To all members under the age of 18.

[Sarge47]

Do you think that the rest of the members should consider you a knowledgeable source on Survival? Yes or no. Explain why. :cool2:

[FVR]

I think that they should post their age on the posts so we know. Different speaking with a 40 year old and a 15 year old.

[Sarge47]

I think that they should post their age on the posts so we know. Different speaking with a 40 year old and a 15 year old.
While I totally agree with you, Frank, how would we know if someone isn't lying? :cool2:

[owl_girl]

i have a cousin who is 15 and i consider her a a knowledgeable source on survival. even before she was 15 i did. she was raised without running water or electricity and grew a lot of her own food up in northers MN and knows a good bit on wild edibles, knows how to gut and skin an animal. she has so mush experience and a very calm, mature, hard working personality when in a serious position. she is the strongest girl i ever met.

i understand your view on the younger generation being overly confident and lacking humility but dont go to the extreme of totally disregarding of blowing off someone because of their age. i dont think its fair to automatically develop preconceived notions that someone dosnt have real knowledge because of their age. many younger people in my family who are quite knowledgeable from real experiences and i have learned from them.

[rwc1969]

I'm over 18, but ...

I don't equate age with knowledge or experience. I know plenty of older folks that are about as dumb as a box of rocks. That doesn't mean I disrespect my elders. It means that age has nothing to do with experience. Also, there's plenty of younger folks that know more than me.

I've worked many jobs, among other things, and usually found myself surpassing the older bunch. Mainly because I took their advice and then improvised upon it. So, my experinece was theirs+ mine. They were then usually too proud to listen to my advice so their knowledge and experience didn't improve. They figured they already knew it all. So, I became more knowledgable and experienced than them.

I'm a much better and far more experienced "all around" hunter, fisher, gatherer than any of my uncles and even my dad. I was a better fisherman at age 15. Why? because I listened to what they did and improved upon it.

I'm a better shroomer than the folks that taught me because I listened to them and improved upon it. How? I questioned their authority.

A guy I worked with had many years experience in water treatment and plumbing. He taught me a lot. The service and install end of things went downhill due to the "do not call list" thang. So, I started selling too. I figured if the salesmen can't sell then I will. That way I have installs to do. Instead of asking me how I sell so well, he and the salesmen and women just gave smart ace remarks about my success. He tried to sell, but didn't know how. They tried to sell, but were stuck in their old ways. They all could have easily asked me how and I would have helped, but instead they kept trying to do it "their" way because "they" were too proud, embarrassed or too experienced to ask help from a young whipper snapper like me.

I believe a person should be judged by their actions, not words, age or anything else. On a forum that's pretty hard to do. We have no way of knowing how old or experienced anyone is unless we've met them in person.

If a person posts something that makes sense that's enough for me. I don't care how old or young they are. I will take it and run with it. I don't care if they're a guy or girl, black, mexican, chinese or white. I'm an equal opportunity learner. :)

Older people should be listened to, because many do have wisdom. Younger people should be listened to as well because they bring a fresh unadulterated perspective. They have new ideas and are generally more in touch with the changing world. Unfortunately, the younger and older generations throughout our entire history have, forthemostpart, overwhelmingly failed to listen.

It's strange how we mature. At a young age we defy our elders and as we get older we wonder why the younger ones defy us. ?? It really makes no sense at all and is one of the reasons our civilization hasn't developed as well as it could have.

[crashdive123]

Nice post RWC.

[Sarge47]

i have a cousin who is 15 and i consider her a a knowledgeable source on survival. even before she was 15 i did. she was raised without running water or electricity and grew a lot of her own food up in northers MN and knows a good bit on wild edibles, knows how to gut and skin an animal. she has so mush experience and a very calm, mature, hard working personality when in a serious position. she is the strongest girl i ever met.

i understand your view on the younger generation being overly confident and lacking humility but dont go to the extreme of totally disregarding of blowing off someone because of their age. i dont think its fair to automatically develop preconceived notions that someone dosnt have real knowledge because of their age. many younger people in my family who are quite knowledgeable from real experiences and i have learned from them.I would agree that the young lady you mention is an experienced survivor; life sometimes has a way of giving some folks the experience & knowledge they need at a young age. I'm assuming she doesn't brag about her ability, or strut around, but just takes care of buisness when she has too, right? :cool2:

[SARKY]

There is a world of difference between knowledge and wisdom. Just look at the staff of this administration, they are highly educated BUT they are moronic loons!

