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Sarge47
03-02-2010, 06:32 PM
Okay, despite the obvious Cuban bigot that just left in a huff; how can you tell if someone's a "poser" or a "wannabe?" Easy, just read what they write.
For example. if they talk about Survival like it's something that stands alone...say "I'm going "surviving" like "I'm going Skiing;" then they don't have a clue. They probably have been watching way too many Survival reality shows & think they know it all. Some of you may remember the Troll we got on here who started out by saying: "I wanna survive stuff!"
Recently a newbie posted that they were taking a car-load of stuff but if anybody used any of it they "lost." That just floored me! What in the world they were talking about, I still don't know.
They also said that their 1st aid kits were for their clothes! That's just brainless! How are you going to treat a fever with a bunch of rags?
Then the used the "pet" saying: "Just gonna take our knives & the clothes on our backs!" They were going to Wisconsin for crying out loud! Aren't there bears up there?
Another newbie posted using the same wrong definition of survival, that he was counting on his BOB! That's all well & good, but if you lose your BOB then you really will be "Surviving."
None of these people have a real clue as to what surviving really means; it means, basically, to live. If you make it through a 24 hour period, anywhere, anytime, anyplace; despite the circumstances you've "SURVIVED THE DAY!" If you drove to work and back home again you've "SURVIVED THE TRIP!" That's right Newbies, Survival means you made it, you're still alive. Nothing sexy or sporty about it! Forget Grylls & Stroud if you think that's what it's all about!
Now, on the flip side, if you post that you're going camping and will be learning & testing new survival skills; well, alright. Learn to start a fire right after a hard rain. That'll test your mettle! Try starting a fire with only two matches...that's right, I said MATCHES! You'd be surprised how many people can't! Try cooking & eating your regular food without utensils; no pots, pans, silverware, etc.. If you can't you might think about joining the Boy Scouts, either as a Scout, or if you're too old, as a volunteer! Then when you can do what any 12 year-old Scout can do, start in on the hard stuff! Learn to make a water-proof/windproof shelter; but don't, for crying out loud, leave the tent at home! Now learn how to start a fire WITHOUT matches! Learn to cut wood for that fire WITHOUT any kind of a bladed implement, including sharp-edged rocks!
Maybe that'll give some of you the idea of what I'm talking about! :cool2:
Then the used the "pet" saying: "Just gonna take our knives & the clothes on our backs!"
Right! Much more believable if they said, "Just gonna take our spoons & the clothes on our backs!"
your_comforting_company
03-02-2010, 07:00 PM
my heart fluttered there for a second sarge.
and I shed a bittersweet tear.
I think to some people it's a game. but it's not. It is fun, but it's not a game or a competition. At least not for me.
But I practiced making sharp edged rocks today to cut things with, so it's kind of a toss up.
good point tho ;)
time to put away our comic book heroes and fake tv shows. In reality there is only do or don't. expectations of reality should be equally realistic, not so fantastic and adventurous.
Some of you may remember the Troll we got on here who started out by saying: "I wanna survive stuff!"
Hey, at least we didn't have to answer any riddles to cross his bridge!
Justin Case
03-02-2010, 07:28 PM
for crying out loud, leave the tent at home!
But I just Got it :blushing:
Sarge47
03-02-2010, 09:48 PM
But I just Got it :blushing:
You took it out of context. It reads: "but DON'T, for crying out loud, leave the tent at home!" You need to read the whole thing dude! :cool2:
Justin Case
03-02-2010, 10:26 PM
I think i need glasses,, Things seem to blur together,,,, :online2long:
Sarge47
03-02-2010, 10:56 PM
RW, I've commented on your text at each point!
Regardless if someone is "playing survival" or not, if they know what they are doing they will be more prepared when the time comes. [I AGREE; HOWEVER, NO ONE PERSON CAN EVER BE PREPARED FOR EVERY POSSIBLE SURVIVAL SITUATION. THE VERY 1ST THING A PERSON NEEDS TO SURVIVE IS THE WILL TO LIVE!]
