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Spammers come and spammers go but occasionally one will be particularly ugly by including ad popups, viruses or malware or spyware within the link they post. If you don't have the necessary software to counter these threats then they can easily hose your computer.
When you see a web site link within the body of the post from a brand new member or someone you do not know DO NOT click on it. The forum does not allow members to post links to their web sites within the body of the post. This is just one more reason for that. You can certainly report the post but allow one of the mods to review it before you click on it. Chances are, we'll either remove the link because it violates forum policy or remove the entire post because it is spam.
Anyone can link to another site that they have no financial interest in and there is a lot of great information out there to share by doing so. I'm only talking about links from brand new members or folks you don't know.
This very situation occurred yesterday and a member is battling with repairing their machine today.
Here are some helpful tools that you probably want to have installed so you don't run into problems anywhere. There are a number of good programs out there but I'll list a few here that are free.
Malicious Software Removal: Microsoft
http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.aspx (http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.aspx)
Ad Blockers: Ad Aware
http://www.lavasoft.com/
Spyware: Spybot Search and Destroy
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/index.html
Free AntiVirus: Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/Security_Essentials/
Ole WV Coot
01-28-2010, 10:42 AM
AVG anti-virus seems to work better for me and free of course. Ad-Aware works for me and the AVG on mine is set to run a full scan each day as is Ad-Aware. Slows the computer a little but seems to work. CCleaner ain't bad either. Just my not so humble opinion.
pgvoutdoors
01-28-2010, 10:46 AM
Thanks for the update Rick. The ugly side of the internet is a big problem. PGV
I agree, CCleaner is very good. But it's design is a bit different. From their web site:
"CCleaner is a freeware system optimization, privacy and cleaning tool. It removes unused files from your system - allowing Windows to run faster and freeing up valuable hard disk space. It also cleans traces of your online activities such as your Internet history. Additionally it contains a fully featured registry cleaner. But the best part is that it's fast (normally taking less than a second to run) and contains NO Spyware or Adware! :)"
http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner/download
Byte Me
01-28-2010, 10:59 AM
i do computer work for a living. CC cleaner is good. Some of the ones i commonly use are.
avast antivirus free www.avast.com
superantispyware http://www.superantispyware.com/
malwarebytes http://malwarebytes.org/
you have to usually run more than one program to completly remove the spyware infection. If you cant get rid of it let me know and i can log in to your computer with logmein technician console. I use it daily for my clients.
pocomoonskyeyes
01-28-2010, 12:42 PM
My 2 worth. I have malwarebytes from iYogi, super antispyware, AVG,and ccleaner. Malwarebytes is a program that you have to pay for(at least I did with my iYogi services) Yet some stuff (mostly adware and such) still manages to get through. I try to run most if not all daily. Still for some reason (probably due to the age of my PC) i have problems.
One advantage (for me) is that with my iYogi account,I have tech support on call 24/7/365. If there is something I can't figure out or handle there is someone I can call or message to correct the problem. I have already used there services enough to more than enough to justify the price,as I am not all that "techy".They have saved my PC 2 or 3 times now. They may still have work to do yet.
Some programs pick up things that others miss. Most notably super anti-spyware. It picks up stuff the others miss(adware and junk).
Just last week AVG saved me from opening the latest Virus going around. "UPS Delivery,Tracking number XXXXXX" that came in an e-mail.I was expecting packages too,at the time,and thought it was a valid E-mail.When I tried opening it AVG told me it was a virus and would not let me open it. (Thank Goodness)
OK so there are many "Freeware" and "Shareware" programs out there that can help you save your PC. What are you waiting for? If someone offered you Free Total coverage on your Car insurance I'll bet you would jump all over the opportunity. Yet some of us use our PC more than our vehicle, and don't get protection. Why? I certainly use my PC more than my truck, yet I was one of those that had to learn the hard way. All I'm saying is don't make the same mistake I did. Do a little research,and get protection NOW! I think my PC may have suffered some permanent damage and got protection too late...well better late than never. Otherwise y'all would have never got to know me, or I, you. I can't say y'all would have missed much not having me,But I know I would have missed a LOT not having y'all.
Winnie
01-28-2010, 01:14 PM
Thanks for the heads up Rick, I'm a bit careful about where things have come from and Dr Kaspersky is very vigilant!
Another word of warning, be careful where you get these "free" security programmes from, some have allsorts embedded in them.
rwc1969
01-28-2010, 10:32 PM
Nothing is free these days. But, the above mentioned ones are good for removing stuff and I've heard AVAST is good, but don't know first hand. I see an awful lot of posts on the malware forums I visit from people using AVAST and such though, so it must not be too good.
AVG8? let's all kinds of stuff thru. The old AVG was good, AVG7?, it's been so long I forgot, but I actually got a virus from their update server so I sent em a nasty letter and quit using it. Many people got viruses from AVG's update server.
