Winter Car survival ??

Smok · 01-04-2008, 08:45 AM

Your in your car stuck on the side of road and the snow is getting deep so deep your car is berried could be days , it has happened , but your good . You have your Kit . Whats in it and how do you use it ? .... This can save lives

Heat ? CO2 ?

Smok · 01-04-2008, 08:54 AM

Sorry if I am repeating an old post but it is winter and we do need to repeat things from time to time as we do have new people here with new ideas

mitch.chesney · 01-04-2008, 09:13 AM

I have a paper bag in the back of my jeep containing:

a quilt, stainless cooking pot (I think about 1.5L) and lid, toilet paper, Hothands-2 (4 packs, each lasts 10 hours), a dozen or so instant soup mixes (Bear Creek kind, from walmart, mmmmm tasty), choppers (leather mittens with wool mitten inserts), wool hat, and a couple matchbooks.

Then I have a steel rectangular dirt shovel, hatchet, a 5gallon water container, a spare quart of engine oil, a small box of sticks and medium tinder, and sometimes I carry a 5gallon container of petrol if I'm not driving around town.

Rick · 01-04-2008, 11:03 AM

Okay, my ignorance is going to show here. Don't you have a problem with the water freezing in winter? Don't you take the chance of the container popping from the ice then having a vehicle full of water once the old heater warms it up?

Sourdough · 01-04-2008, 12:22 PM

O' right, yes I do have some space in my "carbine" stock for survival stuff. I guess you could look at the buttstock as the "trunk", yea that works good, snickers bars, firestuff, swiss army escape and evassion knife, space blanket, (the little one, the one that does not work). Just kidding, well kind'a. I have two 3-ton come-a-longs, and deadmen (not what you think). 3 lengths of 20' chain (60' total) 3/8's link. One Hi-Lift (handyman) jack. 3- 60 pound bags of sand, the "OME" truck jack, two set's of V-Bar tire chains. And one Skidoo 550 Super wide track snowmachine. One old sleeping bag, Bunny boots, etc., O' Yes and my "CARBINE".

Gray Wolf · 01-04-2008, 01:26 PM

#1Kit (Always in my Van)
My EDC knife - Kershaw Junk Yard Dog 2 (3.75" blade) Folder
Hunting knife - Hibben 5" w/Guthook & Horizontal carry Sheath
Leatherman Wave Multi-tool
Sharpener
Gerber NATO Tri-Folding Spade w/Sheath
Howler pea-less Whistle
Signal mirror
Compass and Topographical Map of area
Light My Fire Army Fire Steel Version
NATO 25 Wind/Waterproof Matches in Waterproof case
Mini Bic Lighter
Tinder Quick Fire Tabs
Wet Fire Tinder Cubes Burns @ 1300 degrees
Film container of Char Cloth
US Mil Spec 550 Parachute Cord - 100'
1 Nuwick 120 Hour Candle - For light or cooking
Ritter Photon Micro Light - 5mm LED with SOS Mode and cap clip
1 AMK Emergency Heatsheet-Survival Blanket - 1 person
1 AMK Emergency Heatsheet Survival Blanket - 2 Person
1AMK Heatsheet - Bivy
1 Nalgene Lexan W/M Bottle (Qt) of water
1 Olicamp SS Cup w/folding handles (pt) - fits on bottom of Nalgene Bottle
1 Olicamp Stainless Steel Plate 7 3/8"
30' snare wire
Tiny Fishing kit
3 Black Trash bags
Small pack of locking ties
Esbit Pocket Stove (4"x3"x3/4")
Esbit Solid Fuel Tablets
1 - 15 gr. CELOX Hemostatic Agent (2 more packs in glove box)
1 Emergency Bandage - Military 6" Version (can be used 1 handed)
Snake Bite Kit
Tube of Antibiotic
Pack of Benedril
pack of 2 Aspirins
4 - 4"x4" packs of gauze pads
1" Med tape roll
Small roll of Gorilla tape
Mainstay 3600 Ration Bars (9 for 3 days) 5 yr shelf life, (when I can't catch anything substantial)
Waterproof Pancho
and a few extra clothes
Waterproof Emergency Back/Shoulder Pack Fits all above .

Gray Wolf · 01-04-2008, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smok

Sorry if I am repeating an old post but it is winter and we do need to repeat things from time to time as we do have new people here with new ideas

I think your absolutely right, this needs to be repeated!