If someone is a fan of bare grills or rambo and thaT fanaticism leads them to learn the skills required to survive in a shtf or wilderness situation or what have you then so be it.[YES; IF THEY ARE GETTING THE RIGHT ADVICE, THE WRONG ADVICE CAN KILL THEM, AS CAN DELIBERATELY PUTTING THEMSELVES IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION. THIS HAS HAPPENED ALL THROUGH OUT HISTORY.]
I realize there are people out there that think if they have the latest and greatest gear, know all the buzzwords and acronyms then they feel they are prepared to survive. It's not bare grills and the like that breed these types, it's society.[OKAY, BUT THAT'S TOO BROAD; BEAR & THE OTHERS PERPETUATE IT, ROMANTICIZE IT, & SEDUCE PEOPLE INTO TRYING THE SAME THING. THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY.]
You could take away all the tv shows and such and they would still exist in the same numbers.[THAT'S AN OPINION THAT HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN.]
These types are not just in the survival arena they are in all walks of life.[OKAY, BUT I'M REFFERING TO THE SURVIVAL ARENA.]
I don't understand and maybe I'm not reading you correctly Sarge, but it seems you are against people who enjoy practicing survival skills, or maybe you are against the terminolgy they use or the way they express themselves.[BOTH TERMINAOLOGY & THOSE THAT THINK IT'S COOL TO EMULATE THE TV PEOPLE. I WILL NOT ENCOURAGE OR ENABLE THEM, BUT WILL LET THEM KNOW MY POSITION. ON THIS I DO NOT APOLOGIZE!]
If someone is new to learning this stuff it is extremely likely they will act this way, and use thiese terminologies. It doesn't mean they should be made fun of or shunned by more experienced folks,[I DON'T "SHUN" PEOPLE UNTIL I SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT LISTENING. AS FOR MAKING FUN OF THEM, THEY HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THEIR POSITION. WHEN TBWN SHOWED UP THEY WERE GIVEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO EXCHANGE IDEAS WITH THE FORUM, HOWEVER THEY WERE NOT HEARING OR SEEING WHAT THEY WANTED SO THEY IGNORED THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY DIDN'T LIKE.]
but instead a gradual bringing to the light approach would be better. It would eventually reduce the thing you seem to hate so much.[THAT'S VERY POETIC, BUT UNREALISTIC. I'VE DONE THAT IN THE PAST & IT'S FAILED TO WORK! ALSO, "HATE" IS A VERY STRONG WORD; I PREFER: "CONCERN."]
Because if you, a seemingly more level headed and experienced type, scare them off with sarcasm and such then they will just continue down the road they're on and proliferate. Which will increase the thing you hate so much.[IF SARCASM CAN, AS YOU SAY, "SCARE THEN OFF;" THEN THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT ATTITUDE TO BEGIN WITH. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AN ADVOCATE OF "TOUGH LOVE."]
There is a difference between survival and living. I don't think survival is driving home from work. That's living. Survival is getting in an accident or stranded on the way home and surviving it so you can "live" another day.
[I DISAGREE; AGAIN, IT'S THE TERMINOLOGY. THAT'S A ROMANTIC NOTION, BUT UNTRUE. SURVIVAL IS STAYING ALIVE, PERIOD!]
We are not in survival mode every day of our life, hopefully.[YOU BETTER BE!]
But, we are prepared to kick into survival mode when the need arises. Survival is the first stage of living, not the entire existence of it.[PRETTY WORDS, BUT, AGAIN, I DISAGREE! ANYTHING CAN HAPPEN AT ANYTIME WITHOUT WARNING. RECENTLY THE TOWN I LIVE IN MADE NATIONAL NEWS WHEN A YOUNG MAN WALKED INTO A LARGE STORE HERE WITH AN AR-15, SECURED HIS AMMO FROM THE SPORTING GOODS COUNTER, & OPENED FIRED ON THE POLICE. LATER HE KILLED HIMSELF & LUCKILY NO ONE WAS INJURED. ONE MAN KEPT HIS HEAD & HELPED 5 OTHERS TO SAFETY, ALONG WITH HIMSELF. IT'S SOMETHING YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF AT ALL TIMES!]