Kaspersky, McCaffee and Norton let some stuff thru, and Norton or "symantec" causes apps to hang. But, Kaspersky is by far the best and rated so by many. I like Kaspersky, but I back up all important stuff and only use one machine for surfing. I also accept the slow downs and inability to view certain material on the net which comes with Kaspersky. Basically, if your anti virus isn't slowing you down it's not working or you have an extremely fast machine. Honestly, I think most viruses come from people watching free porn on the net, MySpace and places like that. Cybersex can get you a virus too, who'da thunk it? LOL! If I were gonna do that I'd get a cheap Linux machine and use it for only that one purpose.
I know how to back up, restore from backup and re-install my OS so I'm covered. Unless you back up and know how to restore your data or know someone who will do it for you you are risking a whole lot. Especially if you use that machine for banking, business and such. Considering the high cost and lost time of having a virus removed or paying for data recovery which could be hundreds or thousands of dollars this is the best plan.
If you get a virus you can just re-install your OS and recover all your data in just a couple hours or less with no cost. Even if you pay someone to do it it's much less than having a virus removed and you don't run as high a risk of losing data. There's guys on Craigslist that will do it for 40 or 50 bucks. Besides, you should re-format and re-install your OS annually anyhoo, because of all the junk that gets loaded into it from God knows where.
Also, I store all my important stuff on external drives so if my system crashes I can use any computer to still access my data, pictures, documents and such. But, you have to be very careful about using public computers to view or transmit personal data. Actually you shouldn't use public computers for that.
I'd be real careful using CCleaner or any other registry cleaner as I've seen people ruin their setup trying to clean the registry. Even the most experienced people advise against using registry cleaners. The only right way to clean the registry is to go in and manually remove stuff, but that requires a little know how. Basically, if your registry is overloaded with crap it's time to re-install and get a fresh start. It would probably take less time and you would end up with a much better result.
I've not had a virus since I started paying for Kaspersky, but last year I had a virus stuffed on my flash drive from school, a public computer, along with many other students. It was actually hundreds of viruses and malware all set to look like your documents and settings. When I plugged the flash drive in at home Kaspersky slammed the hell out of it and wiped it out. All I had to do was say yes when Kaspersky asked me if I wanted to remove the viruses and such. KIS actually went into the system behind the scenes after restart and removed everything 100%. All I had to do was click the mouse button two or three times.
I get KIS, Kaspersky Internet Security, through Amazon for about 30 bucks a year and it's the only protection I have other than me personally keeping up on things. A little over 50 cents a week is a bargain to me and I'm a very fruegal kinda guy.
After saying all that though, :), I did just upgrade my OS, because my OS's HDD was getting overloaded. Now it makes me wonder if it was actually a virus I got here that KIS overlooked. No biggee if it was because my system was due for an overhaul and I got Windows 7 pro for 30 bucks thru school. The whole process took 40 minutes and I basically have a brand new machine. I loaded all my docs, pics, programs and such back on in another couple hours.
If you get an original OS install/ setup disk with your computer or OS and you make a back up before making any changes, performing a complete re-install is easy. And Windows 7 makes the whole process much easier. It automates most everything and has a good back up program built into it that will import all your settings and such from your old setup. All you have to do is click the mouse button. It will do automatic back ups and create a system disk and a restore disk if you want it to.
I'm no fan of paying for OS's or AV protection, but Windows 7 and Kaspersky are well worth the $$.
your_comforting_company
01-28-2010, 11:40 PM
bitdefender offers a free online scanner and malware cleaner as well.. I must say that the program has let a few through when they were brand new.. I should update more often, but AVG is a butt-saver!
When this one expires, I'll be replacing it with Kaspersthingymabob. Thanks for the reviews.
pocomoonskyeyes
02-05-2010, 10:34 AM
Well a "Worm" managed to do my old PC in. Even though the programs I had and was using detected it, they could not defeat it. So we ended up getting a newer PC. We are now using "Trend" I think it is called, from "The Geek Squad". I just thought I would mention it as I don't recall seeing anyone else listing it.
Neither PC Net nor CNET seem to rate them very favorably. Frankly, I've never heard of them.
http://download.cnet.com/Trend-Micro-AntiVirus-plus-AntiSpyware-32-bit/3000-2239_4-10440657.html
http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/324721/review/antivirus_plus_antispyware_2010.html
Winnie
02-05-2010, 11:53 AM
Everything what RWC said. I've used Kaspersky for years and never had a problem. It's worth every single penny of it's asking price and quietly works away behind the scenes. I don't use registry cleaners, I tried C-cleaner on my old laptop and it messed it up. I would imagine they're OK if you know what you're doing, I don't.
your_comforting_company
02-06-2010, 08:10 AM
I guess I'll go ahead and fess up.. I got the virus on my KIDS computer... I thought I had it gone, but there was a hidden startup file under the same/similar name as my bitdefender files.. That computer is trashed... gonna have to reformat it to remove the virus, apparently. I have tried every single AVscan listed here, and one or two from other places. Either I gotta come off $70 for new software, or reformat.. the latter of which is the most affordable right now.
