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    Primitive is whatever I have on hand, because that is how people have always lived. If I have matches, fine. If I have a rifle, fine. If I have to make a bow and use a bow drill, fine. It's what you have on hand, which usually dwindles over time. That is why us humans invent things and make factories, so we don't run out.


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    It stops being primitive when it no longer connects you to the land and the wisdom of your ancestors. It stops being primitive when you depend on something out of a big box store more than the hours of dirt time in the outdoors engaging in meaningful hard work to achieve life giving skills. If you can shape it with your own hands, produce a result without spending a cent, work your edge, and a byproduct of the experience is that you know yourself and your landscape a little bit better, it's most likely rooted in primitive skills.

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    It stops being primitive when you can go to a store and buy things you need. When other people do something you need for you, and you exchange it for something you made.


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    Does room service messing up your order count as primitive?
    If you didn't bring jerky what did I just eat?

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    Maybe not, but having the whirlpool broke down does for sure......
    Or am I the only one that packs a swimming suit in the GrAB.
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    Oh, no. I've got my speedos packed too.

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    Oh, NO......NOT going there......
    TRHis is leading down THAT path.
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    Kyratshooter, my own personal opinion, if it's primitive enough for you, that's all that matters.

    I get both sides of the coin but it's really all relative. One could argue your flint wasn't foraged in the hills and the steel was forged in the 21st century. Doesn't matter to me, you're starting your fire like the old ones did so that's what matters. Now I'll be a hypocrit, it chaps my butt raw for any "primitive arms" season to allow scoped, synthetic stocked, primer fired, pellet powdered rifles to participate in the season but undeniably the basic operating principle remains the same. It's all relative.

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    Just saw this one -
    It stops being primitive when you can go to a store and buy things you need
    That one isn't bad.
    The pessimist complains about the wind;
    The optimist expects it to change;
    The realist adjusts the sails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    When do the skills and activities stop being "primitive"?
    When I can plug into Ethernet instead of having to crack somebody's WiFi password.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    When do the skills and activities stop being "primitive"?

    When metal enters the picture?

    When synthetic fabric shows up?

    When flint and steel replaces the fire bow?

    When a ferro rod replaces the F&S?

    When someone starts blowing up an airbed?

    Now remember, we all got to the camp ground or trail head riding in an automobile!
    When do the skills and activities of "what" stop being primitive?

    Outdoors activities? Bushcraft type things?

    Or your ride to the woods?

    What exactly are you asking about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightSG View Post
    When I can plug into Ethernet instead of having to crack somebody's WiFi password.
    Don't forget having to hear and wait for the dial up modem

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOSTBCWT View Post
    When do the skills and activities of "what" stop being primitive?

    Outdoors activities? Bushcraft type things?

    Or your ride to the woods?

    What exactly are you asking about?
    I am not asking about "exactly" anything, so do not overcomplicate your thought process.

    The question is to promote discussion and not to get anyone "straightened out" over a misconception or definition of "primitive".

    Sometime we talk about things here. We throw a question out with no expectation of a right or wrong answer simply because we wish to converse about our thoughts on the topic.

    If you have no thoughts on the topic do not converse, and if no one has a thought on the topic the thread will die naturally only to be revived by a newbie 6 years from now. Probably after my passing when my ashes have been scattered and I can not reply, which will probably also pi$$ them off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manwithnoname View Post
    Don't forget having to hear and wait for the dial up modem
    That's going a little too far. Next you'll have me lugging along the daylight tank so I can process film too.

    (Actually did that in NM once. Waited to get to the motel to drag out the film scanner, but the water at the campsite was exactly 68F, so I took advantage of it.)

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    Some anthropologist/psychologist might get a paper published about when people ask, " What's primitive", a lot of conversation goes to TP or the lack of. I've got some theories...

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    First I would like to say....was fun re-reading all the fantastic posts, as a blast from the past.......
    I have quoted a good friend that has passed........ to recall his humor and common sense.....
    Sarge, this is still funny ....I don't care who you are.....Bhohahahaha

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    Note to self: Do not allow WalkingTree to use the bathroom at my house...shower curtains look bad enough the way it is....
    So WT have you gotten past the "No TP pooping" phase?.......

    PS Nephews think I'm am primitive as I don't text.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    I am not asking about "exactly" anything, so do not overcomplicate your thought process.

    The question is to promote discussion and not to get anyone "straightened out" over a misconception or definition of "primitive".

    Sometime we talk about things here. We throw a question out with no expectation of a right or wrong answer simply because we wish to converse about our thoughts on the topic.

    If you have no thoughts on the topic do not converse, and if no one has a thought on the topic the thread will die naturally only to be revived by a newbie 6 years from now. Probably after my passing when my ashes have been scattered and I can not reply, which will probably also pi$$ them off.
    So basically you ask BS unclear questions to promote drama and debate and arguments. Gotcha!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MOSTBCWT View Post
    So basically you ask BS unclear questions to promote drama and debate and arguments. Gotcha!!
    If you want to put it that way then yes, we do.

    Apparently if makes people think, even if they don't want too, or are not use to it.

    Would you prefer "What's the best survival knife?"

    How about "the .22lr sucks!"

    We could do "Why would anyone buy a down sleeping bag in 2016?"

    Just a few days ago we did "The Blast Match sucks!", and some said it did and some said it did not!

    This place exists for discussion to take place, if that stops we will become a blog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MOSTBCWT View Post
    So basically you ask BS unclear questions to promote drama and debate and arguments. Gotcha!!

    Guess you missed the sarcasm.........
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    well, what primitive ai'nt is cellphones,4x4's,take out food anything bear grylls, ect...
    coyotes listen to them, like children of the night what music they make.

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