Willow for fire - Page 2

crashdive123 · 05-09-2010, 01:29 AM

Well done Batch.

Batch · 05-09-2010, 03:32 AM

Thanks guys and thanks for the help.

Rick · 05-09-2010, 12:26 PM

Oh Yeah? Well....

Congrats!

your_comforting_company · 05-09-2010, 12:40 PM

Congratulations!
I know the feeling you got when you held the fire in your hands. It's hard to describe that feeling. I smile every time I make friction fire, you just can't help it!
Well done Batch! Way to go!
Now that you have a combination that works, practice with that until the mechanics become second nature and you can do it properly without thinking about it. Once you've mastered the posture and workings, you can experiment with any wood you come across.
Keep it up and congrats one more time. It's a great feeling!!

Batch · 05-10-2010, 03:20 AM

Well, I am not happy with my Sabal palm fluff for fire bow tinder. I ran out of grass and I think that was the real thing. Besides not rushing the coal.

My mom and dad came over tonight for mothers day and my dad was real interested in the kit. So, I made a coal for him. But, I didn't try fire because the difficulty with the tinder I have left. He was really impressed with the ability to make such a coal. After I set it down my brother picked it up and played with the coal in some other type of wheat like grass I picked up in the glades. He got a lot of smoke and I doubt it would take much to make fire with a proper bundle.

I am picking grass up tomorrow in the glades. We don't have that type of grass in our neighborhoods down here anymore. Still some farm fields. But, not like when I was a kid. Manicured lawns don't have dead grass. LOL

I will be posting video shortly...

your_comforting_company · 05-10-2010, 10:36 AM

I have not attempted to learn grasses yet, but there are lots of different kinds that are usable. I like using my lawn clippings after they've dried for a few days. Pompous grass usually has enough dead in it and there are clumps of what grandma calls "rabbit grass" but looks a lot like "border grass" to me but grows wild and it usually has lots of dead in it too.
I'm looking forward to the video.
Great work. And good job introducing others to primitive skills!

crashdive123 · 05-10-2010, 10:52 AM

If it's available to you Batch, add some pine straw to your birds nest mixture. I usually add a few types of materials to make one. The point you bring up about what is available is a good one. This is why I keep a few 3-4 inch lengths of sisal rope in my kits. Unfray a section and it makes a great birds nest. While not natural, it works if nothing else is available or dry.

Batch · 05-11-2010, 12:22 AM

Crash, we do have pine needles a plenty. I thought about that on the way home. I blew off stopping this afternoon cause I had field guys calling for all kinds of problems today. So far Mondays are Garfield like in my new job. LOL

Lots of tinder combinations to try. Is the sisal rope the same as the jute rope?

crashdive123 · 05-11-2010, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Batch

Crash, we do have pine needles a plenty. I thought about that on the way home. I blew off stopping this afternoon cause I had field guys calling for all kinds of problems today. So far Mondays are Garfield like in my new job. LOL

Lots of tinder combinations to try. Is the sisal rope the same as the jute rope?

Jute and sisal are similar. Sisal is made (I think) from agave fibers and jute uses a few different fibers. Next time you're in Home Depot check out the section with ropes and wires. The sisal (at least at this end of the state) is sold in 50' pre-packaged lengths. The jute is on the larger spools.

Batch · 05-11-2010, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by crashdive123

Jute and sisal are similar. Sisal is made (I think) from agave fibers and jute uses a few different fibers. Next time you're in Home Depot check out the section with ropes and wires. The sisal (at least at this end of the state) is sold in 50' pre-packaged lengths. The jute is on the larger spools.

I will. Jute has been recommended so much I almost have to try it.

05-09-2010, 01:29 AM	#21
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05-09-2010, 12:40 PM	#24
your_comforting_company naturalist primitive Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: 31º4.3'N, 84º52.7'W Posts: 1,938 Blog Entries: 6	Congratulations! I know the feeling you got when you held the fire in your hands. It's hard to describe that feeling. I smile every time I make friction fire, you just can't help it! Well done Batch! Way to go! Now that you have a combination that works, practice with that until the mechanics become second nature and you can do it properly without thinking about it. Once you've mastered the posture and workings, you can experiment with any wood you come across. Keep it up and congrats one more time. It's a great feeling!! __________________ It's so easy a caveman can do it! --------------------------------------------------- The abundance around us is amazing. Be thankful. Everything you need is waiting there for you to find. Be aware. The lessons nature will teach you are magnificent. Be humble. My Plants - Updated 8/19 My skills Eye Candy Plant terminology reference! Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. -Thomas Edison

05-10-2010, 10:36 AM	#26
your_comforting_company naturalist primitive Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: 31º4.3'N, 84º52.7'W Posts: 1,938 Blog Entries: 6	I have not attempted to learn grasses yet, but there are lots of different kinds that are usable. I like using my lawn clippings after they've dried for a few days. Pompous grass usually has enough dead in it and there are clumps of what grandma calls "rabbit grass" but looks a lot like "border grass" to me but grows wild and it usually has lots of dead in it too. I'm looking forward to the video. Great work. And good job introducing others to primitive skills! __________________ It's so easy a caveman can do it! --------------------------------------------------- The abundance around us is amazing. Be thankful. Everything you need is waiting there for you to find. Be aware. The lessons nature will teach you are magnificent. Be humble. My Plants - Updated 8/19 My skills Eye Candy Plant terminology reference! Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. -Thomas Edison

05-10-2010, 10:52 AM	#27
crashdive123 Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 21,633 Blog Entries: 1	If it's available to you Batch, add some pine straw to your birds nest mixture. I usually add a few types of materials to make one. The point you bring up about what is available is a good one. This is why I keep a few 3-4 inch lengths of sisal rope in my kits. Unfray a section and it makes a great birds nest. While not natural, it works if nothing else is available or dry. __________________ Can't means won't! Crashblade Knives & More

05-09-2010, 03:32 AM	#22
Batch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 905	Thanks guys and thanks for the help.

05-10-2010, 03:20 AM	#25
Batch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 905	Well, I am not happy with my Sabal palm fluff for fire bow tinder. I ran out of grass and I think that was the real thing. Besides not rushing the coal. My mom and dad came over tonight for mothers day and my dad was real interested in the kit. So, I made a coal for him. But, I didn't try fire because the difficulty with the tinder I have left. He was really impressed with the ability to make such a coal. After I set it down my brother picked it up and played with the coal in some other type of wheat like grass I picked up in the glades. He got a lot of smoke and I doubt it would take much to make fire with a proper bundle. I am picking grass up tomorrow in the glades. We don't have that type of grass in our neighborhoods down here anymore. Still some farm fields. But, not like when I was a kid. Manicured lawns don't have dead grass. LOL I will be posting video shortly...

05-11-2010, 12:22 AM	#28
Batch Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 905	Crash, we do have pine needles a plenty. I thought about that on the way home. I blew off stopping this afternoon cause I had field guys calling for all kinds of problems today. So far Mondays are Garfield like in my new job. LOL Lots of tinder combinations to try. Is the sisal rope the same as the jute rope?