Bitdefender is junk. I called their 24/7/365 tech support and the number for the US is disconnected.. so I tried the canada hotline and it now goes to some Petrol cleanup team like 1-800-Got-Junk.... well, thats what I got.. junk. once a week it seems to need reinstalling / repairing, then there's patches needed to even get it to update..
Stay away from BitDefender, you're throwing your money away.
Work is picking up and I'm getting back to financial stability (slowly) so hopefully AVG will hold me until I can afford Kaspersky (BTW, their online scanner is broken).. now I gotta go reformat the kids pc
pocomoonskyeyes
02-06-2010, 10:16 AM
For those who use "Photobucket", it seems that it has a virus there(this from another Forum I am on) If you click on the x or "close" box on the ad pop ups you will download a virus on your PC. To avoid this, click on any place OTHER than the pop up(like if you wanted it to go into the background).
Also, there is an "Anti virus" program that will download on your PC. It is not an antivirus program!! It is the virus. This is what happened to me. It is only is the first wave in an attack that will kill your PC,it ends up with a worm and several Trojans, etc. It is an attack that does NOT stop, it just gets worse!! Eventually you can not even go into "Safe mode", or log on to your PC at all!!
canid
02-06-2010, 11:02 AM
had to reinstall winxp on my lady's notebook yesterday.
there have been a lot of browser vulnerabilities published recently, so it was only a matter of time before some new malware was deployed to exploit it.
long story short; she doesn't like to run an internet security suite or av because it interferes with her browsing; and learned a lesson after visiting a lyrics site and ended up with a rootkit which killed spybot s&d, hijacked her browser and quite persistently advertised a fake antivirus in response to any page request.
i didn't attempt to do any forensics, since she needed the box restored ASAP [i would have loved to], but i suspect it implemented one of the several remote vulnerabilities reported for IE in january, which effect numerous versions from IE 6 through 8 [addressed KB-978207 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978207)] and which allow arbitrary code execution.
a hotfix for these vulnerabilities was released on the first of this month; 4 days before the incident.
moral: keep up wtih your updates, particularly if you forgo hardening your browsing and everyday computing environment. this is why my windows box is virtualized in a VM sandbox, and can be restored to it's post install state with the push of a button [even this can not be relied upon concretely as, for examble, another major guest isolation vulnerability was recently published for VMWare. i don't use VMWare atm, but it again proves that there is no guarantee]
these days; you do not have to open a funny email, or follow a spoofed link to have your box owned by e-criminals. they can opperate seemingly legitimate sites, anonymize their domain registration through rouge, criminal registrars and hosting services like the RBN, and operate from countries where it's not even considerd a crime to steal foreign [read: your] identities for resale.
canid
02-06-2010, 11:19 AM
For those who use "Photobucket", it seems that it has a virus there(this from another Forum I am on) If you click on the x or "close" box on the ad pop ups you will download a virus on your PC. To avoid this, click on any place OTHER than the pop up(like if you wanted it to go into the background).
Also, there is an "Anti virus" program that will download on your PC. It is not an antivirus program!! It is the virus. This is what happened to me. It is only is the first wave in an attack that will kill your PC,it ends up with a worm and several Trojans, etc. It is an attack that does NOT stop, it just gets worse!! Eventually you can not even go into "Safe mode", or log on to your PC at all!!
the photobucket incident you are referring to is most likely an XSS/man in the middle attack, where the victim is manipulated to view photobucket through an illegitimate site transparently. this is often done with browser redirection, or host file manipulation. these have been around for years but are becomming increasingly more sophisticated. it could also be a simpler form of site spoofing.
the fake antivirus scam has been around at least as long.
what these attacks have in common is the set of methodologies employed, which are adopted every time a breakthrough is made by the perpetrators of every kind of data-mining scam.
i don't like to be as 'doom and gloom' as some others, or as paranoid, but in the field of internet security and cyber-crime, the threat is real. we are lucky that such a bulk as is is being applied to advertising and marketing manipulation. it's far better than some of the other applications which are on the rise.
http://www.fbi.gov/pressrel/pressrel03/spoofing072103.htm
canid
02-06-2010, 11:42 AM
another fine stop-gap, which can never be complete or current, but can help immensely for known malicious hosts, is one of the many DNS blacklists on the net.
