And So It Begins

[crashdive123]

It is time to get into better physical condition. I have always struggled with managing my weight, but have been very active. I have had a few physical injuries over the last few years that have slowed down much of that activity, plus the fact that I ain’t getting any younger. Over the weekend I aggravated an old knee injury that has probably been compounded by my weight. It is almost embarrassing to say it, but I figure that I say it out loud (or type it for all to see) it will help me to quit fooling myself. Today I tipped the scales at 310. Today the change in lifestyle begins. I have an appointment tomorrow with my doc to check out the knee (and the opposite ankle). My initial goal, which I am sure I will adjust, is to lose 100 pounds. I am going to use this thread to remind me, and to chart my progress. I have no illusions about the difficulty of the changes I am making, but make them I must. Wish me luck.

[Rick]

I do wish you luck. I've started down the same course so we'll cheer each other on!!

[Winnie]

Best of luck. I'm sure you'll manage just fine.

[Pal334]

A leaner , meaner Crash, Just what the world needs :online2long:
But on a serious note, is a great goal, and you may even encourage me to be a bit more serious .

I won't say Good luck, but will say work hard.

[BENESSE]

:clap::clap::clap:
Hang in and stay strong! I'll be cheering for you every step of the way.

[RangerXanatos]

Great goals! Just don't start off to hard, we don't want you to hurt yourself.

[preachtheWORD]

Good luck, my friend. I'm fighting the battle of the bulge with you. I got back on the basketball court for the first time in a long while and I felt like my feet were glued to the floor. A big part of survival - of just surviving everyday life - is physical fitness. That is a survival tool that I wan to have.

[Sourdough]

Me also, I more or less started two weeks ago when I moved back into my shack. I weighed the most I have ever weighed this last winter, (DAMN sitting around watching the T.V.thingie & doing nothing). I clocked in at 232.5 pounds the day I move. But I have been doing one or two hikes per-day.

Crash, you know what else sucks........the older you get the shorter you get...:tongue_smilie::tongue_smilie:

[Justin Case]

Good Luck ! Ya Know its kind funny this comes up now, A Few Days ago I decided to try and control how much I Eat ,, I dont like this pot belly, So I began Drinking a full Glass of water before Right before I had Dinner,, And I swear ,I am only eating half as much as I did before, This (Water) Is an Excellent way to control your portion size each meal, and Much easier than "Sweatin to the Oldies" :)

[hunter63]

Crash, you know what else sucks........the older you get the shorter you get...:tongue_smilie::tongue_smilie:

The reason for that is not paying your "gravity bill", eventually, you will stop moving and it will suck you into the ground............KEEP MOVING.....
Hang in there boys, can't say weight is a problem for me, but I got a lot of other stuff I should work on.

[huntermj]

Good luck Crash!
If you need more insperation to get healthy just go have a full physical and im sure your doc will give you some. Mine did just recently:blushing:

[Camp10]

Good luck Crash! I wish you the best with the knee as well.

[Rick]

Ha!!!! That's funny. When I go to the doctor they ask, "How tall are you?" I say, "You want the height of me when I was 20 or now?"

[BENESSE]

Ha!!!! That's funny. When I go to the doctor they ask, "How tall are you?" I say, "You want the height of me when I was 20 or now?"

As long as you're walking tall, that's all that matters.

[2dumb2kwit]

I'm with ya, crash.....and huntermj is right, about the doctors. I think mine makes stuff up, every time I go to his office. I'm in the same boat as a couple of you. My quest is to get in good enough shape, that when I visit my doctor three months from now, he will OK me not taking anymore meds. I'm border line, on blood pressure, and on blood sugar. He has me on meds, but I know if I get in better shape, I won't need them.

And for the record, crash, I had gotten to just over 280.:blushing:

[tipacanoe]

Crash, just think about how good you will look in that thong when you get it back from Ken.

[crashdive123]

Crash, just think about how good you will look in that thong when you get it back from Ken.

Ummmmm. That's Ricks, and what he and Ken do with it is between them.

[Rick]

Oh, come on, Crash. We'll share it. It will look like a couple of potatoes in a sack race.

[huntermj]

i just thew up a little in my mouth

[crashdive123]

i just thew up a little in my mouth

Don't eat it! Twice the calories and all.:innocent:

[huntermj]

No, once the calories just twice the grose.

[2dumb2kwit]

No, once the calories just twice the grose.

Yeah....but it has that added acid kick, the second time! LOL:innocent:

[tipacanoe]

If nothing else, this site does make you smile, and smiles are good for survival

[your_comforting_company]

I'd wish you luck, but I don't think you need it. Instead I'll say Good Decision, and stick to it. You know you have a large support group here. We can't do all the exercises with you, but if you need ideas, or just a vote of confidence, you know you can call on us.
Good job. If I have one recommendation, though, set your goal much lower.. like 10 lbs. That way you have shorter gaps between "progress" and you can keep a much better outlook.
Have you figured out your plan of attack yet? protein shakes and raw eggs? yoga? Kama Sutra?

[Pict]

Crash,

Good on you! I'm going to join you.

Before we came to Brazil (99) I had been travelling for two years raising support, eating out alot and eating in peoples homes I got up to my lifetime high of 225. Brazil is very good to me weight wise and after being here a year I was down to 205, but very out of shape.

Back in 2003 I got real serious about my condition and joined a gym. After a year of that I was up to five days a week for 1.5 hours. I was down to a very solid 185 and felt fantastic.

Some milestones:

I was headed out for a four day trip and stepped on the scale to weight my pack. The pack weighed 26 pounds but the scale read my former weight. I can't tell you how cool it was to set that pack down and realize I had been carrying it for years.

