAWKI we will all just be winging it anyways. It that point, knowledge will be more useful then stuff. I will continue to read, learn and practice what I can. I am prepared for the likely SHTF situations as I see them. I do have quite a bit of food and tools and other items to help get me through for quite a while but part of my plan also is to fly below the radar.

I can bug in or out, I'm prepared to do either (or both) but I can only carry so much stuff and my garage is already full..:blushing:

Good thread Benesse.

I agree that this is a good thread, "B", and I also agree that we probably will never be "completely prepared" for any possible scenario.

I believe in actively preparing for what we can, when we can, but I won't be making it the driving force in my life.

At some point you just have to trust in your self, and in God, and keep on keeping on.

How many people out there would be disappointed when nothing big happens, or happens so slowly you don't really notice how bad it's really getting.
Kinda like now??????//

welderguy
08-01-2010, 08:13 PM
Again, if J.W. Rawls is on one end (fully prepared for TEOTWAWKI) is that something you'd aspire to?
Would that be a reasonable gamble for you?

Absolutely. My goal is to be prepared for TEOTWAWKI, I am always learning, practicing, prepping, or making.

Ive made a lot of changes to accommodate being able to buy things I may need later on ( if that happens in my life time) , and if it doesn't then the knowledge and non perishable preps will be my sons.

rwc1969
08-01-2010, 08:16 PM
I think that unless you are preparing to be self reliant then it's a waste of time and resources.

Sourdough
08-01-2010, 08:17 PM
Lady B, If I had lots of money, I would leave J W Rawles in the dust, I would have Massive Bunkers, 50 years of food. There would be no line. I would have huge ranches, (and a Woman) Fruit trees, stocked fish ponds, a private security company (Read small army). To me it is just a big hoot to do this stuff.

And I think there are many, many who have eclipsed Rawles. Rumor is Tom Cruse just built a 100 Million Dollar survival bunker. On one of the forums there is a guy with 60,000 acre ranch in northern California.

My neighbor across the street has an estimated 30 Million Dollars in his bug'out cabin, He went to the government and said, I want that Mountain, the whole Mountain, and they sold it to him. He is a Gazillion'air.

BENESSE
08-01-2010, 08:40 PM
Lady B, If I had lots of money, I would leave J W Rawles in the dust, I would have Massive Bunkers, 50 years of food. There would be no line. I would have huge ranches, (and a Woman) Fruit trees, stocked fish ponds, a private security company (Read small army). To me it is just a big hoot to do this stuff.

And I think there are many, many who have eclipsed Rawles. Rumor is Tom Cruse just built a 100 Million Dollar survival bunker. On one of the forums there is a guy with 60,000 acre ranch in northern California.

My neighbor across the street has an estimated 30 Million Dollars in his bug'out cabin, He went to the government and said, I want that Mountain, the whole Mountain, and they sold it to him. He is a Gazillion'air.

The question still stands SD...what is reasonable prep in your mind?
Are you compromising the present (whatever that is for you) for something post TEOTWAWKI survival? What guarantee do you have that it would be better? That you'de be more fulfilled?
Say you have all the money in the world.
Say you could outprep JW Rawls under the table. To what end? Just to survive?
Well you're alive now. Are you actually living?
Do you need to survive TEOTWAWKI to appreciate life more?

I ask myself this frequently. And I'm just not sure.

Sourdough
08-01-2010, 09:05 PM
The question still stands SD...what is reasonable prep in your mind?
Are you compromising the present (whatever that is for you) for something post TEOTWAWKI survival? What guarantee do you have that it would be better? That you'de be more fulfilled?
Say you have all the money in the world.
Say you could outprep JW Rawls under the table. To what end? Just to survive?
Well you're alive now. Are you actually living?
Do you need to survive TEOTWAWKI to appreciate life more?

I ask myself this frequently. And I'm just not sure.


No.......I just love this lifestyle, I love homesteading. It is the creating, the building, the planning, I love what I do every day. I have traveled, and now there is no-where I want to go. I am like "Siddhartha" at the end of his "Quest". It is just something to do, till the end gets here.........:) It is something to do that I enjoy doing. It is a life worth living.

BENESSE
08-01-2010, 09:08 PM
Well then, that's a good place to be.

nell67
08-01-2010, 09:11 PM
BEE, I say never stop trying to accomplish more preps,you can never have too many if TEOTWAWKI happens.