evne spybot uses a [relatively] small blacklist as a part of it's immunization proccess. this is a set of domains and ip addresses which are added to the hosts file, and directed to your loopback [localhost], effectively telling your computer to look at itself and give up, rather than try to find those sites.
canid
02-06-2010, 11:46 AM
the FBI's pr writers wouldn't know a url spoof from an xss/xshm from an arp cache poisoning attack.
luckily, their cybercrime investigative division does.
your_comforting_company
02-06-2010, 12:20 PM
the anti-spyware spoof is exactly the virus I got. It is a real mess.. not sure if even reformatting will help. but I notice every time I reboot the computer, it takes longer and longer to shut down. Luckily all my data was backed up before we got the virus, so it's not a big deal to me, but the kids data... well, I just hope they put it on a cd lol. no telling what is infected by the worm so there's no use backing it up now.
It is an xss hack. here's a fix that is supposed to work, but I haven't tried it yet. got stuff to do today so maybe later (sons birthday :D)http://siri.urz.free.fr/Fix/SmitfraudFix.exe
the virus is carried by the confinker.e worm and uses the "sysguard" facade, which is the virus itself.. do not under any circumstance buy the software.. you will give them your credit card number... it's apparently a redirect and image-executer virus. it has been known for a long time that myspace has redirect bugs that allow hijackers to pick up and implant.
bad stuff. luckily this computer is okay.. just old and slow like me ;)
canid
02-06-2010, 12:26 PM
a reformat will fix it. as long as the bootloader is also remove, and reinstalled [fresh windows install], there is no possibility of it not removing it.
what i twill not do is fix the vulnerability vector. to fix that, you will have to stop using the service which was compromised until you are patched against the vulnerability, or it will only happen again.
That is why I use Norton. Not that it's any better than McAfee or others but it's a brand name that does a good job. I don't have to worry about some fool trying to rip me off. Sometimes, you get what you pay for.
canid
02-06-2010, 01:33 PM
you shouldn't trust any antivirus, firewall or ips too much. there's only so much comfort in deadbolting the door when the window is propped open.
a lot of malware takes surprisingly little modification to become completely undetectable by even the better regarded security scanners, and none of them deal with 0day threats, which are more common than ever.
I couldn't agree more. I was just comparing and contrasting AV software. I have multiple levels of security and so far, (knock on wood) I've been lucky. There's hardly a day that goes by I don't receive a notice that some threat has been identified and either removed or quarantined. But you are correct. No one should think they are protected with only one or two levels of security.
Batch
02-06-2010, 04:51 PM
I use Eset Smart Security, EMSi A-squared Free, and Malwarebytes Anti-Malware.
I also use Adblock Plus in Firefox.
I just got bombarded by some Trojan spyware (medium threat) that seems to be attacking my Symantec Anti-virus software!
Symantec and Spyware Doctor each just notified me of about 20 attempts in the last 3 minutes.
I think I'll log off and run some anti-virus software. Catch you all in a little while!
your_comforting_company
02-07-2010, 12:37 PM
stay away from photobucket gang.. the whole place is hacked. the ads on the redirect advertisements are tearing up pcs everywhere.. do a search for photobucket virus and see what turns up.. this bug (that we got) infects and disables your antivirus, etc. If stuff starts popping up from antivirus software that you don't have, then you got the bug.
good luck Ken!
crashdive123
02-07-2010, 01:03 PM
I use Photobucket all the time and haven't noticed a problem. I never click on the pop up ads though.
canid
02-07-2010, 01:44 PM
yeah, i don't think photobucket has been compromised, i think your browser configuration and possibly host file have.
Batch
02-07-2010, 03:54 PM
I don't get popups on photobucket and I use it all the time.
your_comforting_company
02-07-2010, 06:21 PM
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&num=20&q=photobucket+virus+2010&aq=0&aqi=g1&oq=photobucket+virus+&fp=775ba2ba7015c9c3
since I have no interest in ebay, here's a discussion about it.. it's popping up everywhere. http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Photos-Html/Virus-Caught-At/520181984
go down to the 4th or 6th posts and you'll see.. stay away from photobucket for a while. After I fixed the virus a week ago, it came back.. you might be infected and it just hasn't blown up yet.. be careful.. this thing is bad and it's spreading everywhere... anyone heard from Ken since he went to debug his pc?
I've been fighting with this thing all day.. not sure if I've beaten it yet.. I hate computers
I seem to recall Photobucket getting hacked a year or so ago. I will place good money on the fact that there are multiple viruses embedded in photos on their site and any other site that allows outside folks to post to them. The problem for the user is not the fact that the virus is there but to keep it from gaining access to your PC. There's hardly a day that goes by that some email spam comes in and Norton tells me it was infected.