I had to take the bus home from church down town. I had to switch to a different bus halfway and got off at the wrong stop. My actual stop was three blocks away and since it was very late with few busses running I was in danger of missing the bus. I sprinted the three blocks. I arrived at the stop, took two deep breaths and felt totally normal. A year before I would have been puking.

I said all that to say this, I weigh 205 pounds right now and need to get serious again. I'm 44, it ain't going to happen on its own.

Mac

[crashdive123]

Thanks all, and to all that are embarking on their own journeys - good luck to you. I'll keep you posted.

[nell67]

Good luck Crash!

[Pict]

OK, I went for a long walk and saw 12 toucans. That was encouraging. Mac

[nell67]

OK, I went for a long walk and saw 12 toucans. That was encouraging. Mac
Sure it wasn't 2 six packs Mac??? Just kidding,those are beautiful birds!

[Pict]

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I took this shot a few years ago out the bedroom window. Toucans are really neat birds they make this funny craaak-craaak-craaak sound. They fly straight as an arrow but can make right angle turns in the air. They just point that beak in a new direction and turn on a dime. Mac

[Ole WV Coot]

Good Luck, I have held 200+ or - 10lbs for twenty years but like Rick said, guess I cut out on too many poles and shrunk some. When I retired in '96 I had to cut back on the chow. I think you can make it, and I understand the knees well, occupational hazard for me.

[nell67]

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I took this shot a few years ago out the bedroom window. Toucans are really neat birds they make this funny craaak-craaak-craaak sound. They fly straight as an arrow but can make right angle turns in the air. They just point that beak in a new direction and turn on a dime. Mac

Love it! I would be a little in shock to see that fellow outside my window!

[Sourdough]

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/8281/img192311282852.jpg Mac


NOW that is a BIG Pecker..........:innocent::innocent::innocent:

[kyratshooter]

I have a confession. In Jan I hit 60 and I have given up.

I have had weight issues all my life. Not obese, just too heavy. I have fought to be what some skinny jerk said I should weigh for 50 of my 60 years. I have come to the conclusiion that TRYING to control my weight puts so much stress on me it keeps my blood preasure elevated.

Then there was the heart attack. That came during one of the skinny periods. Should not have happened! Just had a checkup and the Doc bragged on me for all the weight loss, stopped smoking, and good habits!!

BAMM!!! Three stints and four baloons and 6 days in CIC. Heart not working on its own for 3 days.

Then they blind sided me. The meds.

Every med they put me on had the side effect of weight gain. Here they were giving me meds that crashed my metabolism and telling me I was gaining weight due to over eating. I was gaining weight on a 1,000 calorie a day diet.

Final straw was when the 5'2", 250 lb nurse told me the problem was my lack of strigent heart healthy eating habits.

My present to me for my 60th birthday was that I finaml gave myself permission to not give a $&!* what the height weight or body mass index chart says.

Guess what! I have lost 10 pounds since my birthday. BP is back to normal.

[BENESSE]

My present to me for my 60th birthday was that I finaml gave myself permission to not give a $&!* what the height weight or body mass index chart says.

Guess what! I have lost 10 pounds since my birthday. BP is back to normal.

Way to go kyrat!!! However you get there is a good thing.
Your story reminds me of what some couples go through trying to get pregnant. After all the stress, expense, side effects and no results, they give up. They finally relax. Get their life back. They decide to adopt. Then they get pregnant and have a baby. :)
Sometimes you've got to get your mind on track for the body to follow.

[Pict]

If you feel good and can do what matters to you then who cares what the charts say? The charts tell me I should weigh 170 IIRC. I haven't weighed that since 9th grade! I ran on the treadmill like a freakin' gerbil for a year and couldn't get below 185. I had a six pack...still buried under a slab of bacon but I felt great.

It's not just women that get sucked into the body image thing. I came to the conclusion that I have enough abs to keep my guts from falling out and that's their job. I'm going to the bush for two days. I know that when I'm in better shape I enjoy it more and that's what it's all about.

Mac

[Rick]

I still wear the same size pants I did in the 8th grade. I just wear them a lot lower.

[2dumb2kwit]

OK, I went for a long walk and saw 12 toucans. That was encouraging. Mac

So, you saw 24 cans?:innocent: LOL

[Ken]

Wow, Crash, you weigh almost double what I do. :innocent:

Good luck, buddy! It's the late night snacks that'll kill ya'.

Remember I dropped 30 lbs. earlier this year? I've only gained 2 of them back. A few suggestions:

Oatmeal

Blueberries

Salmon

Hard Boiled Eggs

A few Almonds each day

Yogurt - or at least two servings of dairy (not cheese) each day

High Fiber V-8 juice. Fiber is critical.

V-8 Fusion Light

Take a good multi-vitamin every day.

Pig out one day - BUT ONLY ONE DAY - a week, but not more than you do now. If you don't, you will be miserable and walk away from any diet within a couple of weeks.

Eat a 500 calorie breakfast, even if you normally don't eat in the morning.

No snacking 3 hours before bed.

.........and exercise every morning to get that metabolism cranked up for the day.

I know you can do it! :)

[Ken]

And WATER! Drink at least 2 quarts a day.

[cowgirlup]

Crash, keep us posted. I'm right there trying to lose. But, it is not coming off. I think it's an age thing. Plus 2 rounds of prednisone this winter didn't help. Then there is the stress eating. :(

So, I'll be following this for inspitration!!!

[DOGMAN]

good luck Crash. Stick too it, and remember it doesnt come off overnight. It took years to get there, it will take a while to get back. Don't give up, just take small steps...but keep steppin'

[crashdive123]

The first week has passed, and I have one more week of the "fat flush" before I start eating the way I plan to for a long time. My goal as I started was to lose 100 pounds, and I wanted to average about 2 pounds a week. I knew that the first week would be a bigger number (wish I could do it every week), but then would get down closer to my 2 pound a week goal. Today I got weighed in at 296, for a loss of 14 pounds.