And in the event that IT does happen,but you do not survive the initial scenario,then your preps may be a life saving find for someone else,maybe a family member of yours,or even a stranger,which makes all your preps not in vain,but a worth while endeavor.

Sourdough
08-01-2010, 09:15 PM
Well then, that's a good place to be.



Lady B, Have you ever read "Siddhartha".......? It is on-line Free. (Good read)

crashdive123
08-01-2010, 09:16 PM
My preparations do not disrupt my (our) lives, but rather are just part of it. Mrs. Crash and I are of the same (nearly) mindset. I don't consider that we have sacrificed in order to prepare the way we have, but rather have grown accustomed to a particular lifestyle that we really enjoy. The security in knowing that we have prepared is very calming. That in and of itself will go a long way in taking care of ourselves. Hopefully that will allow us to continue to make good decisions rather than a knee jerk one that may not turn out to be so wise. We may not have some of the resources to do some of the things that we'd like to do, but we've done pretty good with the resources that we have. If nothing happens (not all that likely) the things that we have done will not go to waste.

BENESSE
08-01-2010, 09:21 PM
Lady B, Have you ever read "Siddhartha".......? It is on-line Free. (Good read)

It used to be my "Bible" when I was in school--still have the book on the shelf somewhere.
Might be time to revisit it. :)

Rick
08-01-2010, 09:43 PM
I don't believe in TEOTWAWKI. If that happens we're all dead anyway. I've never understood why folks believe that if there is an end of the world event they would be lucky enough (?) to survive while everyone else dies. Hello? It's the end of the world. We all die.

I do prepare for SHTF but not the end of the world. If I die, who cares? I have other places to be if that happens anyway.

Sourdough
08-01-2010, 09:58 PM
It used to be my "Bible" when I was in school--still have the book on the shelf somewhere.
Might be time to revisit it. :)


Still my "Bible", I aspire to read it once a year.

Sourdough
08-01-2010, 10:02 PM
I don't believe in TEOTWAWKI. If that happens we're all dead anyway. I've never understood why folks believe that if there is an end of the world event they would be lucky enough (?) to survive while everyone else dies. Hello? It's the end of the world. We all die.

I do prepare for SHTF but not the end of the world. If I die, who cares? I have other places to be if that happens anyway.


Sorry, but I disagree. If I got Blinded, paralyzed, legs amputated, or dozens of other events would "For Me" be TEOTWAIKI. The Professional Football player who gets paralyzed it is the end of his world as he knew it.
Be told you have cancer, and it is TEOTWAYKI.

Rick
08-02-2010, 03:05 AM
Semantics. A personally impacting event isn't generally considered to be the definition. TEOTWAWKI (Not you know it or I know it but we know it) is a collective event. While I agree that your scenarios are certainly life altering I don't think you'd "leave J W Rawles in the dust, I would have Massive Bunkers, 50 years of food. There would be no line. I would have huge ranches, (and a Woman) Fruit trees, stocked fish ponds, a private security company (Read small army)" for any of the situations you listed in the above post. Those are preps for asteroid, world economic collapse, pandemic, someone stole my attack geese type events. I don't bother planning for those. Who can live beyond the attack geese being stolen?

SARKY
08-02-2010, 04:52 AM
Miss B,
Rawles lives his lifestyle, so the question is then do you want to prepare or live the lifestyle? Can you make a living, living the lifestyle or do you need to make a living in order to prepare? For many, the survival retreat started out as a vacation home. Just some things to think about.

your_comforting_company
08-02-2010, 06:29 AM
Likewise, I'm not trying to go against the grain. My preparations are part of our southern lifestyle. All my life I remember putting food in storage and learning how to do things for ourselves. Many of the skills for me are like hobbies. I make them fun for me and others and rather than start panic and pandemonioum with doomsday prophecies, I make it a sort of "game". That gets people involved without knowing they are involved in my crazy ways.
The only way we've changed our lives is by simplifying the things we "want" and replacing those things with things we know we will need in the future whether SHTF or not. For us, it's more of a heritage way of life than some extreme modification to "normalcy" whatever that is...
And learning is fun! Nothing quite compares to getting your hands dirty and making something out of nothing. Small achievements, like friction fire, are extremely rewarding. Being able to cook a meal that can feed 6 people and spending NO money to do it is reward enough for me (of course I can't take credit for something I was blessed with).