The past couple of years I've been making up these types of packs for OTR truckers (by word of mouth). Last year I showed a trucker in Colorado Springs, how to use the 2 person Heatsheat and the Gorilla tape to seal off the front of the cab, and be able to use the back sleeping area with only 1 small window to live, and use the Ritter Photon Micro Light - 5mm LED in the SOS Mode put it in the cap clip (which has 3 magnets, with a 1 mile visibility) on the top of the cab, for getting help. People die out in their vehicles, in the cold, for no other reason than not having the knowledge or know how to be prepared. Or even worse, the "it's not going to happen to me".......

mitch.chesney · 01-04-2008, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

Okay, my ignorance is going to show here. Don't you have a problem with the water freezing in winter? Don't you take the chance of the container popping from the ice then having a vehicle full of water once the old heater warms it up?

Water freezes, yes, but so long as the container is not closed it won't blow. Then I just put it next to the exhaust or the fire and it warms.

Airplane Guy · 01-04-2008, 07:35 PM

The LAND/Shark survival shelter is a great item to have in your car (passenger compartment, not trunk), along with a strobe or flashlight like the eTernalight.

Sarge47 · 01-04-2008, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airplane Guy

The LAND/Shark survival shelter is a great item to have in your car (passenger compartment, not trunk), along with a strobe or flashlight like the eTernalight.

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RobertRogers · 01-05-2008, 12:47 AM

That is a good list...a shovel too

DEET · 01-05-2008, 12:50 AM

OK first off it's gonna take a heck of alot of bad stuff to get the jeep stuck ( I'm an avid off-roader and the warranty is really really voided

) I have a wool blanket rolled up and in a stuff bag. 2 liters of water, 10 energy bars, a small bottle of purifier tablets, swiss army knife (the big ugly one that's almost a cube

) some cordage, change of clothes (evrything down to the undies, all of my vehicle recovery equipment, tools, and my magnesium fire starter. Also there is a jerry can beside the rear tire. Keep in mind it sounds like alot but it all fits behind the rear seat (except the jerry can) and if you own a wrangler you know how small a space that is.

Smok · 01-05-2008, 02:30 AM

Alone with water candles , MREs , sleep bag , winter gear I have added a caron monoxide Detector heres a good link www.bestglide.com/Co_Detector_Info.html

Elkchsr · 01-05-2008, 05:33 AM

I'll be teaching a class in the near future on this very subject

One of the items I find as a number one is knowledge of where you are going, knowledge on winter survival (vehicles when not running become colder than the temp outside), and knowledge of some of the nearest places to get help (one could walk miles more than necessary for help)

The second item is those little oxygen operated chemical heater pads (I prefer the second size up from the smallest)

These babies will stay warm for 12 hours or so and a number of them in your pockets will keep you from freezing to death in some of the most extreme temps

I like to keep a whole box in the truck, even if I don't have any thing else to help

A box bought when the temps warm up can be purchased for half off some times and isn't that expensive, plus they will keep for absolutely years before used with no loss of energy

Smok · 01-05-2008, 05:42 AM

Elkchsr where do you get the oxygen operated chemical hearter pads ,there like hand wormers ?

Elkchsr · 01-05-2008, 06:44 AM

Yep

Wal-Mart, sporting goods stores

HotHands is one brand

I always have them at the bottom of my pack, or in one of the pockets, they don't take up much room, are light weight and activate fairly quickly

Rick · 01-05-2008, 05:32 PM

For those wanting to store some water in your vehicle, here is a link of a container. I think I'm going to get a couple. I've always been shy about carrying water even though I know how important it is. I just never wanted to have the container burst from freezing and wind up with water in the vehicle. Ya'll have convinced me:

http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/ta...Fresults%2Etam

granite · 01-05-2008, 11:03 PM

I lived in my car most of last winter. My supply list would overload this server. I can't remember ever running out of anything.

granite · 01-05-2008, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elkchsr

Yep

Wal-Mart, sporting goods stores

HotHands is one brand

I always have them at the bottom of my pack, or in one of the pockets, they don't take up much room, are light weight and activate fairly quickly

You can buy hothands by the case at Sams Club.