I'm sure photobucket scrubs their data and looks for viruses but I don't think they could get 100% of them every minute of every day. There has to be some lag there. If you happen upon a photo that hasn't been scanned yet and your don't have AV software or your software doesn't handle that particular virus then you'll have a problem.
canid
02-07-2010, 07:43 PM
i don't know anything about them being hacked [and haven't found anything substantial in any whitepapers still], but there have been multiple vulnerabilities in the last couple years in session authentication, etc. which allow cross site scripting attacks, global viewability of private albums/media.
the point again is that if your browser has been compromised, you have no way to be sure you are viewing the site you believe you are viewing. a site does not have to be compromised for it's users view of reality to be manipulated.
gif/jpeg parsing vulnerabilities are not common, but they certainly do happen from time to time.
pocomoonskyeyes
02-07-2010, 08:58 PM
Which browser do you use Canid? I used Firefox and still got the virus, From what I understand firefox is supposed to be one the best!
canid
02-08-2010, 03:40 AM
it is one of the best, but as i said, nothing is prepared against 0day vulnerabilities.
i use Mozilla, but i use it on a linux platform, which is still susceptible to some browser attacks, but not any that require the execution of microsoft proprietary libraries.
I'm using Firefox as well. It's a great platform as far as I'm concerned but you have to stop the attack at the front door.
Here's the info on the Hack. Looks like a June 2008 date based on the article.
http://photography.about.com/b/2008/06/19/photobucket-hacked-again.htm
rwc1969
02-08-2010, 03:56 PM
I'm afraid to even click on links about viruses and such. Maybe the links have the viruses. Canid, you sound quite knowledgable about internet security. Do you work in the field?
Actually, he's a virus posing as a knowledgeable person. Tricky buggers.
2dumb2kwit
02-08-2010, 07:45 PM
I'm afraid to even click on links about viruses and such. Maybe the links have the viruses. Canid, you sound quite knowledgable about internet security. Do you work in the field?
Now you're just being silly.........We all know that most computers are indoors! :innocent: LOL
Well, ..........:innocent:
Symantec sucks. Comcast Security Suite sucks. Spyware Doctor couldn't fix it, and Microsoft Malicious Software Removal is a waste of time.
I got slammed AGAIN last night when I was on the Forums, just about to give Poco a hard time about something or other. :innocent: Every night, around 8:00 and 11:00, that friggin Trojan would attack. Usually, spy-doc would stop it. Not last night. Nope.
My regular computer is in the hospital today. :blushing: I'm using an older Dell from my Rhode Island house, at least until tomorrow. The thing's so slow, I think I'm gonna' turn the television on. :sneaky2:
pocomoonskyeyes
02-08-2010, 09:34 PM
Here Ken let me refresh your memory!!
http://www.wilderness-survival.net/forums/showthread.php?p=191353#post191353
your_comforting_company
02-08-2010, 10:33 PM
what was the name of the trojan Ken? do you know?
Are you running high speed modem as in cable? Always on? Is so, what version of AV are your using? You have to have a firewall with always on. If you don't have a firewall then the rest of the stuff is almost useless. I'm running Norton 360.
rwc1969
02-09-2010, 12:52 AM
Maybe we'll have to start calling you TROJAN MAN Ken.
I hear even phones and such can get viruses now.
pretty soon our cars, appliances and such will get em too.
Okay. My head was going a completely different direction with that first line. I'm sure glad you cleared that up.
crashdive123
02-09-2010, 08:27 AM
Okay. My head was going a completely different direction with that first line. I'm sure glad you cleared that up.
I was thinking the same thing until I realized he probably meant.....
http://www.logodesignworks.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/trojan-man.gif
pocomoonskyeyes
02-09-2010, 09:52 AM
Ok does a router act as an extra firewall?
pocomoonskyeyes
02-10-2010, 02:58 PM
I just lost my desktop (brand new) to that darn virus again. It will be a week before a tech can remove the virus.I'm glad we got a laptop as well!Otherwise I would be unable to get on the web at all!! It would not be appropriate for me to say on the forum what I would like to do to whoever is responsible for this virus!! As soon as I saw it on my PC I shut it down to limit the damage it could do. that is twice in one week. One PC each time. I am hoping that my laptop is better protected.
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Pal334
02-10-2010, 03:35 PM
Someof those trojans thingies are hard to remove. I have three on my machine that Symantec has quarented(however that is spelled). Others you have to go to your anti virus site and get instructions for manual removal (no, not a hammer). Good luck
rwc1969
02-10-2010, 03:36 PM
That is crazy! Did the new system come with AV protection?
pocomoonskyeyes
02-10-2010, 03:56 PM
That is crazy! Did the new system come with AV protection?
