Volcanic Ash Shuts Down British Airspace.

[Winnie]

British Airspace was closed down about 20 minutes ago.
http://edition.cnn.com/

I'm not sure how far this ash cloud is going to cover the UK. If it goes dark, i'll let you know!

[crashdive123]

There will probably be trace amounts of ash found for long distances. You're far enough away where I doubt there will be any ash issues.

[BENESSE]

Mr. B's flight to Heathrow got canceled this morning. Just as well.
Hope you don't get any fallout Winnie.

[crashdive123]

Looks like its most airports all across Europe. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36543312/ns/world_news-europe/

[Winnie]

Looks like it's closed til 7am tomorrow at the earliest. So tell Mr Bee not to get up early for his plane!
The ash and debris is way too high to fall, I was just joshing. But it's dangerous stuff for planes.

[Old GI]

Brings to mind the Mount St Helen's ash as far east as the east coast. I had just returned form overseas and drove through it from NJ to Yuma.

[skully]

they say theres diamond particals in the air and it causes turbines to shut down so yeah

[Winnie]

Seems it's going to be an ongoing problem. I'm wondering what's going to happen to all the fruit and veg that get flown in.
Those who live near the airports are reporting blissful peace and quiet!:)

[crashdive123]

Poland is a real mess. All of the hotel rooms are full for the state funerals, but none of the previous occupants can fly out.

[Rick]

This has the potential for world wide impact and it shows no sign of slowing down. The Tembora eruption in Indonesia in 1815 put enough volcanic ash into the atmosphere to reduce global temperatures by 1°F. That temperature drop was enough to cause world wide crop failures. Let's keep our fingers crossed this one slows down pretty quickly. The negative impact to the travel industry in general is still going to be significant.

[BLEUXDOG]

Seems it's going to be an ongoing problem. I'm wondering what's going to happen to all the fruit and veg that get flown in.
Those who live near the airports are reporting blissful peace and quiet!:)

Peace before the storm.

Quiet at the airport, going to get not so quiet at the grocery store if the ash keeps up.

[crashdive123]

I wonder if Al Gore has figured out what Iceland has to pay in carbon taxes for this.

[Rick]

A few years back I read the story of British Airways Flight 9 that flew through volcanic ash at night. The pilots couldn't see the ash cloud because it was at night and they had not received a report of the eruption so they had no idea what was going on. The dry ash created a incandescent static electricity that danced on the outside of the aircraft and inside the cock pit. I think they referred to it as St. Elmo's Fire.

The ash slowly sand blasted the windshield until only a small strip of glass down the outside edge could be viewed through. They had to land the plane looking through that one tiny strip of glass.

The ash choked the engines and killed all four of them. When they dropped down to something like 12 or 13 thousand feet they were able to restart the engines. They didn't realize it at the time but they had descended out of the cloud and the air flow through the stalled engines helped clear them of the ash.

It was a good read if anyone chances upon the article.

[Justin Case]

A few years back I read the story of British Airways Flight 9 that flew through volcanic ash at night. The pilots couldn't see the ash cloud because it was at night and they had not received a report of the eruption so they had no idea what was going on. The dry ash created a incandescent static electricity that danced on the outside of the aircraft and inside the cock pit. I think they referred to it as St. Elmo's Fire.

The ash slowly sand blasted the windshield until only a small strip of glass down the outside edge could be viewed through. They had to land the plane looking through that one tiny strip of glass.

The ash choked the engines and killed all four of them. When they dropped down to something like 12 or 13 thousand feet they were able to restart the engines. They didn't realize it at the time but they had descended out of the cloud and the air flow through the stalled engines helped clear them of the ash.

It was a good read if anyone chances upon the article.

http://www.bing.com/reference/semhtml/British_Airways_Flight_9?src=abop&fwd=1&q=british+airways+flight+9&qpvt=british+airways+flight+9

[Rick]

That's it. The story I read was much more detailed and really a great story. It contained much of the cockpit conversation and commentary by the pilot and co-pilot.

[Justin Case]

Here is the National Geographic special about British Airways flight 9,,
British Airways Flight 9 experiences views of St. Elmo's fire on the plane along with smoke smelling like sulphur in the cabin. Suddenly, all engines on the 747-236B start flaming. Then, they flame out. "This is Speedbird 9. All 4 engines have failed!" the pilot shouts on the radio. With 263 people in the balance, Flight 9 starts falling


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVI0yLxFdHM

[Rick]

I couldn't get over the fact that there was an experienced pilot that had gone through all the safety drills and suddenly had this unexplained "fire" dancing around his aircraft with no plausible explanation for what it was or why it was there. That had to be one weird moment or two for them. And that was before the problems with the engines.