If nothing ever happens.. the S never HTF and teotwawki never comes to pass, we will have modified our lives just enough to find more appreciation in the little things and overall a more fulfilling life.
There are some teotwawki that I couldn't possibly prepare for nor avoid should they come, and I don't spend time preparing for something I know we couldn't survive... like nuclear holocaust... I prepare for those events that are survivable.

Survival is not an extreme way of thinking.. It's hardwired into all of us. We call it "the will to live" and anyone who doesn't have at least some preparations for the future will be fodder and are living "against the grain" that is pre-programmed. In my way of thinking THAT is unnatural... not "setting something aside for tomorrow".
Remember the ant and the grasshopper fable?

BENESSE
08-02-2010, 07:49 AM
Miss B,
Rawles lives his lifestyle, so the question is then do you want to prepare or live the lifestyle? Can you make a living, living the lifestyle or do you need to make a living in order to prepare? For many, the survival retreat started out as a vacation home. Just some things to think about.

And therein lies the big quandary.
For me personally, living the Rawls lifestyle would be an extreme life choice which I'm not prepared to make nor do I think I could reasonably sustain. Rawls has found a way to make a decent living which affords him the set up he's got and the advantage of living there permanently. That's why I call him the gold standard and work down from that.
On a scale of 0-10...10 being Rawles, 0 being clueless and unprepared, I am sure I would rate low solely because of where I live-- a tough hadicap to work with. Not impossible by any stretch of the imagination, just more challenging than most.

Sourdough
08-02-2010, 08:29 AM
And therein lies the big quandary.


Ahhh, perfectly laid out in the first chapter of Richard Bach's: "illusions". The fear which compels us to grip tightly to the security of the current environment, and forfeit potential "BLISS" (or destruction).

BENESSE
08-02-2010, 08:59 AM
Ahhh, perfectly laid out in the first chapter of Richard Bach's: "illusions". The fear which compels us to grip tightly to the security of the current environment, and forfeit potential "BLISS" (or destruction).

We've done that once. 20 yrs ago we left the security of our then current environment for a 180 degree change with no guarantee that we'd actually like it or make it. Reason: jobs and more opportunity to "grow".
It was a very calculated decision for us. Not emotional in the least. At the stage of our lives, not taking chances with our livelihood (fiscal responsibility) is the foundation of preparedness, as we see it. It makes everything else that much stronger.

Winnie
08-02-2010, 09:08 AM
I'm not sure how this is going to go down, I am in no way prepared, nor do I want to prepare to survive TEOTWAWKI. SHTF is different, I have preps, not as good as they could be, they are definitely a work in progress. Other than that, I pretty agree with Rick

Rick
08-02-2010, 12:34 PM
And may I say I find Winnie quite an intelligent woman of impeccable taste.

Old GI
08-02-2010, 01:59 PM
What a suck up!!!!!:innocent:

Rick
08-02-2010, 02:30 PM
No she's not.

Winnie
08-02-2010, 03:14 PM
:):):innocent:

SARKY
08-03-2010, 01:13 PM
Miss B,
It's a matter of doing what you can with what you have. Make your plans and preperations. Go through as many disaster senarios as you can along with your responses to them. Be realistic about the out comes and adjust. It is the best you can do unless YOU control your enviroment.

BENESSE
08-03-2010, 01:19 PM
Thanks Sarky, that makes infinite sense.
The frustrating part is that the job is never done.

Rick
08-03-2010, 01:23 PM
And remember that no matter how iron clad your plan is something will always go wrong. The disaster doesn't know your plan so it won't follow it. Be prepared to improvise.

BENESSE
08-03-2010, 01:56 PM
Thinking about all the possibilities just makes my hair hurt.
I pine for the good ol' innocent & clueless times. Can't go back though...it'd be like unringing the bell.

finallyME
08-03-2010, 02:30 PM
I am trying to prepare for the biblical prophecies. But, I also believe slow and steady wins the race.

Rick
08-03-2010, 02:32 PM
I pine for the good ol' innocent & clueless times.