[your_comforting_company]

a bit off topic, but I wan't to say that I'm getting frustrated with the rep system. I wanted to give RWC some rep for that post, but alas, I cannot. :(

I personally don't know anyone under 16 that I would consider an expert on anything to do with surviving. BUT, I have seen posts on here by younger folks that know a heck of a lot more than I do about certain things.

Good information is just that, and it doesn't matter how old the person is, as long as they are sharing wisdom so that we all can learn.

[Camp10]

a bit off topic, but I wan't to say that I'm getting frustrated with the rep system. I wanted to give RWC some rep for that post, but alas, I cannot. :(

Yeah, but I can...and did!:)

[owl_girl]

true sarge.

[Rick]

I suppose some broad generalities can be made but I think folks need to be judged on their own merits. I've seen a couple of teenagers on here recently that seemed to have their heads screwed on pretty straight.....by my standards. Someone else might not agree or might have seen more than a couple. I guess "experience" is in the eye of the beholder as well as the beholdee.

[crashdive123]

If you were to look at the banned members list and exclude the spammers - the number of adults banned for being stupid seems to far outweigh the number of younger members. Not that any conclusions can be drawn from that - just that stupid is as stupid does.

[oly]

I think that they should post their age on the posts so we know. Different speaking with a 40 year old and a 15 year old.

Is this in reference to 2D?:innocent:

[canid]

just that stupid is as stupid does.

i couldn't possibly agree more if i tried.

age may be a factor limiting the opportunity for experience, but some people make better used of what opportunities arise than others, and i would say that if enough are taken, but choice or by need, the average 14 year old young adult has had enough opportunity to learn a great many things.

a member's age is, in my view, entirely secondary to the quality of their experience, understanding and honesty.

if you haven't been schooled at something or other by somebody half you age, you have been walking through life blind in one eye.

[Camp10]

There was another thread from FVR started yesterday about how his 7 year olds could easily spot the Man vs wild mess ups...It is nice to have perspective from all ages.

[canid]

exactly.

for another example, i have been told by older people that i have no place commenting about arthritis. these people had never heard the corn-popping sounds my leg makes when i stand up.

in truth; a car crushing my knee and ten years for my leg to mull the situation over where ample for my knee to make it's own mind up.

[nell67]

exactly.

for another example, i have been told by older people that i have no place commenting about arthritis. these people had never heard the corn-popping sounds my leg makes when i stand up.

in truth; a car crushing my knee and ten years for my leg to mull the situation over where ample for my knee to make it's own mind up.

I feel what you are saying,for me,it is my neck,same reason,car crash with seatbelt but no airbags,that sudden stop was painful,broke my ankle when I locked the brakes down and the impact pushed the pedal bakwards,funny enough,my ankle isn't as painful as my neck.

[canid]

exactly. no two of us have had the same life.

as a community here, we seem to all have much to offer eachother. one of the beauties of the internet [as well as headaches] is that we don't generally see eachother, know eachother's races, ages, etc and have to take eachother at the value of our words.

[Batch]

My niece was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis as a teenager. She could definitely speak about arthritis and pain. To even the most elder member. Ny sons friend was in a wheelchair in his teens from the same disease. When he could walk he was severly crippled. He is able to walk now from surgery. I would not begin to talk of pain to them.

That with my having fell 8 stories to concrete and I turned 18 in the hospital recovering. My legs remind me of that impact by scars, bone growth, and pain. I have two herniated disks causing sever spinal stenosis aggravated by arthritis. I am missing the tip of my toe, a chunk of bone out of my elbow (that still hurts almost 20 years later), broken toes and bones in both hands, crushed bones in several fingers, broken 6 ribs, had teeth knocked out and well over 200 stitches. But, I won't presume to talk to these kids about what pain is...