Finally, I like the words of Cody Lundin Himself: http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/blog.php?b=120. Check it out! :cool2:
DOGMAN
03-02-2010, 11:28 PM
I think its just a matter of definitions....it seems to a lot of folks today "survival" is just a trendy word for "minimalistic camping". Its not about bushcraft, or being comfortable in the wilderness, its about enduring a few self-inflicted miserable nights outside. Sadly, in my eyes this is against the whole principle of developing bushcraft skills and practicing primitive skills. When we develop primitive skills we learn how to WORK WITH THE ENVIRONMENT, and take what the natural world has to offer to enrich our lives. This contemporary "enduring the elements" style does just the opposite and puts people in the "man vs nature" mode.
COWBOYSURVIVAL
03-03-2010, 12:19 AM
I think its just a matter of definitions....it seems to a lot of folks today "survival" is just a trendy word for "minimalistic camping". Its not about bushcraft, or being comfortable in the wilderness, its about enduring a few self-inflicted miserable nights outside. Sadly, in my eyes this is against the whole principle of developing bushcraft skills and practicing primitive skills. When we develop primitive skills we learn how to WORK WITH THE ENVIRONMENT, and take what the natural world has to offer to enrich our lives. This contemporary "enduring the elements" style does just the opposite and puts people in the "man vs nature" mode.
Excellent post Jason!
canid
03-03-2010, 01:33 AM
what? survival isn't the latest extreme sport? well i have been shamefully misled people...
*storms off in a huff like whinnie cooper*
Sarge47
03-03-2010, 08:22 AM
We'll have to agree to disagree then. :cool2:
Old GI
03-03-2010, 10:09 AM
what? survival isn't the latest extreme sport? well i have been shamefully misled people...
*storms off in a huff like whinnie cooper*
Gotta be a sport - look how easy it is to keep score.:spam:
DOGMAN
03-03-2010, 11:08 AM
I watched this new show last night called "Parenthood" and it touched on a similar theme being talked about here.
The patriarch of this family- the Grandpaw (played by the guy who used to be Coach...on "Coach") is a tough love, successful, athletic manly man. He has a grandson that is a little special and sensitive. Well, gramps ends up giving his ten year old grandson a bloody nose during a basketball game, and everyone freaks out.
So, gramps and his son (the boys father) get in a discussion about "How to raise a boy" and the son says to gramps...."I am just trying to raise him different than you raised us....I don't want him to feel everyday is a war"....
The grandpaw just looks at his son, confused and disgusted and says "but, it is"....
Thats what brings relevance to this thread...Is every day a war...and/or survival situation?
I am inclined to say yes....what do you think?
Sarge47
03-03-2010, 01:55 PM
No, it is not. If you think it is then something is not right in your life or you misunderstand the terms war and survival. That's my opinion which is backed up by definitions in every dictionary or refernece book known to mankind. It is further backed up by endless psychological and sociological studies.
Going to and from work is not war. Going to the grocery store and dealing with people in everyday life is not war.
Survival is fighting tooth and nail every waking hour just to get by. As I've already said umpteen times. It's not deciding whether to make a PB and J or a bologna sandwich. I'ts not dealing with co-workers or moving up the ladder. Those things are way beyond and above survival and don't even begin to apply to the term war.