Yes it did. Trend. If you ever think about blowing $40 on my ad vice is to take the$40,dip it in kerosene and light it. You'll get better use than by buying Trend AV. (At least by burning the money you will produce some heat)
your_comforting_company
02-10-2010, 07:22 PM
SOME routers have built-in firewalls. Most do not unless it says specifically that it does, and then it has to be updated almost daily, same as AV software. You might check with your ISP about using a proxy server.. that bounces your IP all over the place and makes it harder to target you (supposedly). Maybe CanID will post some better pointers. MajorGeeks (url left out) solved my problems poco I can pm you the link if you want to try it yourself. If it's okay with the mods I can post the link here for anyone else wanting to try removing it themselves.
One major thing that everyone needs to do is completely uninstall SunJava and all it's patches and updates, etc. and completely reinstall fresh, up-to-date Java. some part of the bug was hiding in my old Java and after removal, the worm was still on the PC, and thats why I got it a second time. Flushing restore points is also a good idea for everyone.
I've also read about an igoogle exploit going around with overlays and redirects.. watch what you click on... I'm not using google or photobucket for a while...
rebel
02-10-2010, 07:28 PM
I really thank you for helping to block them 'Chinee spam 'bots."
rwc1969
02-10-2010, 07:49 PM
that sucks poco, I almost got Trend micro when I switched to kaspersky from norton.
Kaspersky has a software firewall that is fairly configurabe, but I don't know much about it. I'm just starting to learn about firewalls, networking and such at school.
I've actually learned a lot about computers, but it's hard for me to remember the stuff if I'm not practicing it almost daily.
A year ago I had my firewall and network configured so almost nothing could get thru, if I did that now I probably wouldn't even be able to get online. LOL!
We are highly trained warriors on the cutting edge of science. The three of us ride the net like bounty hunters gunning down bots in the middle of a dusty street. Where danger lurks is where you'll find us. Always on the wall. Always on alert.
"This warrior thing stinks."
"That was me. Sorry."
http://images.travelpod.com/users/cobra1899/pauls_journey.1199124180.3-old-guys.jpg
your_comforting_company
02-10-2010, 07:53 PM
I gotta get me some of them warrior shoes!!
Winnie
02-11-2010, 06:13 AM
Oh, I see the F.A.R.Ts have their Technical Incident Team (T.I.T) fully manned now.:innocent:
Now that's funny I don't care who you are.
I'm back! And guess what....... :sneaky2:
It wasn't a virus or the Trojan that killed my computer, it was the damn Comcast Security Suite that put it in the hospital.
I learned that my Symantec isn't the run-of-the-mill over the counter Norton version, but rather some souped-up corporate network version that's a lot more powerful. It's been on this computer since I got it and a friend and I loaded the software.
So, about 2 weeks ago, Comcast sends me this mailer telling me that I should download its Security Suite because it's just the best. The flier says that it's compatable with Symantec (yeah, right).
Well, the Trojan I was worried about was in quarantine in Symantec, and that damn Comcast program kept trying to transfer it and quarantine it itself. Then Spy Doctor got involved and kept stopping Comcast.
Comcast was working so hard to do the unnecessary that it was using over 90% of my memory. Then, Comcast was also fighting with my Window Washer at the same time, and
BECAUSE OF COMCAST I DIDN'T HAVE A COMPUTER AT HOME FOR 3 DAYS!!!
Come to think of it, this thing was working just fine UNTIL I loaded the Comcast Suite and then it started to slow down.
My computer techie removed Comcast and the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal routine.
For now, I'm just gonna' run with Symantec and Spy Doctor, which seem to work well together.
And now, I'm gonna' go look at what Stargazer and 2dumb wrote about me. They both called me and told me they were gonna' bust my chops here, and I'll bet that Rick joined in the party as well. Now where is that thread..........:sneaky2:
welderguy
02-12-2010, 08:54 PM
Glad your back Ken.
Glad your back Ken.
Thanks, my friend!
How are the ribs doing? :innocent:
Ya, me too even though you mean mouthed me for no good reason.
Ya, me too even though you mean mouthed me for no good reason.
Me???? mean-mouth MY FRIEND RICK????
Which post was that? :innocent:
pocomoonskyeyes
02-12-2010, 10:47 PM
well I am now on the laptop(which I type even worse on)and have gotten rid of all those other AV programs and now I am running on Kaspersky!! I feel a seense of relief. So I know how you feel Ken.
Justin Case
02-12-2010, 11:41 PM
I Use McAfee and Malewarebytes,,, , The latter is the best for detection and removal , but the free version does not have a real time scanner,, but the two together work ok,, I installed Malewarebytes and it found 44 infections that McAfee didn't detect,, You can visit this site for Reviews and info on every anti virus program there is,, http://issviews.com/forum/index.php?sid=bce9464cac3556249e10f6708b558de0
pete lynch
02-13-2010, 07:47 AM
I use and recommend Avast free edition, CCleaner and Malwarebytes free edition.
