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    This weekend, and in a few weeks, I plan to take the boys scouts backpacking. This weekend is a 2 nighter/ 15 miler, and in July is a 5 nighter/ 30+ miler. I am actually getting a good sized troop (we might actually have 11 this weekend), so I have been thinking about beefing out my first aid kit a little better. Also, I have always considered my kit lacking something. And, I never liked the way I carried it before (just in a roll top bag). So, I went and bought a fancy Condor Rip Away pouch, and used my Flex Spending to fill it with high speed stuff. I put together a video showing what I put in the kit. A quick disclaimer first: This is the stuff I am trained to use. I thought about adding a few other things, but decided against because of lack of training in those things.



    For those who don't or can't watch youtube, I took a couple pictures.

    Here it is all laid out in the pouch. Everything is tucked away, nothing is loose.
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    Going from left to right, here is the left side:
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    From top left, there are two baggies with small gauze squares in sealed packages, along with a bit of paper towel folded up.
    EMT shears
    tweezers
    providone iodine solution for sterilizing water for irrigation
    a 30 ml irrigation syringe
    on the bottom left, steri strips for closing large cut
    2 epi pens ( I have a scout who is allergic to bees)

    Here is the middle section:
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    Starting at top left is the green horse wrap. It is a self adhering wrap that is cheaper and larger than what Walmart sells.
    Quick Clot
    two pairs of gloves
    middle left: blue cpr mask
    4 inch Israeli bandage
    bottom left: vacuum sealed compressed gauze
    athletic cloth tape
    triangular bandage

    Here is the right section, from in the zippered pocket:
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    Starting from top left: 1 suture kit ( I am not trained with this, I won't use it, only someone trained will, if available)
    a bunch of butterfly bandages
    triple antibiotic ointment packets
    hydrocortizone packets
    anti-diarrhea pills
    chap stick
    tylenol
    advil
    tape
    Middle left: normal bandages
    hydrocortizone pills
    tums
    heart burn- acid reflux OTC pills
    bottom left: smaller bandages
    iodine wipes
    unknown pills (why you label pills)
    skin super glue
    sewing needle in cardboard case
    sewing thread on bobbin
    gorilla tape wrapped around piece of plastic
    feminine hygiene product

    Here is the full kit laid out
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    It isn't as cool as Rick's, but I think it will do the job. I plan to attach it to the back of my pack on the outside, so that it is easy to get to, but out of the way.

    Here is a review of the bag itself:
    http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...415#post400415
    Last edited by finallyME; 06-12-2013 at 10:07 AM.
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    Nice kit, FM. I tend to carry a bit more, but you've got most of it covered for a hiking kit. Any room in your pack for a SAM Splint and a thick 1'x1' sheet of plastic?
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    Very cool......some time and planning went it to that.
    Thanks for posting.
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    I have a SAM splint and decided against it. I figure I can improvise from nature with sticks and stuff. I also debated on some type of chest seal. I might get one, however, I do have large pieces of plastic sheet in my backpack (various garbage bags for keeping gear dry).
    Thanks for reminding me to explain why I didn't include those items.
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    Great post. It's amazing how much stuff will fit in a Rip Away Pouch isn't it? Curious how you picked up the Epi's? Aren't they script only?

    It doesn't matter whether it's as good as mine or even better. What matters is whether it's right for you and your skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finallyME View Post
    This weekend, and in a few weeks, I plan to take the boys scouts backpacking. This weekend is a 2 nighter/ 15 miler, and in July is a 5 nighter/ 30+ miler. I am actually getting a good sized troop (we might actually have 11 this weekend), so I have been thinking about beefing out my first aid kit a little better. Also, I have always considered my kit lacking something. And, I never liked the way I carried it before (just in a roll top bag). So, I went and bought a fancy Condor Rip Away pouch, and used my Flex Spending to fill it with high speed stuff. I put together a video showing what I put in the kit. A quick disclaimer first: This is the stuff I am trained to use. I thought about adding a few other things, but decided against because of lack of training in those things.



    For those who don't or can't watch youtube, I took a couple pictures.

