teaching survival

wareagle69 · 08-23-2007, 12:33 AM

i am currently looking at purchasing 100 acres of remote property, i have been approached by someone to teach primitive skills/survival basics where iwould have acess to 1000 acres in les strouds hometown of huntsville about 2hrs from my current, so thats why i'm looking for suitable up here. i have searched for course outlines, not much out there, i don't want to teach the same way i was taught(rangers) might scare them off, there is so much info to convey in a short amount of time,trying to prioritze would be the issue.
so i am looking for suggestions from you guys(no it's not for u tube or the telly) just to many ppl are approaching me to learn what i know which to me is just scratching the surface but i do have my training and lot's of feild experience plus a 3 month solo jaunt in the mts of arizona. so give me some suggestions please.

FVR · 08-23-2007, 01:15 AM

My wife told me I should do this about 8 years ago. My main concern was insurance.

If I was to do it, it would be in a small team, maybe three persons max. Def. need good health record, no high blood press. students, able to walk 3 or 4 miles as a jaunt.

Def. need a physch clearance.

Hmmmmm..................

Sarge47 · 08-23-2007, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by wareagle69

i am currently looking at purchasing 100 acres of remote property, i have been approached by someone to teach primitive skills/survival basics where iwould have acess to 1000 acres in les strouds hometown of huntsville about 2hrs from my current, so thats why i'm looking for suitable up here. i have searched for course outlines, not much out there, i don't want to teach the same way i was taught(rangers) might scare them off, there is so much info to convey in a short amount of time,trying to prioritze would be the issue.
so i am looking for suggestions from you guys(no it's not for u tube or the telly) just to many ppl are approaching me to learn what i know which to me is just scratching the surface but i do have my training and lot's of feild experience plus a 3 month solo jaunt in the mts of arizona. so give me some suggestions please.

I was gonna make a joke about having a class on how to teach Moose to snore but figured that would not be good 'cause you were being serious...wait a minute, I just did it! Anyway, while I haven't any good info to give you I can't tell how excited I am for you...Now that's a dream worth following Brother Wolf!

DEET · 08-23-2007, 06:18 AM

I too am an instructor so let me give you a little bit of what I learned the hard way.

1. People bore easily and once they are bored they don't retain anything. Make jokes and tell stories. Get the class involved in the lesson.

2. Start with the most important subjects first. You will need class instruction before ever even thinking of going into the feild with your students.

3. The first thing out of your mouth should be tell them who you are and what training and experience you have. They need to know right away that they are dealing with a seasoned professional so they feel confident that what the are about to hear is no BS.

4. Don't be too hard core, remember these people you are teaching know nothing or very little about survival, that is why they are paying you to teach them.

5. Have fun. If you aren't enjoying yourself than your students definitely won't. I have found that people respond to emotions alot more often than I thought when I started this.

Good luck and hope you are very successful, right now I'm only doing classroom instruction I hope to one day have my own swath of land to really give some advanced courses on.

FVR · 08-23-2007, 09:34 PM

Will you be handing out an egg and a match?

DEET · 08-30-2007, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FVR

Will you be handing out an egg and a match?

BWAHAHAHA!!! Hey what happened to that guy? He never gave us any proof this place existed.

ATough · 08-30-2007, 03:09 PM

Wow, good luck wareagle69, I hope everything goes perfectly for you.

Sarge47 · 08-30-2007, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DEET

BWAHAHAHA!!! Hey what happened to that guy? He never gave us any proof this place existed.

I heard he decided instead to join TBWN, at least they'd let him carry a knife!

ATough · 08-30-2007, 05:25 PM

Tbwn??????

Sarge47 · 08-30-2007, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by survivorman.

Tbwn??????

I forgot, you weren't here when The Bare Wilderness Team showed up. Their web-site is www.barewilderness.com. They're two guys who plan on going into the wilds of Northern Canada in Winter for a month with just the clothes on their backs and their knives. No food, no water, nothing else. Just about everyone here thought they were acting foolish and told them so. "TBWN" stands for "The Bare Wilderness Numptys."

trax · 08-30-2007, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sarge47

I heard he decided instead to join TBWN, at least they'd let him carry a knife!

they'll probably just take away his egg

Sarge47 · 08-30-2007, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trax

they'll probably just take away his egg

Uh-uh, the match has to go too! And if he wants a cup of milk, good luck!

Fog_Harbor · 08-30-2007, 09:45 PM

I too am an instructor (not survival), and all the above are true. My two cents are these:

People generally have short attention spans, so entertain while you teach.

People generally only remember three main points from a training session, so stick to three, and then practice those three.

If you don't have an answer to a question, just say so, and find out the answer later.

Respect your students.