Well, don't mean to burst your bubble, but here's what Webster's has to say:
survive definition
survive (sər vīv′)
transitive verb survived (http://www.yourdictionary.com/survived) -vived′, surviving (http://www.yourdictionary.com/surviving) -viv′ing
to live or exist longer than or beyond the life or existence of; outlive
to continue to live after or in spite of to survive a wreck
Etymology: ME surviven < OFr survivre < L supervivere < super-, above (see super- (http://www.yourdictionary.com/super-prefix)) + vivere, to live (see bio- (http://www.yourdictionary.com/bio-prefix))
intransitive verb
to continue living or existing, as after an event or after another's death
survival definition
survival (sər vī′vəl)
noun
the act, state, or fact of surviving
someone or something that survives, esp. an ancient belief, custom, usage, etc.
survivor definition
survivor (sər vī′vər)
noun
a person or thing that survives; specif., a person who has survived an ordeal or great misfortune
a person regarded as resilient or courageous enough to be able to overcome hardship, misfortune, etc.
Now a "survivalist" is a bit different:
survivalist definition
survivalist (-ist)
noun
someone strongly determined to survive
a person who takes measures, as storing food and weapons, living in a wilderness, etc., to ensure survival after an expected economic collapse, nuclear war, etc.
Webster's New World College Dictionary (http://www.yourdictionary.com/about/Websters-New-World-College-Dictionary.html) Copyright 2009 by Wiley Publishing, Inc., Cleveland, Ohio.
Used by arrangement with John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
I rest my case. :sneaky2:
I rest my case. :sneaky2:
Quit stealing my lines. :sneaky2:
hunter63
03-03-2010, 02:21 PM
I rest my case. :sneaky2:
IMHO sound more like an "Issue".
You win, sheesh, lets move on.
DOGMAN
03-03-2010, 02:33 PM
If you think it is then something is not right in your life
I have been told that many times...lol...
But a few questions....Your definition of survival, I interupt is in the psychological sense, sort of a Maslow's Hierarchy of needs paradigm.
So, in regards to the natural world...is wildlife in a "struggle for survival"?
Also, in the historical sense- primitive cultures of hunters and gatherers- "struggle for survival" or not?
Batch
03-03-2010, 02:47 PM
Semantics?
What is the purpose of this forum?
CBS's Survivor has become one of the most watched television shows in America. One of the reasons for this show's success is that there is an adventurer in all of us and since we all cannot be in a survival situation we like to live vicariously through the people on the show.
But don't make the mistake of thinking that being in a survival situation would be fun. Wilderness Survival is not a game, there is no reward challenges, and there is no immunity. How do you think you would fare in a survival situation? Could you build a shelter? Could you light a fire without matches? Could you forage for food and purify water? In real life you don't have luxury items, you don't get tarps and matches and camping supplies. In real life you may not have any tools except your own two hands. If you were stranded in the wilderness would you end up a survivor?
Don't worry about those questions. Instead take action and educate yourself on survival techniques. Nature is unforgiving and you must be prepared to fight to stay alive. The contents of this website are taken from actual US Army training manuals, this is the same material used to train the best army in the world. You will not find a more complete resource on Wilderness Survival. So prepare yourself because one day you may need it.
So yes, every day someone, ANYONE, lives. They have survived that day. But, what have they survived. The site is called Wilderness-survival. Every time anyone here has ever gone out into the wilderness they have survived. Does that mean we were in a survival situation as we discuss on here?
I don't think every day is a survival challenge. We have it pretty cushy compared to our ancestors. So far today, my survival challenge has been to walk downstairs and eat lunch then make a trip to the post office. I didn't have to kill anything or avoid being eaten by another animal. (shrug)
Sarge47
03-03-2010, 05:56 PM
I don't think every day is a survival challenge. We have it pretty cushy compared to our ancestors. So far today, my survival challenge has been to walk downstairs and eat lunch then make a trip to the post office. I didn't have to kill anything or avoid being eaten by another animal. (shrug)
...many of us have had to survive that "thong photo" you like to post! :innocent:
Will you "survive" obesity? cancer? Your wife? A Twinkie overdose? :sneaky2:
Cushy just means we're "surviving" in a more comfortable environment. When my Father-in-law passed away I was listed in the obit as a "survivor;" yet nothing bad came my way, I just
"survived" him.
HOWEVER, no where is "extreme minimalist camping" described as "survival," although you can "survive" it.
