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    Default Is anyone getting a bit nervous yet?

    Just wondering if any of you are seeing the latest headlines and getting fidgety yet? We are a little, we just sold our homestead and are in the process of getting married and moving up to Alaska. Nothing like $4.00+ diesel and food rationing in parts to make things interesting!
    I just feel a bit exposed out on the road in our travel trailer right now, felt like I could vent to you folks about it. We're in a RV park in northern Colorado at the moment.
    I keep checking the area and watching where the deer and pronghorn are everyday as we sit and wait for the property sale to go through. Just in case I need to go and pet me one!
    I think I'll renew my fishing license and take a whack at some of these rainbows to sooth the soul and stock the fridge.
    We do live in interesting times!

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    Nervous? No. Doing things to prepare? You bet.
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    Nope. We saw the same thing in the 1970s. Recession followed by stagflation. Double digit inflation (we aren't there yet), double digit unemployment (we aren't there yet), an oil embargo, high food prices, a ramping down of the Viet Nam war and a Middle Eastern war. In all, there have been 22 (I'm including the current economic downturn) recessions since 1900. According to the National Bureau of Economic Research, here are the dates and durations:

    Date....................................Duration In Months
    Sept. 1902-Aug. 1904......................23
    May 1907-June 1908........................13
    Jan. 1910-Jan. 1912.........................24
    Jan. 1913-Dec. 1914........................23
    Aug. 1918-March 1919.......................7
    Jan. 1920-July 1921.........................18
    May 1923-July 1924.........................14
    Oct. 1926-Nov. 1927........................13
    Aug. 1929-March 1933......................43
    May 1937-June 1938.........................13
    Feb. 1945-Oct. 1945..........................8
    Nov. 1948-Oct. 1949........................11
    July 1953-May 1954..........................10
    Aug. 1957-April 1958..........................8
    April 1960-Feb. 1961.........................10
    Dec. 1969-Nov. 1970.........................11
    Nov. 1973-March 1975.......................16
    Jan. 1980-July 1980............................6
    July 1981-Nov. 1982..........................16
    July 1990-March 1991..........................8
    March 2001-Nov. 2001.........................8

    Can you say Economic Cycle?

    Some may not agree with this but we did survive each and every one of the previous recessions and we'll survive this one too.
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    Golly Rick - looks like I've lived through more bad times than I realized. Must be my cheery disposition.
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    We do tend to forget the past don't we? I guess we'll always be doomed to relive it.

    For those that are interested, you can read through this short lesson on recessions and economics. What you'll find is just how cyclical recessions are. One good piece of news, echoed in this report, is that recessions are getting shorter and periods of sustained growth are getting longer.

    http://www.econlib.org/LIBRARY/Enc/Recessions.html
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    One thing I won't forget about the 70's is waiting a long time in line every other day to buy 8 gallons of gas. I also remember getting turned down for a 19% mortgage. Ahhh - the good old days.
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    Oh, you bet. Here's one for the younger viewers. I sure do remember this and I remember buying gas by the half gallon, too!

    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...icial%26sa%3DN
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    I'm not nervous. (ask anyone here)

    Scared? Absolutely, for those who think they have prepared for a global economic collapse

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    Mountaintrekker, What part of that skanky old god'forsaken state of Alaska are you headed for. And why would you go there?????

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    Hopeak.......sounds like you're just trying to limit the number of neighbors.
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    No, The neighbors here'abouts are limited by the National Forest Service owning everything.

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    hopeak,
    We are setting our sights on the Western Kenai. We figured we could stay down here in the Godforsaken land of outdoing your neighbor and save, or we could up and sell everything and fly by the seat of our pants! I guess we like option "B".
    We decided to make the move as "no offense to those on this board" most people in the lesser 48 have no clue and there are just too many of them! We live our lifestyle, we don't do the weekend thing or go on vacation for 2 weeks a year. This is it, living life, not working for anyone but yourself etc. So, I took a trip up for a month a couple of years ago and decided it was darn near paradise (mosquitos and all). And now here we are, simplifying yet again and loving it.
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    Well, wave when you go through the Turnagain Pass and past the HOPE cutoff. As Robert Service said, "It is a cussed land, But I swear it's got plum hold of me clean down to my soul".......

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    Hope? HA! I was up there staying with the guys from Angle 45 adventures. Do you know them? I destroyed my rental car (mostly on purpose) going up Palmer Creek Rd. to the mine. I told them I wanted a 4X4 but they gave me a Hundai! So I got the full insurance and off I went for some 4X4 fun in my Hundai! Crossed some water if I remember correctly. What kind of rental agency rents a Hundai in Alaska... honestly?
    Do you know the Kasilof area at all? I'm trying to get a feel and see if it's even worth checking out. Any ideas? I promise we will be good neighbors (75 miles or so). Sorry to barrage you on this, just excited about coming up.
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    Yes, Angle 45* I know them well, Good people. Palmer Creek is just over the hill (4,400' up) in my back yard. I was watching a Bear up there this morning. 35 years ago I owned the property that is now Angle 45*, and I built that small cabin up in back in about 1974.

    Land is cheap in Kasilof, Ak. but not much work. Most people have to live where they can work. Land is always cheap where there is not much work.

    Palmer Creek Is some of the finest hiking country in Alaska. Mt. Goats, Caribou, Moose, Dall Sheep, Black and Brown Bears, Wolves. It is 61* above just now and too sunny, to work. What Bush Pilots call: CAVU (Clear Air Visibility unlimited).......

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    hopeak and Mountaintrekker, I live in Peters Creek about 25 miles north of Skanchorage. I would move down Kasilof way in a minute if my wife would let me. I wonder if she would notice if I moved down there anyway.....hmmmm, oh well... I hope you have a safe trip up here Mountaintrekker.
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    I've shot some mighty nice Dall Sheep back at the head of Peters Creek, up Ram Bowl, and some on Billacouse Mountain. In the old days you could shoot two sheep and two moose. That was befor the days of the lottery drawing to hunt that valley. We even wacked a nice moose back at the very back of Peters Creek. I used to keep my Stupid Cub (Piper PA-18-150) on Fire Lake there in Buzzard Gulch (Eagle River)........
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    I ain't been nervous since I got a letter that said "Greetings from the President", I thought I was special with the president writing me and all until I finished reading it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ole WV Coot View Post
    I ain't been nervous since I got a letter that said "Greetings from the President", I thought I was special with the president writing me and all until I finished reading it.
    I didn't get one, must of dropped me from his mailing list.

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    Hye Mountaintrekker, there are alot of mushers that live in the area your headin.
    I'd check http://www.sleddogcentral.com/classi...s_sale.htm#top
    and cruise the classifieds for places to work and live- there are quite a few big kennels in that vicinity that will offer free room and board in exchange for kennel chores. Not a bad option until you land on your feet. just a tip...do with it what you like
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