I had a co-worker who seemed to always do a half arse job. When you told him about it he would point out that he has been doing this for over 40 years. I would point out that he has been doing it wrong for 40 years...:innocent:

[Sarge47]

I'll admit that there are some exceptions, but most young-uns are still at home & never had to make a living on their own or support a family. They haven't as yet, tried to survive life! Some haven't survived puberty yet! FVR's kids have a great teacher in their dad, & should be great teachers themselves! But those whose training comes only off of the Discovery Channel, out of books, or off the internet, isn't, IMO, qualified to offer advice or to call themselves "experts," but instead should be respectful, listen, learn, and ask the right questions. That's not to say they can't post some bit of info they have that can help someone, or talk about something they know about...but it doesn't make them an expert.

Yes we get some adults who are worse than the young-uns at times; like that "Wall of God" dude! But I had no desire to help him. The young-uns, on the other hand...well they're a different story. They deserve the best teaching we can give them!

I'll get off of my soap-box now. :innocent: :cool2:

[canid]

But those whose training comes only off of the Discovery Channel, out of books, or off the internet, isn't, IMO, qualified to offer advice or to call themselves "experts,"

agreed, but that's true of everybody.

luckily, the parroting of 'manuals' and man-vs-wild is easy enough to spot, and speaks for itself.


They deserve the best teaching we can give them!also agreed, and strongly, but and also is, or should be true of everybody willing to learn.

[Aurelius95]

... or should be true of everybody willing to learn.

You cannot teach people who already "know" it. My son, for example, will say he knows how to do something, and then gets frustrated he can't get it right. I offer help, and his response is (again), "I can do it". I let him get a little more frustrated, and then offer again, and he usually will let me help him. The tension between being self-sufficient and needing and asking for assistance is a big part of life.

That being said, I want to model for my son, and others, that it's ok to try on your own, but there is no shame or dishonor in asking for help. Often times, asking for help is the wise thing to do.

[canid]

you sound like my grandpa Archie. dang it, if there's a fancy, creative new hard-way to do something, i'm just determined to try it.

[owl_girl]

well the young ones that are cocky will be humbled in time as i think happens to most of us as we grow up. luckily you dont have to worry about trying to humble them nature dose a much better job. i have learned that trying to humble people who think they are a know it all is a real pain. after telling them the first time if they dont listen its much better to sit back and let them do what they want. they remember the lesson much better that way and come to conclusions on their own. there were times my bf thought some pretty stupid stuff but had a hard head about it so i didnt continue to argue about it and just did what he wanted and then explained why it failed when we were done. hes much wiser now and has learned a lot. so all im saying is relax and dont get to worked up about it.

[Scoobywan]

Age generally isn't a factor for me when it comes to determining whether someone knows what they're doing. If a person tells me they are an expert I generally assume they're not... it's only when other people tell me that someone is an expert that I believe it.

[Durtyoleman]

I wish I could remember half of what I knew as a young man when I knew it all.
But I will listen to almost all and follow advice from those who sound stable and ignore the ones that tell me it can't be done.
D.O.M.

[Beo]

Durty,
You cant ignore them!!! It can't be done because they know everything, so they know you will ignore them hence they won't tell you they know everything because in time you will figure out that they are full of crap.

[FVR]

The problem with age is that as a grown older man, I may say things that adults can deal with. But a young'n may take to serious or get their feelings hurt.

I def. discuss and talk diff. to the likes of Beo, WE, Sarge, and many others than I would a 15 year old kid.

You may be a 15 year old super survivor, but unfortunately you are not mature enough in many diff. areas. Both parties have to be careful.

[smittysurvival]

im hurt sarge. i feel like most of what you said, you were picturing me in your head. i just feel so targeted buddy.

[Sarge47]

im hurt sarge. i feel like most of what you said, you were picturing me in your head. i just feel so targeted buddy.Why do you think I was thinking of you? Can you answer the question? And why do you call me "OLD buddy?" :cool2:

[TucsonMax]

I think that they should post their age on the posts so we know. Different speaking with a 40 year old and a 15 year old.