[Ken]

Reminds me of the night that some guy started spamming porn all over the Forum. All the mods were offline. Then we got a hold of Crash just as he was leaving for his CERT training. He logged-in and saved the day, just like them pilots did. :innocent:

[Justin Case]

The Captains quote ,, REAL !

"Ladies and Gentlemen, this is your Captain speaking. We have a small problem. All four engines have stopped. We are doing our damnedest to get them under control. I trust you are not in too much distress."


How would you like to hear this when you are flying ? YIKES !

[Ken]

How Volcanoes Can Change The World

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/04/16/darrigo.volcano.impact/index.html

[crashdive123]

Here's another that shows what did, and can happen. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-do-volcanoes-affect-w

[Rick]

We're just too small and insignificant to understand the big picture.

http://www.offthemarkcartoons.com/cartoons/1988-01-04.gif

[canid]

i think this is the eruption:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ztg0wUqKY

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Fimmvorduhals_second_fissure_2010_04_02.JPG

[Rick]

Congrats!! That's probably the largest photo ever posted on a forum. Guinness has been contacted for confirmation. Incidentally, three servers melted when I downloaded it. :innocent:

I read this morning that ash is beginning to fall in England. Stay safe, Winnie.

[crashdive123]

For those of you on dial up, and don't want to wait four days for the picture to load........

[Justin Case]

That is an awesome Photo,,,,,

[Winnie]

My friend in Scotland suffered a bit of fallout yesterday, it's supposed to start falling from the sky down her today, at the moment it's glorious and I've spent all morning getting the garden in shape. I'm sitting outside now with a cup of tea and the girls, listening to some REALLY old tunes on the wind-up radio!

And thanks I'll be careful.

[Ken]

For those of you on dial up, and don't want to wait four days for the picture to load........

I have high-speed internet and it's been 2 minutes and counting. :innocent:

Rick, you called that one right. You can see the entire pic if you zoom out to 25%.
__________________
“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.”
W. Edwards Deming

[Justin Case]

I have high-speed internet and it's been 2 minutes and counting. :innocent:

Rick, you called that one right. You can see the entire pic if you zoom out to 25%.
__________________
“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.”
W. Edwards Deming

I gave up after about 1/4 of it was done loading :blushing: Great Pic though :)

[2dumb2kwit]

Some more pictures, to look at. Some are just plain amazing.


http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/04/more_from_eyjafjallajokull.html

[Rick]

Those are some most excellent photos!!!

Is it just me or are you somehow thinking wrong when you go, "Yeah, right here next to the great big volcano would be the perfect place for a farm. How much for all this land?"

Isn't that real similar to saying, "Oh, you bet, I'd love to live in New Orleans. Below sea level, right?"

[rebel]

Nice photo! BTW, ash adheres to the turbine blades and changes the aerodynamics( like a wing and it doesn't take much). It also doesn't come off. The couple of restarts only gave partial power. The engines are trashed.

[crashdive123]

Those are spectacular pictures, and I can see that Ken is having an impact on you 2D. You know - surfing Boston.com and all....... just sayin'.

[Ken]

Some more pictures, to look at. Some are just plain amazing.

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/04/more_from_eyjafjallajokull.html


Those are spectacular pictures, and I can see that Ken is having an impact on you 2D. You know - surfing Boston.com and all....... just sayin'.

Crash, you took the words right out of my mouth. A avowed redneck, reading the Boston Globe - the most liberal newspaper in the most liberal state in the nation. :whistling:

And did you look at them pictures? I've NEVER been able to grow marshmallows anywhere near that big!


http://inapcache.boston.com/universal/site_graphics/blogs/bigpicture/eyja_04_19/e02_23042795.jpg

[Justin Case]

[QUOTE=Ken;216708]Crash, you took the words right out of my mouth. A avowed redneck, reading the Boston Globe - the most liberal newspaper in the most liberal state in the nation. :whistling:

And did you look at them pictures? I've NEVER been able to grow marshmallows anywhere near that big!

You just need Smore practice.

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