[Winnie]

Wow! good for you!

[Rick]

Congrats!! That's quite an accomplishment.

[BENESSE]

Today I got weighed in at 296, for a loss of 14 pounds.

Godamighty! You're starting with a bang and
you've got to feel great about that.
An example to us all!

[Sourdough]

Congratulations Crash.........Well done. I have only lost 11 pounds in three weeks.

[hunter63]

Hey, congrats, that's a good start!

[Pict]

Good night, if I got results like that I'd be close to done! Fat flush, that has to be brutal.

My weight doesn't count right now because I went to the bush and didn't eat much. I know I lost some but it's probably mostly intestinal.

That's an impressive start and a realistic goal. Good job.

Mac

[nell67]

Thats GREAT Crash,I hate you......:sneaky2:

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

6 lbs lost
20 lbs total
80 lbs to reach initial goal

[BENESSE]

Today's weigh in:

6 lbs lost
20 lbs total
80 lbs to reach initial goal

You are moving at a nice clip and it has to be gratifying to see so much progress so quickly.
How do you feel?

[crashdive123]

Other than the knee - better.

[BENESSE]

Other than the knee - better.

Have you ever watched The Biggest Looser?
The transformation some people go through are truly miraculous--inside and out.

[crashdive123]

I have not. Probably because I refused to face my own reality.

[nell67]

Thats great Crash!

[your_comforting_company]

Great work Crash. Keep it up. At this rate, you'll reach your goal in no time!

I'm curious about your exercises. I know your knee limits what you can do (no jumping jacks, etc.) and I was just wondering about alternative exercises you are doing that don't strain your knee.

[Sourdough]

Today's weigh in:

6 lbs lost
20 lbs total
80 lbs to reach initial goal


Well Done, congratulations.

[Winnie]

That's brilliant Crash!

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

3 lbs lost
23l bs total
77 lbs to reach initial goal

[nell67]

Way to go,keep it up Crash!

[Sourdough]

Great, Congratulations. Are you doing much walking or it it too hot this time of year......?

[crashdive123]

Great, Congratulations. Are you doing much walking or it it too hot this time of year......?

Unfortunately not any other than working. I'm riding a stationary bike (no resistance) for a little bit every day, but that is to keep the fluid down on my knee. MRI is on the 14th. The Ortho doc thinks (won't know for sure until after the MRI) a fairly minor orthoscopic surgury will fix it, with a fairly short recovery time. I hope he's right, I miss my walks dagnabit.

It is hot, but I just drink a lot of water - probably why I'm so anal about storing so much water in case of emergency.

[Winnie]

Keep up the good work!

[BENESSE]

That's impressive, Crash.
Isn't it like a gift to get up on that scale and see lbs slip away?

[huntermj]

Well Crash Hows it going?
really, i hope it's going well.
Sometimes there will be a slowdown in weight lose after the first week or two.
just keep doing what your doing and it will all work out.

[Sourdough]

That's impressive, Crash.
Isn't it like a gift to get up on that scale and see lbs slip away?


Exception being TEOTWAWKI:) Then weight is you friend.

[crashdive123]

Well Crash Hows it going?
really, i hope it's going well.
Sometimes there will be a slowdown in weight lose after the first week or two.
just keep doing what your doing and it will all work out.

Life is good. Starting to get a little more mobile. MRI is today - follow-up next week.

[BENESSE]

Exception being TEOTWAWKI:) Then weight is you friend.

It's not your friend if you can't haul a$$ when you need to. Or when you get a heart attack trying to. Or a stroke that leaves you paralyzed. Or any number of things that won't be diagnosed until it's too late. It's more probable that those things would take place before your fat becomes your friend. Now if you're a gambling man and the high stakes excite you, I'd say have another piece of that fried dough. :)

[Rick]

Yeah, but you can roll downhill faster and gather no moss.

[BENESSE]

Yeah, but you can roll downhill faster and gather no moss.

You'll also be harder to kidnap.

[Rick]

and make a great harbor buoy. You just need a hat with a bell.

[Justin Case]

and make a great harbor buoy. You just need a hat with a bell.

LOL,,, Thats FUNNY ! "ding ding" :innocent:

[hunter63]

All joking aside, congrats for seeing a potential problem and taking hard steps to correct it.
Way to go, hang in there................

[rebel]

Outstanding results with the weight loss. Keep it up. Good luck w/ the MRI today.

[kyratshooter]

It's not your friend if you can't haul a$$ when you need to. Or when you get a heart attack trying to. Or a stroke that leaves you paralyzed. Or any number of things that won't be diagnosed until it's too late. It's more probable that those things would take place before your fat becomes your friend. Now if you're a gambling man and the high stakes excite you, I'd say have another piece of that fried dough. :)

That makes sense on the surface, and is true for morbid obesity, but not in reality. As in any conflict SHTF will result in more deaths due to bad water, disease and starvation than from not properly dodging bullets. Thanks to the receint research in treating anorexia, and the records kept by Doctors during the Warsaw Getto uprisings and concentration camp horrors, we can confirm what most have long suspected.

During a disaster the person that goes in with extra weight lasts longer than his or her skinny friends. Espically when a population is starved interntionally or by default.

Calories in, calories out. How many times have we heard it? 20 extra pounds will get you 30 extra days.

[BENESSE]

That makes sense on the surface, and is true for morbid obesity, but not in reality. As in any conflict SHTF will result in more deaths due to bad water, disease and starvation than from not properly dodging bullets. Thanks to the receint research in treating anorexia, and the records kept by Doctors during the Warsaw Getto uprisings and concentration camp horrors, we can confirm what most have long suspected.