FVR: I agree w/ you. No matter how experienced a 15 year old is (or thinks he is), I would still want to know he's 15. That doesn't mean I wouldn't value his experience and advice..., but still, I'm over 40 w/ a family. I have responsibilities (as opposed to being someone's responsibility) and I am (we all are!) often making serious, potentially life saving decisions. Such, calls for a little clarity as best it can.

Sometimes I can guess they are teens (used to texting) by their grammar, typing skills and sometimes by their intellectual capacity, sometimes not.

Sarge: If there was a way to differentiate, somehow, that would be a plus.

[klkak]

Just have everyone post there age in their profile. Oh great administrators and moderators of the forum.

[Sarge47]

I was thinking of all the young-uns we have had on here, many who try to sound like Les or Bear, proclaiming themselves "experts" & offering to "teach us." then there are those who are older...physically, but even younger...mentally, like that fellow we're all making fun of right now.

Here's the thing, unless you came out of the womb and you were cast off into a drainage ditch & made it out alive, then took care of yourself until you were, say 12-17; well then, I might consider you experienced to a certain degree; but I would NOT view you as an expert or even a teacher.

If you have the credentials that WE, FVR, Trax, & even Owl-Girl, then I'll hunker down & pay attention. These are folks to "ride the river" with! An over-inflated ego does not prove one an expert...quite the opposite in fact. :cool2:

[klkak]

well put sarge

[Sarge47]

well put sargeShoulda put you in the Trax, FVR, etc list as well! :cool2:

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Shoulda put you in the Trax, FVR, etc list as well! :cool2:

....and Erunkiswildernsssurvival,Pict,.....jes' sayin'

[Sarge47]

....and Erunkiswildernsssurvival,Pict,.....jes' sayin'
...and Your Comforting Company...and the list goes on...& on...& on...:cool2:

[klkak]

Not important Sarge. There are some good folks here as you say to "ride the river" with.

The young and the Numptys find that out.

If Kayos had not been banned he would have left soon enough or been humbled by all the experience and wisdom this site has.

I know I was when I first joined the forum. Humbled that is.

[klkak]

....and Erunkiswildernsssurvival,Pict,.....jes' sayin'

I haven't seen Erumpkis in long time. Where's he hide'n out. I should appologize to him someday for riding him so hard when he first showed up.:blushing:

[Beo]

Very true, I was greatly humbled on this site, so much experience here and I learn something every time I am here.
If you dont then you either are not reading the true posts or dont wanna learn. But in the meantime I have a lot with great group here.
I'm just saying...

[crashdive123]

He moved from Central Florida to Michigan(?). He doesn't get on-line as often, but does from time to time.

[pocomoonskyeyes]

Well I'm glad y'all got past the "Humble stage", I'm still humbled by the amount of experience here. Real "Boots in the field" I mean.

[Rick]

Just have everyone post there age in their profile. Oh great administrators and moderators of the forum.

I just added my age to mine. I'm 22.

[canid]

yeah; i'm 97.

[Rick]

Oh, go on you silly. I know you're over 100.

[crashdive123]

Are you guys suggesting that somebody might put something out there on the www thingie that wasn't so? The shock!:eek: The horror!:eek: It must be trure - the end is near!:eek:

[rwc1969]

here I'm 40. At college I'm 29.

[trax]

Y'know, kind of in defense of Sarge's OP, he asked the younger members to explain why they thought older people should give heed to their wilderness survival advice and I don't think it's wrong to ask anyone of any age to maybe show their credentials here. We kind of do in the intro section anyway. Personally, there's been some advice given on the forum that I knew better than to listen to when I was a lot younger than 18 or 15 or whatever, because that's my background, but similarly, there's some youngsters that log in here that are living a pretty good outdoors life.

Of course those of us a little longer in the tooth are going to be a bit suspect about advice coming from kids, so, explain your credentials a bit, why not? If you have the knowledge it shouldn't hurt your feelings any.