AVG can eventually slow a computer to a crawl. I have seen many comps return to previous speeds just by switching from AVG to Avast.
(It also helps to run a de-fragmenter via Scheduled Tasks. (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/555098) )
I also disable System Restore because those nasties are frequently copied to the System Restore points.
Do a real back up. I have personally used Linux as my OS of choice for about 12 years now and I use a free utility called Partimage (http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page) to make a restoreable image( to a cd/dvd or a seperate hard drive partition.) of a freshly installed system.
Partimage also works with windows filesystems.
Justin Case
04-29-2010, 09:41 PM
Bump...,,,,,,,,
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Huma (http://gallduct.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:37 AM
Mika (http://galvanometric.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:38 AM
Flow (http://gangforeman.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:39 AM
clas (http://gangwayplatform.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:40 AM
Davi (http://garbagechute.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:41 AM
Orie (http://gardeningleave.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:42 AM
Roge (http://gascautery.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:44 AM
Rond (http://gashbucket.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:45 AM
Anne (http://gasreturn.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:46 AM
Quin (http://gatedsweep.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:47 AM
Fash (http://gaugemodel.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:48 AM
Davi (http://gaussianfilter.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:49 AM
Tefa (http://gearpitchdiameter.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:50 AM
Atla (http://geartreating.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:51 AM
Samb (http://generalizedanalysis.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:53 AM
Vero (http://generalprovisions.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:54 AM
Vesu (http://geophysicalprobe.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:55 AM
Cred (http://geriatricnurse.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:56 AM
Rhiz (http://getintoaflap.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:57 AM
Cera (http://getthebounce.ru)
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02-22-2026, 11:58 AM
XVII (http://habeascorpus.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 11:59 AM
Robb (http://habituate.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:00 PM
Mava (http://hackedbolt.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:02 PM
Alej (http://hackworker.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:03 PM
Vira (http://hadronicannihilation.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:04 PM
Hand (http://haemagglutinin.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:05 PM
Taft (http://hailsquall.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:06 PM
Brau (http://hairysphere.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:07 PM
Lady (http://halforderfringe.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:08 PM
Safe (http://halfsiblings.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:10 PM
Mine (http://hallofresidence.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:11 PM
Cred (http://haltstate.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:12 PM
Palo (http://handcoding.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:13 PM
Marc (http://handportedhead.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:14 PM
Main (http://handradar.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:15 PM
Bino (http://handsfreetelephone.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:16 PM
Spla (http://hangonpart.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:18 PM
Inva (http://haphazardwinding.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:19 PM
Bell (http://hardalloyteeth.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:20 PM
Maki (http://hardasiron.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:21 PM
Jero (http://hardenedconcrete.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:22 PM
Szul (http://harmonicinteraction.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:23 PM
Matt (http://hartlaubgoose.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:24 PM
Mari (http://hatchholddown.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:25 PM
Circ (http://haveafinetime.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:27 PM
York (http://hazardousatmosphere.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:28 PM
Valu (http://headregulator.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:29 PM
Blac (http://heartofgold.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:30 PM
Turb (http://heatageingresistance.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:31 PM
Arth (http://heatinggas.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:32 PM
Habi (http://heavydutymetalcutting.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:33 PM
Alan (http://jacketedwall.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:34 PM
Dian (http://japanesecedar.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:36 PM
avan (http://jibtypecrane.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:37 PM
Sela (http://jobabandonment.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:38 PM
Niki (http://jobstress.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 12:39 PM
Symp (http://jogformation.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:40 PM
Jewe (http://jointcapsule.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:41 PM
Nasc (http://jointsealingmaterial.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:42 PM
Wind (http://journallubricator.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:43 PM
Shar (http://juicecatcher.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:45 PM
Maur (http://junctionofchannels.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:46 PM
Maya (http://justiciablehomicide.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:47 PM
Tirs (http://juxtapositiontwin.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:48 PM
Dolb (http://kaposidisease.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:49 PM
Walt (http://keepagoodoffing.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:50 PM
Geor (http://keepsmthinhand.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:51 PM
XVII (http://kentishglory.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:52 PM
FIFA (http://kerbweight.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:54 PM
gold (http://kerrrotation.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:55 PM
RAMS (http://keymanassurance.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:56 PM
Sims (http://keyserum.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:57 PM
Simo (http://kickplate.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:58 PM
Swar (http://killthefattedcalf.ru)
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02-22-2026, 12:59 PM
Sexu (http://kilowattsecond.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:00 PM
Zone (http://kingweakfish.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:01 PM
Last (http://kinozones.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:03 PM
Naso (http://kleinbottle.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:04 PM
Brad (http://kneejoint.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:05 PM
Para (http://knifesethouse.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:06 PM