During a disaster the person that goes in with extra weight lasts longer than his or her skinny friends. Espically when a population is starved interntionally or by default.

Calories in, calories out. How many times have we heard it? 20 extra pounds will get you 30 extra days.

I haven't heard that one but would hazard a guess that it could be true especially if you sat on your behind all day and were generally in good shape.

[rebel]

How'd it go today Crash? I've started posting low cal meals. I hope that helps.

[crashdive123]

It went well. Took several hours though. First was a couple of x-rays of the eyes (because of the chance of a spec of steel from knife making) then two MRI's. Appointment on the 21st to find out what's next. I think I'll be going for a walk in the woods (slowly) before then.

I've noticed the recipes. Thanks. I am not counting calories for the way I'm eating. Just making wiser choices and weighing/measuring portions.

[rebel]

It went well. Took several hours though. First was a couple of x-rays of the eyes (because of the chance of a spec of steel from knife making) then two MRI's. Appointment on the 21st to find out what's next. I think I'll be going for a walk in the woods (slowly) before then.

I've noticed the recipes. Thanks. I am not counting calories for the way I'm eating. Just making wiser choices and weighing/measuring portions.

Were you wearing goggles? I learned the hard way when they belt broke, grabbed the knife and started on me. Yea, I'm still purdy according to this Mrs.

[crashdive123]

Whenever I'm grinding I wear safety glasses and a face shield. This was just a precaution they take with anybody that works around metal. Finding out that you have a sliver of steel in your eye after you get in the giant magnet would not be a good thing.

[rebel]

Whenever I'm grinding I wear safety glasses and a face shield. This was just a precaution they take with anybody that works around metal. Finding out that you have a sliver of steel in your eye after you get in the giant magnet would not be a good thing.

I'm glad you have good eye protection. For everyone else, please don't take chances.

[Pict]

Glad to hear you're sticking with it. I'm down to 199 but a week long training session in Sao Paulo at a hotel didn't do me any good at all as far as weight is concerned! What an artificial lifestyle that is. Big spread for breakfast, sit for several hours in a strategic planning session, coffee break with pastry and temptation, more meeting, break for lunch, answer e-mail, more meetings, huge dinner.

Mac

[rudyumans]

Crash, you're a brave man. One of the tricks is not to eat less, but to spread it out over the whole day in smaller portions. Eating less, as some people suggested, or worse skip a meal, is not good.

It could also be a testosterone depletion I understand.

[Sourdough]

Reporting in @ 208# that is down from 232# just five weeks ago. Still hoping for 199# by July 4'th.:)

[BENESSE]

Reporting in @ 208# that is down from 232# just five weeks ago. Still hoping for 199# by July 4'th.:)

Congrats!
Is your secret those rancid ramens or is there something else?

[Sourdough]

Congrats!
Is your secret those rancid ramens or is there something else?

It is just summer lifestyle, more and longer hikes.

[crashdive123]

Reporting in @ 208# that is down from 232# just five weeks ago. Still hoping for 199# by July 4'th.:)

Outstanding!

[tonester]

its awesome to see all this weight loss here! good job guys! i recently lost weight also, i went from 240 to 170 in 6 months. had to look good for my wedding and have the academy coming up!

[crashdive123]

Great job Tonester!

Today's weigh in:

2 lbs lost
25 bs total
75 lbs to reach initial goal

[BENESSE]

You Go Crash!!!!!

[Rick]

Good job!!

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

4 lbs lost
29 bs total
71 lbs to reach initial goal

[Rick]

Outstanding!! I sense a new diet book on the horizon. Crash Diet!

[Sourdough]

Congratulations Crash, keep up the GOOD work.

[BENESSE]

Atttaboy, Crash!!!!
If that's not sticking with the program, I don't know what is.

[Winnie]

Great News! Downhill is a good place when you're dieting:)

[LowKey]

Crash you inspire me as well. Well, and having to work out in the shop the last couple of weeks doing the physical part of my job and just dripping sweat until it literally looks like I've been swimming. The other guys who are used to working out there don't let up on me either.

Funny, I haven't gained weight though. Just redistributed mass to all the wrong places in the last two years because of my back. The back is fairly good now so no excuse anymore.

I've got the refridge cleaned out and am following the same diet plan Ken listed, which I know works for me when there isn't ice cream and crap around. Want to get from a 38 waist back to a 34 again and re-build the upper body. I'm a little guy, 5'-4" at 184. Let's see where it goes.

Keep going Crash. You can do it.

[Rick]

Wait. You eat crap? I think that right there is your problem. I'd stick with just the ice cream. No more crap ala mode for you, mister.

[crashdive123]

Watching too much Bear Grylls.

[LowKey]

yeah, it's a vicious cycle. Crap in, crap out...:sneaky2:

No I mean crap like Twinkies, Girl Scout cookies, you know, the things you horde in your freezer and don't even wait for em to thaw...

[Rick]

Did he just call Twinkies crap?! Sacrilege. A lightening bolt is headed your way for sure.

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

1 lb lost
30 bs total
70 lbs to reach initial goal

[BENESSE]

Go Crash!!!!

[your_comforting_company]

Way to go brother! Keep up the great work!

[Beans]

Today's weigh in:

6 lbs lost
20 lbs total
80 lbs to reach initial goal

Too bad you don't live closer, we could go get a pizza and a pitcher of beer to celerbrate. NOT! :tongue_smilie:

[Sourdough]

206# today
started at 232# May 7'th

Loss: 26#

Target: Was 199# by July 4'th (Not looking good):innocent:

[crashdive123]

Yeah, but you're a heck of a lot closer than when you started. Well done.