Note to double s, I never thought Sarge was singling you out, we've had a lot of people who've shown themselves to be potential numpties over the years here and I think he's more concerned with that.

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Vrin (http://audiobookkeeper.ru/book/100)

[yellowcab]

48.5 (http://cottagenet.ru/plan/10)

[yellowcab]

Bett (http://eyesvision.ru/better-eyesight-magazine-better-eyesight-1920-03)

[yellowcab]

Bett (http://eyesvisions.com/better-eyesight-magazine-better-eyesight-1920-03)

[yellowcab]

Jump (http://factoringfee.ru/t/137588)

[yellowcab]

Dolb (http://filmzones.ru/t/126424)

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Leon (http://gadwall.ru/t/127023)

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Henr (http://gaffertape.ru/t/189614)

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Alis (http://gageboard.ru/t/232017)

[yellowcab]

SwCA (http://gagrule.ru/t/15495)

[yellowcab]

slow (http://gallduct.ru/t/128225)

[yellowcab]

Snak (http://galvanometric.ru/t/53486)

[yellowcab]

Zyli (http://gangforeman.ru/t/17046)

[yellowcab]

Sifr (http://gangwayplatform.ru/t/24526)

[yellowcab]

Torc (http://garbagechute.ru/t/140069)

[yellowcab]

Char (http://gardeningleave.ru/t/60243)

[yellowcab]

Orie (http://gascautery.ru/t/17082)

[yellowcab]

Prem (http://gashbucket.ru/t/69654)

[yellowcab]

Spir (http://gasreturn.ru/t/121260)

[yellowcab]

Elec (http://gatedsweep.ru/t/121148)

[yellowcab]

Jewe (http://gaugemodel.ru/t/128727)

[yellowcab]

Medi (http://gaussianfilter.ru/t/122961)

[yellowcab]

Stas (http://gearpitchdiameter.ru/t/126486)

[yellowcab]

Wind (http://geartreating.ru/t/177821)

[yellowcab]

Mari (http://generalizedanalysis.ru/t/133353)

[yellowcab]

Ando (http://generalprovisions.ru/t/130731)

[yellowcab]

Wind (http://geophysicalprobe.ru/t/177750)

[yellowcab]

Silv (http://geriatricnurse.ru/t/136006)

[yellowcab]

Mari (http://getintoaflap.ru/t/123619)

[yellowcab]

Ahav (http://getthebounce.ru/t/6949)

[yellowcab]

Cafe (http://habeascorpus.ru/t/172507)

[yellowcab]

Wind (http://habituate.ru/t/183846)

[yellowcab]

Lemo (http://hackedbolt.ru/t/53463)

[yellowcab]

Terr (http://hackworker.ru/t/241168)

[yellowcab]

Carl (http://hadronicannihilation.ru/t/284397)

[yellowcab]

Gera (http://haemagglutinin.ru/t/195642)

[yellowcab]

Ultr (http://hailsquall.ru/t/10238)

[yellowcab]

Nive (http://hairysphere.ru/t/79408)

[yellowcab]

Edwa (http://halforderfringe.ru/t/227281)

[yellowcab]

John (http://halfsiblings.ru/t/277522)

[yellowcab]

Kres (http://hallofresidence.ru/t/187083)

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Moto (http://haltstate.ru/t/99855)

[yellowcab]

Tefa (http://handcoding.ru/t/11810)

[yellowcab]

Sony (http://handportedhead.ru/t/95258)

[yellowcab]

Raze (http://handradar.ru/t/94290)

[yellowcab]

Ahav (http://handsfreetelephone.ru/t/17423)

[yellowcab]

Rica (http://hangonpart.ru/t/1154)

[yellowcab]

Pito (http://haphazardwinding.ru/t/60528)

[yellowcab]

Kate (http://hardalloyteeth.ru/t/43808)

[yellowcab]

Mobi (http://hardasiron.ru/t/27040)

[yellowcab]

John (http://hardenedconcrete.ru/t/106843)

[yellowcab]

Hist (http://harmonicinteraction.ru/t/25804)

[yellowcab]

