I need a SURVIVAL EXPERT

[chicojack]

I am a California criminal defense attorney who represents a defendant in a high profile case. I need the name(s) of a survival epxert who can help me on my client's case. Issue is whether a person lost in the forest should be able to light a signal fire to be rescued.

[WildGoth]

well he should because i mean it is a sutioution of life or death so laws should not appile to the case i mean it is logic to try and do anything in a survaial sitution

[natureboi69]

yer thats very true if someone is in a life or death situation a fire is a must, not only to be a source of heat but also as a rescue situation

[Tony uk]

The laws only apply if the person is in to danger but they do not apply in a survival situation

[wareagle69]

Originally Posted by chicojack

I am a California criminal defense attorney who represents a defendant in a high profile case. I need the name(s) of a survival epxert who can help me on my client's case. Issue is whether a person lost in the forest should be able to light a signal fire to be rescued.

go to hoods woods he is close to california, or cody lundin out of presscot arizona

[wareagle69]

www.hoods woods.com or google cody lundin

[Sarge47]

Originally Posted by wareagle69

www.hoods woods.com or google cody lundin

Hood's Woods can be reached at www.survival.com and
Cody Lundin can be reached at his Aboriginal Living Skills School at www.alssadventures.com.

[donny h]

Originally Posted by chicojack

Issue is whether a person lost in the forest should be able to light a signal fire to be rescued.

Of course they should, but that's not what your 'high profile' case is really about, is it? There is no such thing as 'high profile' over a signal fire, an illegal campfire is not that serious of a charge, unless the person who lit the fire let it get out of control and torched a vast swath of land, which I suspect is what happened.

If it was a simple signal fire there would be no need to surf the net looking for paid professional 'experts'.

[trax]

What donny said, a signal fire doesn't lead to any kind of charges unless the signal happens to be an entire forest going up in flames. think your client needed a survival expert before he left home, our basic scout training maybe.

[rusty_oxydado]

Your client has entered the grey area of the letter of the law -vs- the the intent of the law.
A person lost, or in need of emediate rescue can build a signal fire to bring attention to him/her.
California, summer time, open fire?
This really bends the light in the case just a little harshly!
I am guessing what the outcome was.
You may need show proof your client tried to do all he could to minimise all accidental damage or injury before lighting his fire.
Other than this your client needs prove the incident was a life and death attempt to be rescued.
I am Army trained for jungle, mountain, desert, and artic training. After the military I lived in the mountains as a woods tramp.
I wish you the best in trying your case.

Rusty Oxydado.

[Beowulf65]

Naw dude, your clients going to jail if he started the Cal. fires that did all that damage. He can light the signal fire for help, but he has to maintain control over the fire, a raging inferno is not a signal fire for help. But if he started those or any other fires that set large amounts of forest on fire then he should own up to the crime or accident, it's called being responsible and taking your lumps for your mistakes. Or he may be a big headed doof that likes to set things on fire.
I hate this topic as it bothers me when some fancy pants lawyer wants to use us to get his arsonist scumbag client off as having been in trouble in the wilderness, they never care about us so called "tree huggers or nature lovers" until they need us. Take your blood money elsewhere!
By the way how much you paying? jk.

[wareagle69]

look at the date of the first post newbie..

[HOP]

The client could have been a habitual phyro.

[Beowulf65]

I know the date, don't care, just jibbering off

[dilligaf2u2]

I would need to know more about the case before I passed judgment. This case could have nothing to do with burning down a forest.

With the no tolerance laws that have passed recently and the removal of common sense in making decisions. This could be a case of the law placing someone in danger by stating intent over common sense.

Don

[Ken]

Wow. A criminal defense attorney who only posted once. (First post above.) Who'd a thunk it was possible..........

[SARKY]

Without knowing exactly what the charges are and what he did, I really can't answer the question. Too many variables. Was he in a life threatening situation? How long had he been lost in the woods, With or without supplies (food, water and shelter)? Was exposure a factor? Any or all of these can cause a person to not think very clearly and thus make a wrong decision as to a course of action.

[last one standing]

KEEP YOUR FIRE UNDER CONTROL I want places to hunt and take the kid that don't look like bomb went off

[crashdive123]

Looking at the date of the original post.....I think the trial is over. I for one would not want a criminal defense attorney that is trying to save my bacon for burning down thousands of acres of California to find an expert by annoymously posting to an internet forum. What's next - Secret Decoder Ring?

[Ken]

Originally Posted by crashdive123

Looking at the date of the original post.....I think the trial is over. I for one would not want a criminal defense attorney that is trying to save my bacon for burning down thousands of acres of California to find an expert by annoymously posting to an internet forum. What's next - Secret Decoder Ring?

I started to do a search to try to find the outcome of that "high profile" case last night. The need for sleep overcame my need to know.

Sometimes lawyers are forced to employ novel defenses which, in some cases, are actualy valid defenses. If the facts are on your side, argue the facts. If the law is on your side, argue the law. If you have nothing going for you, employ a unique defense or, as a last resort, settle (civil) or plea bargain (criminal).

There are a few great services out there that hook us up with outstanding expert witnesses. I've used such services to make contact with physicians, DNA experts, ballisticians, metallurgists, and economists, to name a few. Just the service alone is pricey, but you get what you pay for.