[BENESSE]

206# today
started at 232# May 7'th

Loss: 26#

Target: Was 199# by July 4'th (Not looking good):innocent:

That's great! You're so close, I can taste it.
We're talking mere 7lbs by the 4th. Not bad at all. :)

[oly]

Ha!!!! That's funny. When I go to the doctor they ask, "How tall are you?" I say, "You want the height of me when I was 20 or now?"

I blame it on the cold weather that effects things.

Oh we are talking about crash, doing good and keep going.

[LowKey]

Did he just call Twinkies crap?! Sacrilege. A lightening bolt is headed your way for sure.

:innocent:

[crimescene450]

one thing i do are 'commercial exercises' and 'microwave exercises'

whenever im watching tv, and a commercial comes on, i usually do pushups for one whole commercial. then rest the next commercial, then pushups the next, etc. You could switch in any exercise though


and when im microwaving something for a few minutes, i do counter top pushups

theyre pretty easy, but after 4 mins of doing them youll get tired. othertimes i hold my arms out (so my body is like a T) and hold them up for the entire microwave time.


its a good way to sneak in some exercise when you feel like you might not have too much time

[BENESSE]

Excellent idea, CS. Every little bit helps and it adds up.
It seems that even 10min. 3X a day is as good as 30min a day--something I wasn't sure about.

[vintage712]

Yeah, I'm not terribly active on this board but it's on my "check-every-day" list for good reading.

Crash, you've motivated this 6'5/360lb dude to get off the couch and on the trails. And maybe off the soda/crap diet as well. Thanks for puttin yourself out there - keep it up sir.

[crashdive123]

Good luck Vintage712.

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

3 lbs lost
33 bs total
67 lbs to reach initial goal

[Rick]

Partner, you are doing great!! I know it's tough but you are doing just fine.

[nell67]

Great job Crash!! I am not dieting per se,but 2 weeks ago I bought 2 new pair of shorts in a size 6,now I am gonna have to get a belt to keep them up,think it may have something to do with the heat.

Don't have a set of scales,so not sure how much I have lost.

[BENESSE]

Great job Crash!! I am not dieting per se,but 2 weeks ago I bought 2 new pair of shorts in a size 6,now I am gonna have to get a belt to keep them up,think it may have something to do with the heat.

Don't have a set of scales,so not sure how much I have lost.

Who needs a scale when your size 6 shorts are loose on you? That's all you need to know.
Whatever you weren't doing per se...keep it up! :)

[BENESSE]

Today's weigh in:

3 lbs lost
33 bs total
67 lbs to reach initial goal

That's serious progress.
The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step", comes to mind. You are an inspiration, Crash!

[nell67]

Who needs a scale when your size 6 shorts are loose on you? That's all you need to know.
Whatever you weren't doing per se...keep it up! :)LOL,right now,keeping my shorts up seems to be the problem!:blushing::blushing::blushing:

I did drop from a size 10,to a size 6 on purpose,and just kinda was happy with that,who knows,maybe I WILL see a size 3 again someday!

[Sourdough]

Todays weigh-in:

weight: 208.5#

A Gain of 2# (Damn you Crash, sending me that book, and I spent two and a half day sitting on my butt just reading, yes it was a good book.)

Clearly missed target of 199# by July 4'th.

[BENESSE]

Todays weigh-in:

weight: 208.5#

A Gain of 2# (Damn you Crash, sending me that book, and I spent two and a half day sitting on my butt just reading, yes it was a good book.)

Clearly missed target of 199# by July 4'th.

What happened with all that hole digging and cement?

[BENESSE]

LOL,right now,keeping my shorts up seems to be the problem!:blushing::blushing::blushing:

I did drop from a size 10,to a size 6 on purpose,and just kinda was happy with that,who knows,maybe I WILL see a size 3 again someday!

Boots on the ground say, seeing it is easier than wearing it. But definitely possible! Look at Crash.

[Sourdough]

What happened with all that hole digging and cement?

Back at it yesterday, I had a disabled left hand for three days (Saturday through Monday).

In all fairness to Crash I should note that I am not dieting, and any weight loss is a function of summer lifestyle vs. winter lifestyle.

[crashdive123]

I'm not dieting either. Just changed the way eat, and plan on continuing with it for the foreseeable future.

[Aurelius95]

For some reason, today is the first day I have read this thread. Anyway, congrats to you Crash, and Sourdough, as well as others motivated to lose some weight. I agree, it's a lifestyle change, as well as making healthy eating choices that make the most difference (long term). Keep it up!

[Sourdough]

July, 13'th

202# (Wow, that was nice drop of 4 pounds)

199 (Interim target weight)
________

3 pounds to go.....:)

[crashdive123]

July, 13'th

202# (Wow, that was nice drop of 4 pounds)

199 (Interim target weight)
________

3 pounds to go.....:)

That's great! Woo Hoo!

[Rick]

Great job. No more living in house for you, mister.

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

2 lbs lost
35 bs total
65 lbs to reach initial goal

[nell67]

Awesome both Crash and Sourdough!

[Sourdough]

Good progress, Crash.

[Rick]

You guys are sure doing a fine job. Keep it up!!!! At this rate you might have to add an anchor to your preps just to keep from being blown away in a stiff wind.

[nell67]

Hey ximike,how about weighing in over at the introduction thread,and telling us a little about yourself?

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=14


Thanks

[crashdive123]

xmike has left the building. He was one of those outsourced jobs that leave the country and end up in India.

[Rick]

Yeah, but I'm impressed with how much weight he lost when you hit the Enter key.

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

0 lbs lost
35 bs total
65 lbs to reach initial goal

[Winnie]

Well, the totals good! There's bound to be times when you come to a halt for a week, may even find you put a pound or two on sometimes. hope not though.