Onli (http://hartlaubgoose.ru/t/24114)

[yellowcab]

Crim (http://hatchholddown.ru/t/24567)

[yellowcab]

Yosh (http://haveafinetime.ru/t/63320)

[yellowcab]

Blur (http://hazardousatmosphere.ru/t/25188)

[yellowcab]

edal (http://headregulator.ru/t/24191)

[yellowcab]

aris (http://heartofgold.ru/t/19692)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

VIII (http://heatinggas.ru/t/51559)

[yellowcab]

Stou (http://heavydutymetalcutting.ru/t/230810)

[yellowcab]

Barr (http://jacketedwall.ru/t/223696)

[yellowcab]

Cher (http://japanesecedar.ru/t/124713)

[yellowcab]

Mich (http://jibtypecrane.ru/t/123855)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Judi (http://jobstress.ru/t/262207)

[yellowcab]

Clif (http://jogformation.ru/t/186848)

[yellowcab]

Nigh (http://jointcapsule.ru/t/17119)

[yellowcab]

XVII (http://jointsealingmaterial.ru/t/381290)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Aman (http://juicecatcher.ru/t/96659)

[yellowcab]

Bonj (http://junctionofchannels.ru/t/61016)

[yellowcab]

Maci (http://justiciablehomicide.ru/t/26683)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Disn (http://kaposidisease.ru/t/24270)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

DeMa (http://kerrrotation.ru/t/33905)

[yellowcab]

Batt (http://keymanassurance.ru/t/24901)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Jewe (http://kickplate.ru/t/128538)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Dece (http://knockonatom.ru/t/127147)

[yellowcab]

Sony (http://knowledgestate.ru/t/123388)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Slam (http://labeledgraph.ru/t/141554)

[yellowcab]

Soft (http://laborracket.ru/t/155151)

[yellowcab]

diam (http://labourearnings.ru/t/19776)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Wind (http://lacingcourse.ru/t/183499)

[yellowcab]

Ceci (http://lacrimalpoint.ru/t/94091)

[yellowcab]

Tjar (http://lactogenicfactor.ru/t/85594)

[yellowcab]

Exce (http://lacunarycoefficient.ru/t/78173)

[yellowcab]

John (http://ladletreatediron.ru/t/67186)

[yellowcab]

Alex (http://laggingload.ru/t/65079)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Icew (http://lammasshoot.ru/t/24123)

[yellowcab]

Dann (http://lamphouse.ru/t/80773)

[yellowcab]

Poor (http://lancecorporal.ru/t/70024)

[yellowcab]

Conn (http://lancingdie.ru/t/55380)

[yellowcab]

BioW (http://landingdoor.ru/t/24124)

[yellowcab]

Reed (http://landmarksensor.ru/t/125832)

[yellowcab]

Ever (http://landreform.ru/t/127598)

[yellowcab]

Pedr (http://landuseratio.ru/t/123608)

[yellowcab]

Tere (http://languagelaboratory.ru/t/125339)

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[yellowcab]

Jung (http://lasercalibration.ru/shop/95396)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Trai (http://laterevent.ru/shop/19452)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Sims (http://leadcoating.ru/shop/2128)

[yellowcab]

Gorm (http://leadingfirm.ru/shop/11777)

[yellowcab]

Gran (http://learningcurve.ru/shop/69144)

[yellowcab]

ESPR (http://leaveword.ru/shop/17950)

[yellowcab]

Badi (http://machinesensible.ru/shop/9782)

[yellowcab]

Prec (http://magneticequator.ru/shop/94394)

[yellowcab]

plac (http://magnetotelluricfield.ru/shop/11477)

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Valg (http://managerialstaff.ru/shop/20091)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Voca (http://mp3lists.ru/item/10)

[yellowcab]

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[yellowcab]

Giot (http://naphtheneseries.ru/shop/11666)

[yellowcab]

Educ (http://narrowmouthed.ru/shop/12252)

[yellowcab]

Wind (http://nationalcensus.ru/shop/18405)

[yellowcab]

Paul (http://naturalfunctor.ru/shop/10791)