And when, pray tell, was that?

crashdive123
08-03-2010, 05:12 PM
And when, pray tell, was that?

Thursday....

Sourdough
08-03-2010, 06:22 PM
I pine for the good ol' innocent & clueless times. Can't go back though...it'd be like unringing the bell.


Yes, They say you never forget the first time........:innocent:

BENESSE
08-03-2010, 06:37 PM
Yes, They say you never forget the first time........:innocent:

No you don't.
I remember exactly where I was and what I was doing. 9/11/2001...9 am...the office conference room...35th floor... looking out the window.

SARKY
08-04-2010, 02:29 PM
Thinking about all the possibilities just makes my hair hurt.
I pine for the good ol' innocent & clueless times. Can't go back though...it'd be like unringing the bell.

You will find that most of the people around you go through life clueless. Don't let it over whelm you. Unless it is something so very catastrophic where noone and nothing that will survive, you will be in good shape to survive and thrive. Have you found anyone in your area that you can talk to about prepping and with whom you can band together?

BENESSE
08-04-2010, 02:43 PM
You will find that most of the people around you go through life clueless. Don't let it over whelm you. Unless it is something so very catastrophic where noone and nothing that will survive, you will be in good shape to survive and thrive. Have you found anyone in your area that you can talk to about prepping and with whom you can band together?

I'm afraid not. It's like looking for a polar bear in the Mojave desert.

crashdive123
08-04-2010, 05:42 PM
I'm afraid not. It's like looking for a polar bear in the Mojave desert.

:innocent:

http://www.globalwarmingisbs.com/images/Polar_Bear_Desert.jpg

BENESSE
08-04-2010, 05:51 PM
Now that I see it, it would be even harder than that.

Scaru
08-05-2010, 07:18 AM
I agree with winnie and rick when shtf happens i plain on surviving but i do not plan on surviving teotwawki

SARKY
08-05-2010, 10:40 AM
What is the end of the world as you know it??? Almost half the US population lives in the "city states". For them, teotwawki means no more entitlements, lack of runnig water, no cable tv, no garbage pickup, no fast food. It simply isn't the same for everyone. Is it the actual end of the world?????? I don't know!

BENESSE
08-05-2010, 01:57 PM
As far as I'm concerned, TEOTWAWKI would be a scenario from the books "Patriots" or "The Road". Or any number of Hollywood movies that always seem to take place in NYC and have some dose of reality to them. And no, I'm not preparing for it because I simply can't. Some things are just not worth surviving at any cost.

Sourdough
08-05-2010, 02:11 PM
Some things are just not worth surviving at any cost.


Including some marriages...........

BENESSE
08-05-2010, 02:18 PM
Sounds like you survived it OK, if a little jaded.

kyratshooter
08-05-2010, 03:08 PM
This has been an unusually civil and well thought out exchange.

I feel our level of prepardness for any life hardship diminished to zero during the 1970s. I grew up with mom canning all summer. We kids helped. Often we spent the entire hot summer day (No AC) shelling peas, breaking beans, shucking corn. I do not mean a pan full, I am talking 200 DOZEN ears of corn or the old Buick Roadmaster loaded up like a pickup with lima beans; trunk, backseat and mom hanging out the window to drive.

Autumn started with 300 quarts of tomatoes on the shelves, another 300 quarts of green beans, and about that much more corn, limas, peas. There was half a beef and a whold hog in the freezer. Flour was purchased by the 50lb bag. and bread was a 20 loaf a week trip to the day old store.

We were not survivalists, we lived in the suburbs and my Dad was a pacifist, theology prof. That was just what people that had lived through the Great Depression did as a normal course of life. We had kerosene lamps for when the lights went out. Extra quilts (mom made them too) for when it got cold.

They knew things were not always good and not always fair, and no one was going to pull your fat out of the fire. They were normal.

Now if you have enough food to last more than a week you are abnormal? By what definition?

As far as surviving TEOTWAWKI; some one will survive and they will be the base the world builds on. It can be someone that prepared and had good sense or it can be Forest Gump.

Some things I would not want to live through, but some things I have prepared to live through for my whole life. My experiences in life tell me that those are the thing that are going to happen, they will happen at the worst possible time and I will be there, fully conscious and feeling all the searing pain available. I will live throught it, even though I do not want too. I have spent my whole life miserable, why shoud I miss TEOTWAWKI?