    Here it is all laid out in the pouch. Everything is tucked away, nothing is loose.
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    Going from left to right, here is the left side:
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    From top left, there are two baggies with small gauze squares in sealed packages, along with a bit of paper towel folded up.
    EMT shears
    tweezers
    providone iodine solution for sterilizing water for irrigation
    a 30 ml irrigation syringe
    on the bottom left, steri strips for closing large cut
    2 epi pens ( I have a scout who is allergic to bees)

    Here is the middle section:
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    Starting at top left is the green horse wrap. It is a self adhering wrap that is cheaper and larger than what Walmart sells.
    Quick Clot
    two pairs of gloves
    middle left: blue cpr mask
    4 inch Israeli bandage
    bottom left: vacuum sealed compressed gauze
    athletic cloth tape
    triangular bandage

    Here is the right section, from in the zippered pocket:
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    Starting from top left: 1 suture kit ( I am not trained with this, I won't use it, only someone trained will, if available)
    a bunch of butterfly bandages
    triple antibiotic ointment packets
    hydrocortizone packets
    anti-diarrhea pills
    chap stick
    tylenol
    advil
    tape
    Middle left: normal bandages
    hydrocortizone pills
    tums
    heart burn- acid reflux OTC pills
    bottom left: smaller bandages
    iodine wipes
    unknown pills (why you label pills) TRY THIS http://www.drugs.com/pill_identification.html
    skin super glue
    sewing needle in cardboard case
    sewing thread on bobbin
    gorilla tape wrapped around piece of plastic
    feminine hygiene product

    Here is the full kit laid out
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    It isn't as cool as Rick's, but I think it will do the job. I plan to attach it to the back of my pack on the outside, so that it is easy to get to, but out of the way.

    Here is a review of the bag itself:
    http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...415#post400415
    I use the little pill bags to store my drugs I can write on them and its more compact than bottles. http://www.drugs.com/pill_identification.html
    I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by finallyME View Post
    I have a SAM splint and decided against it. I figure I can improvise from nature with sticks and stuff. I also debated on some type of chest seal. I might get one, however, I do have large pieces of plastic sheet in my backpack (various garbage bags for keeping gear dry).
    Thanks for reminding me to explain why I didn't include those items.

    here is a link to an improvised chest seal. http://adventuredoc.net/2013/01/05/i...ed-chest-seal/.
    I may have overlooked it, but I saw nothing for burns.
    I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"

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    I did a lot of reading on chest seals and have a couple different types. In all my readings the HALO appears to outperform all others. Here's an article the sums up the test pretty nicely.

    http://www.jems.com/article/industry...al-outperforms
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    I did a lot of reading on chest seals and have a couple different types. In all my readings the HALO appears to outperform all others. Here's an article the sums up the test pretty nicely.

    http://www.jems.com/article/industry...al-outperforms
    I have all three in my bag, Halo , Asherman, and hyfin. they all pretty much do the same job , in my personal experience its how well they stay adhered to the chest and halo is #1 .
    I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by welderguy View Post
    here is a link to an improvised chest seal. http://adventuredoc.net/2013/01/05/i...ed-chest-seal/.
    I may have overlooked it, but I saw nothing for burns.

    Hey, you are right. I even bought some burn gel to put in, and forgot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by welderguy View Post
    I use the little pill bags to store my drugs I can write on them and its more compact than bottles. http://www.drugs.com/pill_identification.html
    Thanks for the link. I will use it when I get home to see what the mystery pills are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finallyME View Post
    Thanks for the link. I will use it when I get home to see what the mystery pills are.
    your welcome, i do that all the time thats why that link is on my favorites bar !! LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Great post. It's amazing how much stuff will fit in a Rip Away Pouch isn't it? Curious how you picked up the Epi's? Aren't they script only?

    It doesn't matter whether it's as good as mine or even better. What matters is whether it's right for you and your skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Great post. It's amazing how much stuff will fit in a Rip Away Pouch isn't it? Curious how you picked up the Epi's? Aren't they script only?

    It doesn't matter whether it's as good as mine or even better. What matters is whether it's right for you and your skills.
    The reason I have the epis is because of one scout who is allergic to bee stings. His mom gave them to me.
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    One thing I forgot to mention is that I purchased a bunch of the stuff from Chinook medical. I found most of the stuff on Amazon, however, Chinook Medical took my Flex Spending card.
    http://www.chinookmed.com/
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    I don't think I'd buy meds from eBay. I'd like to think that any EPI pen I get would have the real stuff in it and not kerosene or some other goop.

    Chinookmed is good. I've done some business with them and I've never had a problem. A bit pricey but (shrug).
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    Alright, I added some burn cream, and found out the mystery drug is Diphenhydramine or Diphedryl, which is an antihistamine. Thanks for all your help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    I don't think I'd buy meds from eBay. I'd like to think that any EPI pen I get would have the real stuff in it and not kerosene or some other goop.

    Chinookmed is good. I've done some business with them and I've never had a problem. A bit pricey but (shrug).
    I wouldnt buy it from ebay either. but people do!!! I like north american rescue and rescue-essentials. two good companys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finallyME View Post
    Alright, I added some burn cream, and found out the mystery drug is Diphenhydramine or Diphedryl, which is an antihistamine. Thanks for all your help.
    BTW, if you carry prescription meds in your kit make sure there in the original bottle and in your name.
    I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"

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