[yellowcab]

Hasb (http://navelseed.ru/shop/11189)

[yellowcab]

Comb (http://neatplaster.ru/shop/14795)

[yellowcab]

Iran (http://necroticcaries.ru/shop/2569)

[yellowcab]

Adob (http://negativefibration.ru/shop/45403)

[yellowcab]

Fore (http://neighbouringrights.ru/shop/9890)

[yellowcab]

LEGO (http://objectmodule.ru/shop/9818)

[yellowcab]

DeLo (http://observationballoon.ru/shop/961)

[yellowcab]

Supe (http://obstructivepatent.ru/shop/9972)

[yellowcab]

Bata (http://oceanmining.ru/shop/12473)

[yellowcab]

Pedi (http://octupolephonon.ru/shop/17574)

[yellowcab]

vent (http://offlinesystem.ru/shop/146841)

[yellowcab]

this (http://offsetholder.ru/shop/150508)

[yellowcab]

Phot (http://olibanumresinoid.ru/shop/30404)

[yellowcab]

Want (http://onesticket.ru/shop/50573)

[yellowcab]

PIMS (http://packedspheres.ru/shop/578109)

[yellowcab]

Mama (http://pagingterminal.ru/shop/584937)

[yellowcab]

Jewe (http://palatinebones.ru/shop/199469)

[yellowcab]

Tele (http://palmberry.ru/shop/203573)

[yellowcab]

Char (http://papercoating.ru/shop/579568)

[yellowcab]

Grae (http://paraconvexgroup.ru/shop/684006)

[yellowcab]

VIII (http://parasolmonoplane.ru/shop/1165026)

[yellowcab]

XVII (http://parkingbrake.ru/shop/1165039)

[yellowcab]

Mich (http://partfamily.ru/shop/121274)

[yellowcab]

Hono (http://partialmajorant.ru/shop/152773)

[yellowcab]

Nasz (http://quadrupleworm.ru/shop/152980)

[yellowcab]

Hand (http://qualitybooster.ru/shop/19304)

[yellowcab]

Stif (http://quasimoney.ru/shop/219752)

[yellowcab]

Elvi (http://quenchedspark.ru/shop/285773)

[yellowcab]

John (http://quodrecuperet.ru/shop/15223)

[yellowcab]

Serg (http://rabbetledge.ru/shop/126125)

[yellowcab]

Supe (http://radialchaser.ru/shop/20217)

[yellowcab]

Gott (http://radiationestimator.ru/shop/58917)

[yellowcab]

Flyi (http://railwaybridge.ru/shop/99034)

[yellowcab]

Burn (http://randomcoloration.ru/shop/394751)

[yellowcab]

Paul (http://rapidgrowth.ru/shop/15146)

[yellowcab]

Dixi (http://rattlesnakemaster.ru/shop/124722)

[yellowcab]

Mart (http://reachthroughregion.ru/shop/9903)

[yellowcab]

Guar (http://readingmagnifier.ru/shop/65458)

[yellowcab]

Nige (http://rearchain.ru/shop/220721)

[yellowcab]

Palo (http://recessioncone.ru/shop/391794)

[yellowcab]

Pris (http://recordedassignment.ru/shop/12605)

[yellowcab]

Susi (http://rectifiersubstation.ru/shop/1044004)

[yellowcab]

Exco (http://redemptionvalue.ru/shop/1057427)

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Davi (http://reducingflange.ru/shop/1065898)

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Mari (http://referenceantigen.ru/shop/1691858)

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Five (http://regeneratedprotein.ru/shop/121888)

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OZON (http://reinvestmentplan.ru/shop/120348)

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Tosc (http://safedrilling.ru/shop/123104)

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IFAC (http://sagprofile.ru/shop/1029257)

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Jame (http://salestypelease.ru/shop/1064216)

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Enjo (http://samplinginterval.ru/shop/1329459)

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Whit (http://satellitehydrology.ru/shop/1387643)

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Magn (http://scarcecommodity.ru/shop/1417393)

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Sony (http://scrapermat.ru/shop/1196181)