Rick · 01-05-2008, 11:20 PM

Good call. You can get them at Costco, too:

http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...ang=en-US&Sp=C

or directly from their site:

http://stn3.headgap.com/hothands/FMP...gory=hot&-find

01-04-2008, 08:54 AM	#2
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01-04-2008, 09:13 AM	#3
mitch.chesney Bush Master Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 762 Blog Entries: 1	I have a paper bag in the back of my jeep containing: a quilt, stainless cooking pot (I think about 1.5L) and lid, toilet paper, Hothands-2 (4 packs, each lasts 10 hours), a dozen or so instant soup mixes (Bear Creek kind, from walmart, mmmmm tasty), choppers (leather mittens with wool mitten inserts), wool hat, and a couple matchbooks. Then I have a steel rectangular dirt shovel, hatchet, a 5gallon water container, a spare quart of engine oil, a small box of sticks and medium tinder, and sometimes I carry a 5gallon container of petrol if I'm not driving around town. __________________ WARNING: This post may contain abusive language, textual violence, & a tendency to walk the line. This information is confidential and intended for the recipient exclusively. If you are not the recipient please notify the poster immediately and destroy the received post. Any non-member viewer of the private information contained within this post will incur a fee of no more than $25 plus legal costs. By reading this you acknowledge the above and consent to me hunting on your property.

01-04-2008, 11:03 AM	#4
Rick Administrator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 28,000 Blog Entries: 2	Okay, my ignorance is going to show here. Don't you have a problem with the water freezing in winter? Don't you take the chance of the container popping from the ice then having a vehicle full of water once the old heater warms it up? __________________ Safe Zone LLC "The Most Trusted Name in Outdoor Gear". Check out our free Family Disaster Plan The Mora Bushcraft Series is now available! Knot Making and Wild Edible Plants cards are in!

01-04-2008, 12:22 PM	#5
Sourdough Boots in'the Field Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Kenai Peninsula, Alaska Posts: 6,310 Blog Entries: 1	CAR....??? What's a CAR...???? O' right, yes I do have some space in my "carbine" stock for survival stuff. I guess you could look at the buttstock as the "trunk", yea that works good, snickers bars, firestuff, swiss army escape and evassion knife, space blanket, (the little one, the one that does not work). Just kidding, well kind'a. I have two 3-ton come-a-longs, and deadmen (not what you think). 3 lengths of 20' chain (60' total) 3/8's link. One Hi-Lift (handyman) jack. 3- 60 pound bags of sand, the "OME" truck jack, two set's of V-Bar tire chains. And one Skidoo 550 Super wide track snowmachine. One old sleeping bag, Bunny boots, etc., O' Yes and my "CARBINE".

01-04-2008, 01:26 PM	#6
Gray Wolf Loner Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Within My Mind Posts: 1,999	#1Kit (Always in my Van) My EDC knife - Kershaw Junk Yard Dog 2 (3.75" blade) Folder Hunting knife - Hibben 5" w/Guthook & Horizontal carry Sheath Leatherman Wave Multi-tool Sharpener Gerber NATO Tri-Folding Spade w/Sheath Howler pea-less Whistle Signal mirror Compass and Topographical Map of area Light My Fire Army Fire Steel Version NATO 25 Wind/Waterproof Matches in Waterproof case Mini Bic Lighter Tinder Quick Fire Tabs Wet Fire Tinder Cubes Burns @ 1300 degrees Film container of Char Cloth US Mil Spec 550 Parachute Cord - 100' 1 Nuwick 120 Hour Candle - For light or cooking Ritter Photon Micro Light - 5mm LED with SOS Mode and cap clip 1 AMK Emergency Heatsheet-Survival Blanket - 1 person 1 AMK Emergency Heatsheet Survival Blanket - 2 Person 1AMK Heatsheet - Bivy 1 Nalgene Lexan W/M Bottle (Qt) of water 1 Olicamp SS Cup w/folding handles (pt) - fits on bottom of Nalgene Bottle 1 Olicamp Stainless Steel Plate 7 3/8" 30' snare wire Tiny Fishing kit 3 Black Trash bags Small pack of locking ties Esbit Pocket Stove (4"x3"x3/4") Esbit Solid Fuel Tablets 1 - 15 gr. CELOX Hemostatic Agent (2 more packs in glove box) 1 Emergency Bandage - Military 6" Version (can be used 1 handed) Snake Bite Kit Tube of Antibiotic Pack of Benedril pack of 2 Aspirins 4 - 4"x4" packs of gauze pads 1" Med tape roll Small roll of Gorilla tape Mainstay 3600 Ration Bars (9 for 3 days) 5 yr shelf life, (when I can't catch anything substantial) Waterproof Pancho and a few extra clothes Waterproof Emergency Back/Shoulder Pack Fits all above . __________________ "A person is not finished when they are defeated. A person is finished when they quit."