[kyratshooter]

I have a lunch appointment at the Cheesecake Factory, see you guys latter.:drool:

The group is meeting to discuss the upcomming famine and proper preperations for it.

Yes, I am an evil person.

[crashdive123]

I have a lunch appointment at the Cheesecake Factory, see you guys latter.:drool:

The group is meeting to discuss the upcomming famine and proper preperations for it.

Yes, I am an evil person.

I love their Kobe Beef burgers.

[Rick]

Ahem (straightens collar). As long as Crash is "on the wagon" so to speak, you should fee free to forward any cheesecake to me for an impartial Quality Review. I'm your friend.

[crashdive123]

What the.....

Why I never......

You've got some....

Oh heck - why not?

[Rick]

What the.....Self explaining.

Why I never......Yes, you have.

You've got some....Not yet, but I have hope he'll send it.

Oh heck - why not? There you have it. It Binanimous! Both of us agree. Send it to me!!!

[your_comforting_company]

Great job so far Crash. 35 lbs is quite a load off... 65 lbs is a bundle of shingles, just sayin'. I agree with Winnie, not that I've ever been on anything less than a see-food diet, but I know lots of people have breaks in the loss.. it's your body adjusting to having less food. It's how you know your body is adapting and changing. Metabolism has to meet up with intake/output somewhere, so just take it in stride. You're doing great!

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

2 lbs lost
37 bs total
63 lbs to reach initial goal

[nell67]

Great job Crash!

[BENESSE]

Go Crash, Go!
You might as well start composing that letter to Santa, because by Christmas, you're gonna need all new clothes.

[Sourdough]

Good job, Crash. I seem to be stuck at 202# which is where I've been for three weeks.

[crashdive123]

Good job, Crash. I seem to be stuck at 202# which is where I've been for three weeks.

Maybe 202 is where you are supposed to be.

[Sourdough]

After a hard day shoveling dirt, swinging a "madic", and no lunch, and most likely dehydrated..........I just (3:58 PM) weighted in at a svelte 199 pounds.

[Rick]

I weigh 199. I weigh a damn site more but I do weigh 199.

[BENESSE]

After a hard day shoveling dirt, swinging a "madic", and no lunch, and most likely dehydrated..........I just (3:58 PM) weighted in at a svelte 199 pounds.

You hit the nail on the head, most likely!

[crashdive123]

I did a pretty big termite job today. I drank a little over a gallon of water during the six hours the job took. I didn't drink enough.

[Justin Case]

I weigh 260, But i am 10 feet tall :innocent:

[BENESSE]

I weigh 260, But i am 10 feet tall :innocent:

How's that working out for you?

[Justin Case]

How's that working out for you?

not too good, I am afraid of heights :blushing:

[2dumb2kwit]

I weigh 260, But i am 10 feet tall :innocent:

I'm down to 268, from 283....and I'm only 6'1"-6'4". (Depending on which convience store I'm leaving.) :tongue_smilie:

[BENESSE]

You guys are all doing great.
I hope to see the "before" and "after" picks around Christmas time. :)

[your_comforting_company]

I did a pretty big termite job today. I drank a little over a gallon of water during the six hours the job took. I didn't drink enough.

Given our heat and humidity, you should put down at least a quart an hour if you are sitting idle. I sat outside yesterday knapping and making trigger sticks (practicing setting primitive traps in the back yard). I would be willing to bet I was losing a cup of water every 30 minutes just in sweat.

Good job everyone. Glad to see folks focusing on getting more healthy!

[Winnie]

I think what you've managed in such a short space of time is just awsome. I hope to join you soon, once I've got this nicotine thing in some sort of perspective.

[BENESSE]

Of course, those who are just knapping, need less H2O as a general rule.

[oldtrap59]

Winnie if you get that nicotine thingy under control please let me know how you do it. I've never had a problem with weight but cigs are my downfall. Guess we all have our own problems, whatever they are. Great job Crash.

oldtrap

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

0 lbs lost
37 lbs total
63 lbs to reach initial goal

This week will be a test. MIL, SIL and niece are coming in for a few days and staying at a fancy, nearby resort. They have booked us a room too.

[Sourdough]

I am back "UP" at 202#/203#

[Winnie]

Well, Crash, a splurge once in a while doesn't hurt.:)

Sourdough, all that work you're doing is increasing your muscle mass, and everyone knows muscle is more dense, therefore heavier then fat.:innocent:

[BENESSE]

Stay strong Crash..."don't go there". Too early to go there. Let them eat cake.
(speaking from experience)

[crashdive123]

Stay strong Crash..."don't go there". Too early to go there. Let them eat cake.
(speaking from experience)

Welllllllll. I'll try to not go too far overboard. Here's where we'll be spending a few days (SIL's birthday present to Mrs. Crash, so it would be rude to refuse). http://www.pontevedra.com/inn-and-club/index.aspx

[BENESSE]

By "don't go there" I meant to say don't let your guard down and order stuff from the menu that would compromise all your hard work up to now.
(For me it takes one bite to fall off the wagon and land on my a$$, where it's much harder to get up from--kinda like smoking.)

The place looks fabulous, I'm sure you and the birthday girl will have a blast.

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

2 lbs gained
35 lbs total (lost)
65 lbs to reach initial goal

Well, now that I've gotten that out of the way, time to get back on track.

[Sourdough]

Yesterdays weigh-in:

204# Gain of 2# (Might be the 9 donuts I ate at the gun show Saturday)
232# started at
______
28# lost (It will most likely show up found this winter)

[BENESSE]

Only a speed bump made of temptation boys.
Just reverse and go around it and you'll be on your way in no time. :)

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

1 lbs lost
36 lbs total
64 lbs to reach initial goal

[Sourdough]

Weight: 200
Loss: 32 (was 232 May 7'th)
to go: 1 to hit initial target of 199#

[Rick]

You guys are doing great!! Congrats!!