When Newbies post how they're going out into the cold wilderness with nothing more than a knife & the clothes on their back...well neither Cody Lundin, Mors Kochanski, J. Wayne Fears, Dr. Ron Hood, or John "Lofty" Wiseman would go along with that cock-a-mamie idea! They're NOT going to get an "atta-boy" from me, nor will I tippy-toe on eggshells giving them a big 'ole "warm-&-fuzzy" non-offensive post so I won't hurt their "itty-bitty feelwings!" Like I always say; "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!" :cool2:
2dumb2kwit
03-03-2010, 06:13 PM
...many of us have had to survive that "thong photo" you like to post! :innocent:
Will you "survive" obesity? cancer? Your wife? A Twinkie overdose? :sneaky2:
Cushy just means we're "surviving" in a more comfortable environment. When my Father-in-law passed away I was listed in the obit as a "survivor;" yet nothing bad came my way, I just
"survived" him.
HOWEVER, no where is "extreme minimalist camping" described as "survival," although you can "survive" it.
When Newbies post how they're going out into the cold wilderness with nothing more than a knife & the clothes on their back...well neither Cody Lundin, Mors Kochanski, J. Wayne Fears, Dr. Ron Hood, or John "Lofty" Wiseman would go along with that cock-a-mamie idea! They're NOT going to get an "atta-boy" from me, nor will I tippy-toe on eggshells giving them a big 'ole "warm-&-fuzzy" non-offensive post so I won't hurt their "itty-bitty feelwings!" Like I always say; "If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen!" :cool2:
That's all well and good...unless your survival depends on getting people to hang out in your kitchen. (Think forum.):innocent:
Justin Case
03-03-2010, 06:14 PM
That's all well and good...unless your survival depends on getting people to hang out in your kitchen. (Think forum.):innocent:
I agree with 2D .
2dumb2kwit
03-03-2010, 08:00 PM
I agree with 2D .
ooooohhhhh....you do know that, that can be dangerous around here, right?:blushing:
hunter63
03-03-2010, 08:03 PM
That's all well and good...unless your survival depends on getting people to hang out in your kitchen. (Think forum.):innocent:
Yeah, well, I agree as well. And I not real good on tippy toeing around on egg shells either.
Justin Case
03-03-2010, 08:03 PM
Fingers crossed :innocent::innocent:
2dumb2kwit
03-03-2010, 08:16 PM
Yeah, well, I agree as well. And I not real good on tippy toeing around on egg shells either.
Yeah, I know. I was just trying to stir the pot, a little....it was getting kinda quiet, on here.:innocent: LOL
BENESSE
03-03-2010, 08:19 PM
One "survives" adversity. (G D, that was close!)
Everything else is living through "business as usual." (Lala, lala, lala, la)
At least I thought so.
But then I just might not be seeing the forest for the trees, for the bushes and underbrush.
rwc1969
03-03-2010, 08:47 PM
...So, in regards to the natural world...is wildlife in a "struggle for survival"?
Also, in the historical sense- primitive cultures of hunters and gatherers- "struggle for survival" or not?
Animals are in a struggle for survival at times, but other times they are simply living. If a squirrel is running from tree to tree dodging lead or a hawk, etc. then he is in a survival situation. But if he is in a tree peacefully chewing a nut then he is just living. If he is having a hard time finding nuts then he is once again in a survival situation.
Hunting and gathering is not a survival situation unless you are having a hard time hunting and gathering the food. If the food is stored up, the traps are set and bringing in game that is not survival, it's everyday living.
If you are a farmer and your crops come in, you harvest and sell them, etc. you are simply living. If there is a drought or disease, etc. and the crops fail you are then in survival mode and depending how well you previously lived and prepared for survival mode will determine if you keep on living or not.
rwc1969
03-03-2010, 08:54 PM
Jason, it is and was a struggle for some and not for others. There is a huge difference between survival and living, and Sarge's definitions proved that.