01-04-2008, 08:45 AM	#1
Smok Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northen Calif. Posts: 530	Winter Car survival ?? Your in your car stuck on the side of road and the snow is getting deep so deep your car is berried could be days , it has happened , but your good . You have your Kit . Whats in it and how do you use it ? .... This can save lives Heat ? CO2 ? __________________ Do it with what you got and you want need what you don't have Last edited by Smok; 01-04-2008 at 08:57 AM.

01-04-2008, 07:35 PM	#9
Airplane Guy Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 2	LAND/Shark The LAND/Shark survival shelter is a great item to have in your car (passenger compartment, not trunk), along with a strobe or flashlight like the eTernalight.

01-05-2008, 12:47 AM	#11
RobertRogers Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 608	That is a good list...a shovel too __________________ Earth - love it or leave it. FireSteel.com

01-05-2008, 12:50 AM	#12
DEET Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: West Virginia Posts: 61	In the jeep OK first off it's gonna take a heck of alot of bad stuff to get the jeep stuck ( I'm an avid off-roader and the warranty is really really voided ) I have a wool blanket rolled up and in a stuff bag. 2 liters of water, 10 energy bars, a small bottle of purifier tablets, swiss army knife (the big ugly one that's almost a cube ) some cordage, change of clothes (evrything down to the undies, all of my vehicle recovery equipment, tools, and my magnesium fire starter. Also there is a jerry can beside the rear tire. Keep in mind it sounds like alot but it all fits behind the rear seat (except the jerry can) and if you own a wrangler you know how small a space that is. __________________ The don't know is far deadlier than the unknown.

01-05-2008, 02:30 AM	#13
Smok Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northen Calif. Posts: 530	Alone with water candles , MREs , sleep bag , winter gear I have added a caron monoxide Detector heres a good link www.bestglide.com/Co_Detector_Info.html __________________ Do it with what you got and you want need what you don't have

01-05-2008, 05:33 AM	#14
Elkchsr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Anaconda Montana Posts: 155	I'll be teaching a class in the near future on this very subject One of the items I find as a number one is knowledge of where you are going, knowledge on winter survival (vehicles when not running become colder than the temp outside), and knowledge of some of the nearest places to get help (one could walk miles more than necessary for help) The second item is those little oxygen operated chemical heater pads (I prefer the second size up from the smallest) These babies will stay warm for 12 hours or so and a number of them in your pockets will keep you from freezing to death in some of the most extreme temps I like to keep a whole box in the truck, even if I don't have any thing else to help A box bought when the temps warm up can be purchased for half off some times and isn't that expensive, plus they will keep for absolutely years before used with no loss of energy

01-05-2008, 05:42 AM	#15
Smok Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Northen Calif. Posts: 530	Elkchsr where do you get the oxygen operated chemical hearter pads ,there like hand wormers ? __________________ Do it with what you got and you want need what you don't have

01-05-2008, 06:44 AM	#16
Elkchsr Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Anaconda Montana Posts: 155	Yep Wal-Mart, sporting goods stores HotHands is one brand I always have them at the bottom of my pack, or in one of the pockets, they don't take up much room, are light weight and activate fairly quickly __________________ A good soldier is a poor scout - Cheyenne The secret of the man who is universally interesting is that he is universally interested William Dean Howells Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover - Mark Twain

01-05-2008, 05:32 PM	#17
Rick Administrator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 28,000 Blog Entries: 2	For those wanting to store some water in your vehicle, here is a link of a container. I think I'm going to get a couple. I've always been shy about carrying water even though I know how important it is. I just never wanted to have the container burst from freezing and wind up with water in the vehicle. Ya'll have convinced me: http://www.actiongear.com/cgi-bin/ta...Fresults%2Etam __________________ Safe Zone LLC "The Most Trusted Name in Outdoor Gear". Check out our free Family Disaster Plan The Mora Bushcraft Series is now available! Knot Making and Wild Edible Plants cards are in!

01-05-2008, 11:03 PM	#18
granite Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Plymouth, Voyager Posts: 44	I lived in my car most of last winter. My supply list would overload this server. I can't remember ever running out of anything. __________________ trails are for sissies

01-05-2008, 11:20 PM	#20
Rick Administrator Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 28,000 Blog Entries: 2	Good call. You can get them at Costco, too: http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product...ang=en-US&Sp=C or directly from their site: http://stn3.headgap.com/hothands/FMP...gory=hot&-find __________________ Safe Zone LLC "The Most Trusted Name in Outdoor Gear". Check out our free Family Disaster Plan The Mora Bushcraft Series is now available! Knot Making and Wild Edible Plants cards are in! Last edited by Rick; 01-05-2008 at 11:23 PM.