[Winnie]

Great stuff!!

[BENESSE]

Back in the saddle again! Congrats.

[Justin Case]

Back in the saddle again! Congrats.

I am sure the horse is pleased too ! :innocent:

[Rick]

And getting happier by the day it looks like.

[your_comforting_company]

I don't like to be the one to say it, but...

Told ya so!

Glad you're over the hump. You will take off some more pounds and probably hit another stopping point or two before you reach your goal. Take it easy and don't push too hard. Some folks get so focused on just "losing weight" they put their health in jeopardy. Patience and persistence will win!

one word: Perdurabo

Good job Crash!

[crashdive123]

Oh, I've got no illusions about the journey. I know there will be bumps in the road just as there are in other aspects of life. My focus is not on losing weight, but rather living a more healthy life style. The weight will follow.

[rebel]

It's a change in how and what you eat. After you have met your goal, you can perhaps have once in a while, something from the past.

[rebel]

It's a change in how and what you eat. After you have met your goal, you can perhaps have once in a while, something from the past.

Well, that's my motivator.

[rebel]

What do you miss the most? I miss pasta. I could be the "Bubba" of pasta. 100 ways to make pasta and they're all great.

[BIG TONE]

Remember always set acheivable goals. Reward yourself and stay true to yourself. I have spent a lot of my young life overcoming addictions. One day at a time. GOOD LUCK!!

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

1 lbs lost
37 lbs total
63 lbs to reach initial goal

[nell67]

!!!! Great job Crash!!!!

[NCO]

You are doing great!

[Sourdough]

Tuesday Aug. 31'st

Start 232#
Weight 198#
____________
Loss 34#

New Target is: 189/190 by end of October........:)

[BENESSE]

Tuesday Aug. 31'st

Start 232#
Weight 198#
____________
Loss 34#

New Target is: 189/190 by end of October........:)

Good lord, and WOW!!!!
I guess where there's a will, there's a way. You're something else SD.

[crashdive123]

Well done SD. Very well done.

[your_comforting_company]

Tuesday Aug. 31'st

Start 232#
Weight 198#
____________
Loss 34#

New Target is: 189/190 by end of October........:)

My mama would call that "wormy" :tongue_smilie:

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

3 lbs lost
39 lbs total
61 lbs to reach initial goal

[your_comforting_company]

Great job brother! You are making some great progress!
Keep it up!

[Sourdough]

Wow, Good numbers Crash. Congratulations.

[BENESSE]

You certainly didn't waste any time Crash. Great numbers, great progress. Does it feel like it's a way of life or are you aware that you're doing something different?

[Rick]

That's quite an accomplishment!!

[crashdive123]

You certainly didn't waste any time Crash. Great numbers, great progress. Does it feel like it's a way of life or are you aware that you're doing something different?

I must still constantly remind myself.

[Sourdough]

Sept. 8'th


199#
Gain of one pound........:tongue_smilie:

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

2 lbs lost
41 lbs total
59 lbs to reach initial goal

[Sourdough]

The last three days 191#

Total Loss of 41 pounds.

New target: 185#

[Beans]

The last three days 191#

Total Loss of 41 pounds.

New target: 185#



Where did Sourdough go? Who is the new skinny guy???


Congratulations :sorcerer:

[crashdive123]

Good job SD. Has it helped with the blood pressure?

[Sourdough]

Good job SD. Has it helped with the blood pressure?


I don't know, I don't have a PB tester. I am eating a 1/2 cup of chopped garlic per day, go thing I live alone.

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

No change
41 lbs total
59 lbs to reach initial goal

[your_comforting_company]

Keep it up crash. You're doing good. You too SD. Excellent!

[Winnie]

I think you're both doing really well!

[DOGMAN]

Wow! Good work guys...I hadn't looked at this thread before. Awesome...I am very proud of both of you

[beetlejuicex3]

I lost a 13 lbs in 4 weeks with an iphone app called Livestrong. There's a free internet based version too I think.

You put in your weight and activity level then how much weight you want to lose per week and it spits out how many calories you can eat a day.

You enter what you eat as the day goes on and it tells you how many calories you have left to consume that day. If you exercise you can enter that and it will tell you how many calories you bruned and add those calories to how much you can eat for the day.

My father has lost 22lbs with it in 2 months.

[Sourdough]

Sept. 22


Weight: 190#
Target: 185#

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

Gained 2 lbs
39 lbs total loss
61 lbs to reach initial goal

[crashdive123]

Today's weigh in:

Lost 5 lbs
44 lbs total loss
56 lbs to reach initial goal

[Rick]

Man, you are zinging right along. Good for you. You've done a great job sticking with it and making some great progress!

[BENESSE]

Thought I'd check back here to see if I missed anything.:whistling:

Just 'cause there's a jamboree coming up doesn't mean y'all can slack off. Now get down and give me 10!!!

[rebel]

Now get down and give me 10!!!
O.K. You've got to appreciate that.

[Sourdough]

Now get down and give me 10!!!

Nope, I am not going to go there........:ohmy::ohmy:

[BENESSE]

How y'all doin'?
No flying under the radar here!

[Sourdough]

How y'all doin'?
No flying under the radar here!


Well, I am going to launch a second attack on the weight. I have plateaued at 192'ish. I am going to go for 185# by Thanksgiving.

[BENESSE]

Well, I am going to launch a second attack on the weight. I have plateaued at 192'ish. I am going to go for 185# by Thanksgiving.