I think I've beat this to death enough for a brick wall to understand it. Survival is not everyday living. It's living thru a situation that is out of the norm.
Sarge47
03-03-2010, 09:01 PM
[A] Nowhere in your definitions did it say survival was simply living, but to outlive.
[B] Are you enduring hardship and misfortune? Then you are in survival mode, otherwise you're just living.
[A] You have to live in order to outlive.
[B] Every nano-second of every day. :cool2:
your_comforting_company
03-03-2010, 10:28 PM
Is every day a war...and/or survival situation?
I am inclined to say yes....what do you think?
For me, everyday is a struggle. I'm constantly at battle with the elements for work. I'm at the mercy of mother nature, and more often at her feet. If you ain't got no money, all you got is what Hisagita Immissee provides through dirt and labor.
No, it is not. If you think it is then something is not right in your life or you misunderstand the terms war and survival. ..Going to the grocery store and dealing with people in everyday life is not war.
You've obviously never gone with me to the mall...
So, in regards to the natural world...is wildlife in a "struggle for survival"?
Also, in the historical sense- primitive cultures of hunters and gatherers- "struggle for survival" or not?
struggle? yes. survival? sometimes. See.. sometimes I have plenty of work, plenty of food-stores, a little extra this and that.. sometimes, like for about the last 6 months, not so much. Work pays the bills. thats it. food comes from the garden and hunting / fishing, etc. struggle for survival? to me it is. to someone else? who knows. Like you say.. it's in the psychology.. I think I'm living pretty comfortably for someone in my situation, although maybe not as much as Lobster and twinkies on a whim. I did have sweet corn, peas, and fried cubes of venison tonight. Had I not gardened and hunted, and shared my crops for other crops.. tonights supper would have been pretty bleak.
anyone for more Ramen noodles? ME ME ME!!
What is the purpose of this forum?
Every time anyone here has ever gone out into the wilderness they have survived. Does that mean we were in a survival situation as we discuss on here?
nope. I can easily go into a wilderness area and be in almost no danger of dying. relatively speaking, The mall on the other hand...:m107:
Batch
03-03-2010, 11:33 PM
YCC, I agree with you on that mall stuff!
It is always a 100% survival situation. If not for me then for the people around me.
I go into a mall on purpose maybe once a year.
Sarge47
03-04-2010, 12:08 AM
When TSHTF in a mall the zombies & mall ninjas come out in force! :sneaky2:
Okay, I'll cast my vote with the "every second is a survival situation" side.
Don't laugh.
Do you lock your doors before you go to bed at night? Do you keep them locked during the day?
Are you careful about where - and how - you park your car at the mall?
Do you maintain situational awareness when you drive?
Do you maintain situational awareness when you enter a convenience store?
Do you maintain situational awareness when you walk down a street at night?
Do you maintain situational awareness when you're in the woods?
Have you ever returned home to make sure that you turned off an appliance or that you turned on your house alarm?
Ever go back to make sure you locked the doors?
Survival mentality isn't restricted to events like making it back to civilization after surviving a plane crash. It's much, much more.
For many of us, survival is instinctual. It's an inate ability that we possess to safeguard our well being - it's instinctual to the point where many of us aren't even conscious that we do many of the things we do. But we still do them, and our senses are always alert for some type of threat.
How does someone walk right into the middle of a bank robbery? Because they weren't paying attention. Period.
The circumstances may be as different as standing in line at WalMart or finding yourself floating in a lifeboat or lying on your couch watching television. Regardless of which it is, being alert to your surroundings, becoming aware of threats as they MAY arise, being prepared to deal with such threats and circumstances, and knowing the best way to react or avoid those threats in the first place is what survival is all about.
Think about it.
Sarge47
03-04-2010, 12:32 AM
Okay, I'll cast my vote with the "every second is a survival situation" side.
Don't laugh.
Do you lock your doors before you go to bed at night? Do you keep them locked during the day?
Are you careful about where - and how - you park your car at the mall?