Wind (http://knockonatom.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:07 PM
Arts (http://knowledgestate.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:08 PM
Roba (http://kondoferromagnet.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:09 PM
XVII (http://labeledgraph.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:11 PM
Happ (http://laborracket.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:12 PM
PURE (http://labourearnings.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:13 PM
Alca (http://labourleasing.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:14 PM
Davi (http://laburnumtree.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:15 PM
Toge (http://lacingcourse.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:16 PM
Sidn (http://lacrimalpoint.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:17 PM
Life (http://lactogenicfactor.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:18 PM
Tsug (http://lacunarycoefficient.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:20 PM
What (http://ladletreatediron.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:21 PM
Patr (http://laggingload.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:22 PM
Dyna (http://laissezaller.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:23 PM
Desm (http://lambdatransition.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:24 PM
Expe (http://laminatedmaterial.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:25 PM
Emir (http://lammasshoot.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:26 PM
XVII (http://lamphouse.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:27 PM
Arch (http://lancecorporal.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:29 PM
Crav (http://lancingdie.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:30 PM
TomT (http://landingdoor.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:31 PM
Crus (http://landmarksensor.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:32 PM
Henr (http://landreform.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:33 PM
ETSB (http://landuseratio.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:34 PM
Cham (http://languagelaboratory.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:35 PM
Nouv (http://largeheart.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:36 PM
Umog (http://lasercalibration.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:38 PM
MPEG (http://laserlens.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:39 PM
Trad (http://laserpulse.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:40 PM
most (http://laterevent.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:41 PM
Miel (http://latrinesergeant.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:42 PM
Gore (http://layabout.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:43 PM
Forz (http://leadcoating.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:44 PM
Prom (http://leadingfirm.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:46 PM
Disc (http://learningcurve.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:47 PM
Anim (http://leaveword.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:48 PM
Swar (http://machinesensible.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:49 PM
This (http://magneticequator.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:50 PM
Texa (http://magnetotelluricfield.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:51 PM
Kirs (http://mailinghouse.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:52 PM
Gigl (http://majorconcern.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:53 PM
Adri (http://mammasdarling.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:55 PM
VALG (http://managerialstaff.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:56 PM
Jewe (http://manipulatinghand.ru)
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02-22-2026, 01:57 PM
Pari (http://manualchoke.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:58 PM
Kirk (http://medinfobooks.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 01:59 PM
Avan (http://mp3lists.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:00 PM
Vali (http://nameresolution.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:01 PM
Aero (http://naphtheneseries.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:02 PM
Stan (http://narrowmouthed.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:04 PM
Kotl (http://nationalcensus.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:05 PM
Batu (http://naturalfunctor.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:06 PM
Arma (http://navelseed.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:07 PM
Wind (http://neatplaster.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:08 PM
Wind (http://necroticcaries.ru)
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02-22-2026, 02:09 PM
Wind (http://negativefibration.ru)
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02-22-2026, 02:10 PM
Intr (http://neighbouringrights.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:12 PM
Worl (http://objectmodule.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:13 PM
Oreg (http://observationballoon.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:14 PM
BOSC (http://obstructivepatent.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:15 PM
City (http://oceanmining.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:16 PM
Pedi (http://octupolephonon.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:17 PM
Glen (http://offlinesystem.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:19 PM
Robe (http://offsetholder.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:20 PM
Wind (http://olibanumresinoid.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:21 PM
mono (http://onesticket.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:22 PM
Demo (http://packedspheres.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:23 PM
Snak (http://pagingterminal.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:24 PM
Spec (http://palatinebones.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:26 PM
Odoy (http://palmberry.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:27 PM
Utop (http://papercoating.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:28 PM
Noth (http://paraconvexgroup.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:29 PM
Musi (http://parasolmonoplane.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:30 PM
Chri (http://parkingbrake.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:31 PM
Hert (http://partfamily.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:32 PM
XVII (http://partialmajorant.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:33 PM
Grou (http://quadrupleworm.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:35 PM
Alfr (http://qualitybooster.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:36 PM
VIII (http://quasimoney.ru)
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02-22-2026, 02:37 PM
Come (http://quenchedspark.ru)
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02-22-2026, 02:38 PM
Reck (http://quodrecuperet.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:39 PM
Pres (http://rabbetledge.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:40 PM
Svet (http://radialchaser.ru)
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02-22-2026, 02:42 PM
Dona (http://radiationestimator.ru)
yellowcab
02-22-2026, 02:43 PM
This (http://railwaybridge.ru)
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02-22-2026, 02:44 PM
Ther (http://randomcoloration.ru)
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02-22-2026, 02:45 PM
Bori (http://rapidgrowth.ru)
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