Just take that vest off and put your gun away and you're already there.

[crashdive123]

Been holding pretty steady. Working on increasing my physical activity. Just gotta get my body to cooperate.

[Sourdough]

I have not had to diet so far to loose the 40# but I'll have to diet now, as other than some chores, and my daily walks, it is mostly reading a good book. And unless the book is Penthouse, I don't burn many colories reading.

[crashdive123]

You could always take the long way to the outhouse.

[Sourdough]

You could always take the long way to the outhouse.


Thanks for the reminder: Tomorrow I'll need to pump the three 55 Gal. drums of non-potable water into the outhouse, and stir it up.

[crashdive123]

Well if it wasn't non-potable before you pumped it..........

[BENESSE]

Thanks for the reminder: Tomorrow I'll need to pump the three 55 Gal. drums of non-potable water into the outhouse, and stir it up.

You know what they say about stirring up $hit?

[crashdive123]

Pot stirrer - Porta Potty stirrer --- Potato - Potahto.

[Winnie]

Been holding pretty steady. Working on increasing my physical activity. Just gotta get my body to cooperate.

Perhaps it's just that I haven't seen you in a year, so I notice the difference more, but I reckon your weight is just about fine. If you hadn't said which one was you in the group photo, I was going to ask!:yes:

[Wise Old Owl]

Make sure you write down everything consumed or drunk, little or no alcohol

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg275/MarkSwarbrick/Takeoff1.jpg

They were a very successful company but after a what I remember was a seven year run they were bankrupt. So I think I am ok on the copyright.

[crashdive123]

Well, I started this thread about four years ago. During the ensuing three years I dieted and exercised successfully and unsuccessfully. The bottom line was that I was never able to achieve long term success. It took well over a year to make the decision, but I finally decided to take drastic action. I am nearing retirement, and thought - what's the point if I can't do the things that I enjoy. I (we) work hard all our lives so that we can live comfortably, but that shouldn't mean not doing things that we enjoy or finally have time to do in retirement. Even with my obesity I still was very active, but was finding it more and more difficult to do the things I enjoy.

So............Last January (the 22nd) I had gastric bypass surgery. Now - this is not a "magic bullet", but it certainly set me on the correct path. I still have to work at it every day. I have now reached my goal weight of 180 (a 130 pound loss) and have been maintaining so far. I exercise regularly, eat five small meals a day, and track everything.

I encourage anybody that has weight issues to take a look at it. You may/probably won't need to take as drastic a step as I did, but for your future enjoyment and the enjoyment of your loved ones - please take a look.

B has always said (and is correct) that we too often overlook our own physical survival while focusing on the latest gear and gadgets. My thoughts were that the latest and greatest gear wouldn't help me if I had to use a walker to get around.

Here's a current, albeit fuzzy pic.

http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii67/crashdive123/Forum%20Fun/meatgym_zpsf4cea752.jpg (http://s261.photobucket.com/user/crashdive123/media/Forum%20Fun/meatgym_zpsf4cea752.jpg.html)

[natertot]

Wow! You look great! It is amazing to see the transformation since I last saw you Oct of 2013. Congratulations on your success. I thank you for sharing your experience and encouraging others to take action. I am now the heaviest I have ever been at 202lbs and have about 40lbs to lose. This is very encouraging for me to begin to at least try to do something. Thanks and enjoy the new body!


I tried to give you rep, but it said I need to spread the love.

[Batch]

Great job Crash!

[hunter63]

I second Nate comments.....That a long hard road.....way to go Dave
.
I'm past 1 year of non-smoking, still go work out 3 days a week, for cardio...got results back of heart function, still good.....

Continued success to you and everyone that is going the health improvement route.

Got ya covered Nate......Rep sent.

[BENESSE]

All I can say is, WOW! You look like a whole different person and you look younger, somehow. Maybe because we expect younger people to be slim and in shape. SO glad you pulled the trigger on that one. I'll bet Mrs, C feels like she is cheating on her husband with you.
Congratulations on your perseverance throughout the years!

[1stimestar]

Dang Crash, you look fantastic! Yep, last week I started on a "diet". I keep complaining that all my friends are turning into fat old ladies who don't want to go do anything fun (camping, canoeing, etc.) but in truth, I was too. I weigh more now then I ever have other then when pregnant and am not ok with it. So yep, working it!

[Winnie]

Well, all I can say is congratulations! I'm having the same issues and doesn't seem to matter how much I work at it, I never keep weight off.

[Phaedrus]

Looks like it's working great for you, Crash!

[Rick]

You should be very proud of what you've accomplished. As others have said, you look great!

[wilderness medic]

Got dang Chief! Good job!:clap:

Now I have to run to the gym, i'm embarrassed :munchies:

[tjwilhelm]

WOO HOO! Lookin' great! This is a full-on inspiration to me, Crash! Thank you! I've been having similar thoughts myself, of late -- what good is the gear if the old carcass won't cooperate the way it needs to in a survival situation. Physical conditioning really is critical. Thank you!

[TXyakr]

That is great crash! A very difficult challenge.

Just last night my 13 year old daughter had a fight with her older sister about which snacks were just hers. She told me that all the snacks and small meals in the pantry that are mine are very yucky. I told her they are that way intentionally and I drink 2 - 4 quarts of water per day on a cool day for a reason. Park remotely etc. Someday she will understand the method to my madness.

[nell67]

Darn Crash,keep doing what you're doing, it looks good on you!

[Adventure Wolf]

As someone that struggles with my weight, congrats. You look great. I'm over 240 pounds again after losing 20.

[Walter2]

nice work!

[Solar Geek]

You look great Crash! I am still struggling after losing 20, 6-7 crept back on so losing those again!
Keep up with it!

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