ATough · 08-30-2007, 11:23 PM

sorry I missed that.

survivalhike · 09-04-2007, 11:41 PM

As someone interested in attending a similar school or class, I think that you need to seperate people based on experience and teach different topics to different people. I already have gone through about 7 books and a thousand articles on the internet about survival, and therefore would require a different curriculum than someone who has never read anything. Not saying that reading is as good as doing but I think you get my point. You could have beginner, moderate, and advanced classes that are tailored to each groups particular needs. That way you can sell the second trip while on the first one, and the third while on the second. If each trip builds on the last one then people will be entertained the entire time and they will want to come back to learn more next time. There is an adventurer inside of everyone, you just have to pry it out. Good luck sir!

the edge · 09-27-2007, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by FVR

My wife told me I should do this about 8 years ago. My main concern was insurance.

If I was to do it, it would be in a small team, maybe three persons max. Def. need good health record, no high blood press. students, able to walk 3 or 4 miles as a jaunt.

Def. need a physch clearance.

Hmmmmm..................

agreed there.

08-23-2007, 12:33 AM	#1
wareagle69 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: northern ontario Posts: 3,951	teaching survival i am currently looking at purchasing 100 acres of remote property, i have been approached by someone to teach primitive skills/survival basics where iwould have acess to 1000 acres in les strouds hometown of huntsville about 2hrs from my current, so thats why i'm looking for suitable up here. i have searched for course outlines, not much out there, i don't want to teach the same way i was taught(rangers) might scare them off, there is so much info to convey in a short amount of time,trying to prioritze would be the issue. so i am looking for suggestions from you guys(no it's not for u tube or the telly) just to many ppl are approaching me to learn what i know which to me is just scratching the surface but i do have my training and lot's of feild experience plus a 3 month solo jaunt in the mts of arizona. so give me some suggestions please.

08-23-2007, 01:15 AM	#2
FVR Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: North Georgia Mountains Posts: 2,087 Blog Entries: 10	My wife told me I should do this about 8 years ago. My main concern was insurance. If I was to do it, it would be in a small team, maybe three persons max. Def. need good health record, no high blood press. students, able to walk 3 or 4 miles as a jaunt. Def. need a physch clearance. Hmmmmm.................. __________________ Can't cheat the mountain, pilgrim. Mountain got it....

08-23-2007, 06:18 AM	#4
DEET Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 61	Hey here's something I can really help you with I too am an instructor so let me give you a little bit of what I learned the hard way. 1. People bore easily and once they are bored they don't retain anything. Make jokes and tell stories. Get the class involved in the lesson. 2. Start with the most important subjects first. You will need class instruction before ever even thinking of going into the feild with your students. 3. The first thing out of your mouth should be tell them who you are and what training and experience you have. They need to know right away that they are dealing with a seasoned professional so they feel confident that what the are about to hear is no BS. 4. Don't be too hard core, remember these people you are teaching know nothing or very little about survival, that is why they are paying you to teach them. 5. Have fun. If you aren't enjoying yourself than your students definitely won't. I have found that people respond to emotions alot more often than I thought when I started this. Good luck and hope you are very successful, right now I'm only doing classroom instruction I hope to one day have my own swath of land to really give some advanced courses on.

08-23-2007, 09:34 PM	#5
FVR Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: North Georgia Mountains Posts: 2,087 Blog Entries: 10	Will you be handing out an egg and a match? __________________ Can't cheat the mountain, pilgrim. Mountain got it....

08-30-2007, 03:09 PM	#7
ATough Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 203 Blog Entries: 1	Wow, good luck wareagle69, I hope everything goes perfectly for you. __________________ Jesus is my king.

08-30-2007, 05:25 PM	#9
ATough Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 203 Blog Entries: 1	Tbwn?????? __________________ Jesus is my king.

08-30-2007, 09:45 PM	#13
Fog_Harbor Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: San Francisco, CA (Or San Freak-Skid Row, if you prefer) Posts: 226	I too am an instructor (not survival), and all the above are true. My two cents are these: People generally have short attention spans, so entertain while you teach. People generally only remember three main points from a training session, so stick to three, and then practice those three. If you don't have an answer to a question, just say so, and find out the answer later. Respect your students. __________________ Let freedom ring Let the white dove sing Let the whole world know that today is the day of reckoning Let the weak be strong Let the right be wrong Roll the stone away It's Independence Day -Martina McBride Last edited by Fog_Harbor; 08-31-2007 at 02:39 AM.

08-30-2007, 11:23 PM	#14
ATough Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 203 Blog Entries: 1	sorry I missed that. __________________ Jesus is my king.

09-04-2007, 11:41 PM	#15
survivalhike Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Gilbert Arizona Posts: 132	As someone interested in attending a similar school or class, I think that you need to seperate people based on experience and teach different topics to different people. I already have gone through about 7 books and a thousand articles on the internet about survival, and therefore would require a different curriculum than someone who has never read anything. Not saying that reading is as good as doing but I think you get my point. You could have beginner, moderate, and advanced classes that are tailored to each groups particular needs. That way you can sell the second trip while on the first one, and the third while on the second. If each trip builds on the last one then people will be entertained the entire time and they will want to come back to learn more next time. There is an adventurer inside of everyone, you just have to pry it out. Good luck sir!