No, I do not intend to be the one that repopulates the earth. I do not cling to life at all costs. I am not genetically superior to anyone and do not wish to set up my own feudal state.

I can hope only to be the teacher of practical and ethical wisdom. The trainer of the stupid in how life was before the Carter administration when we canned food, butchered meat and learned to do math without a calcualtor.

How is young dufus going to figure out how to cut a rafter if he has to have a picture of the hamburger on the cash register key?

Rick
08-05-2010, 06:34 PM
Welllllll......most exchanges are pretty civil around here. That's one of the reasons I like it so much. You can yack about anything and still buy each other a beer at the end.

At the same time you were shelling beans I'll bet Johny was at ball practice and Suzy was watching him play. Fast forward to today....There are still kids out there shelling beans and framing lumber. Probably not as many shelling beans because there aren't as many family farms and our food production capability has increase dramatically. We do only what we have to do not matter what generation we're talking about.

By the way, if I help you set up that Feudal state would you be interested then? You could have a fancy title.

kyratshooter
08-05-2010, 09:57 PM
Depends on how many peasant women you can bring and what they look like!

I don't need a big title, just address me by my present label, "The Wise Exhaulted One".

BENESSE
08-05-2010, 10:28 PM
Depends on how many peasant women you can bring and what they look like!


Do they have to be peasant or just clueless?:)

SARKY
08-06-2010, 03:12 PM
Is that peasant or plesant women???

Winnie
08-06-2010, 04:18 PM
Just so long as it's not pheasant:innocent:

SARKY
08-06-2010, 08:32 PM
but pheasant women are tasty!

BENESSE
08-06-2010, 09:45 PM
but pheasant women are tasty!

Yeah, especially after you shoot them dead.
With peasants it might be a little harder, and certainly not pleasant.

SARKY
08-07-2010, 04:29 AM
Yeah, especially after you shoot them dead.
With peasants it might be a little harder, and certainly not pleasant.

yumm!!! long pig!!! just need some barbeque sauce!

SARKY
08-07-2010, 04:34 AM
Miss B,
So you really have no one that you can group up with if tshtf? what about off of Manhattan island? Any friends on Long Island or Jersey or any where within traveling range? I had decided to stay on the east coast, I probably would have inherited my granmothers place in Fort Lee. You would have been welcome there.

BENESSE
08-07-2010, 11:27 AM
My social circle is fairly superficial and mostly consists of really good acquaintances and colleagues. Drinks, dinner, brunch, show, that kind of thing. Shared interests and confidences don't run deep, conversations are light.
Broaching the "preparedness" issue beyond the usual--enough batteries and plenty of water, would be akin to asking if they'd accepted JC as their personal lord and savior. You just know you shouldn't, not with this crowd.
The only two really good friends who I'd known from before moving to NYC are of the mind that whatever happens happens they don't want to dwell on the negative. (!!!?) I love them, but if my life depended on them I'd be in worse shape than if I were alone.
So I don't know. I suspect that people who think like I do on this particular issue hang out in circles different from mine and the two will probably never intersect unless tshtf. That's just how NYC is.
Hierarchical and territorial.

SARKY
08-07-2010, 04:13 PM
That is just crazy. Having grown up in NYC, most of my elders lived through the depression and WWII. Survival and self sufficiency was always a topic of discussion.

crashdive123
08-07-2010, 04:18 PM
B - I don't know if this program is worthwhile, but it might be worth looking into. http://www.empowermentinstitute.net/atn/index.html

BENESSE
08-07-2010, 04:31 PM
Thanks Crash, I'll definitely look into it. A great resource I didn't know about.

BENESSE
08-07-2010, 04:46 PM
That is just crazy. Having grown up in NYC, most of my elders lived through the depression and WWII. Survival and self sufficiency was always a topic of discussion.

The same was true with our parents and grandparents. But we are transplants and all our family is scattered to the four corners of the earth, none of them in NY or even any neighboring states.
People who stayed put where they grew up have a big advantage of a wide support group. YCC & Erratus Animus come to mind. No such luck here.
That was never an issue for us before our new awareness set in. Manhattan was perfect for what we've come her to accomplish until things happen to make us recalibrate our strategy.

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