Do you maintain situational awareness when you drive?
Do you maintain situational awareness when you enter a convenience store?
Do you maintain situational awareness when you walk down a street at night?
Do you maintain situational awareness when you're in the woods?
Have you ever returned home to make sure that you turned off an appliance or that you turned on your house alarm?
Ever go back to make sure you locked the doors?
Survival mentality isn't restricted to events like making it back to civilization after surviving a plane crash. It's much, much more.
For many of us, survival is instinctual. It's an inate ability that we possess to safeguard our well being - it's instinctual to the point where many of us aren't even conscious that we do many of the things we do. But we still do them, and our senses are always alert for some type of threat.
How does someone walk right into the middle of a bank robbery? Because they weren't paying attention. Period.
The circumstances may be as different as standing in line at WalMart or finding yourself floating in a lifeboat or lying on your couch watching television. Regardless of which it is, being alert to your surroundings, becoming aware of threats as they MAY arise, being prepared to deal with such threats and circumstances, and knowing the best way to react or avoid those threats in the first place is what survival is all about.
Think about it.
Like he said! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Sarge47
03-04-2010, 01:09 AM
Call it "situational awareness" (love that term!) or "the instinct of self-preservation" Some of you may have noticed that I'm a little bit down, so let me tell you about my recent experience on "surviving."
My kid brother became a grandfather for the 1st time in his life just last week when his son & his wife brought home their new baby daughter! She seemed to be in perfect health, yet later that evening something seemed wrong so they took her back to the hospital! She died there! One day old, & she didn't "survive." She didn't have a chance; no BOB, big freakin' knife, or anything like that. Just natural causes.
My kid brother has been very successful financially in his life. He makes great money, enough to buy his latest toy, a S & W .50 cal. pistol that cost about a grand. Bullets are 3 bucks apiece! He climbs mountains, has a Black-belt in Tae Kwon Do/Hopkido(as does his wife & both sons) & lately was getting into Asian Jiu-Jitsu. Everything seems to go right for him, so he never thinks about "survival." Consequently this has hit him really hard! It could never happen to him, so he thinks, it only happens to other people. Ken, you're right on the money buddy! :cool2:
crashdive123
03-04-2010, 06:28 AM
Sorry for your family's loss Sarge.
your_comforting_company
03-04-2010, 07:19 AM
same here sarge. I had no idea. Sorry for your loss. It is a reminder for us to enjoy the little things and savor each moment we have. It may be hard to look on the bright side, but at least they did get to know her for a day.
Please accept my deepest sympathy, Sarge, and extend it to your brother and his family as well. I know exactly how he feels right now.
BENESSE
03-04-2010, 08:44 AM
Heartfelt condolences, Sarge to you and your family.
I can't imagine anything harder than the loss of a child. You and your family have my deepest sympathy.
rebel
03-04-2010, 09:43 AM
I'm sorry for your family's loss.
gryffynklm
03-04-2010, 10:43 AM
Hey Sarge, sorry about your loss. I couldn't imagine loosing a child. Thoughts and prayers.
cyc79
03-04-2010, 11:00 AM
I'm truly sorry Sarge.The loss of a child at any age is a parents worst nightmare.
Justin Case
03-04-2010, 11:11 AM
Sorry for your Loss Sarge,,
nell67
03-04-2010, 11:18 AM
I am so sorry for your families loss,Sarge,I lost a sibling to SIDS when I was a teen,and know the emotional turmoil families go through at the loss of a loved one so young,your family is in my prayers.
hunter63
03-04-2010, 11:50 AM
Real sorry to hear about your family's loss.
As a new grandfather, by way of adoption, I can feel the shock and emptiness your family must be feeling.
You and yours are in our thoughts and prayers, hang in there.
2dumb2kwit
03-04-2010, 02:24 PM
I can never find the right words, at times like this, but know that you and your family are in my thoughts and prayers, Sarge.
yellowcab
09-20-2025, 05:38 PM
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yellowcab
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yellowcab
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