Thinking it through.

[nell67]

Originally Posted by Sarge47

That was actually a joke, just forgot to post a smiley.

WE I don't care what you do, knock yourself out. The 80% deal was a "what if" scenario.

Notice that I always capitalize the LIE in the middle of the word beLIEve??? It's my personal dig at the person (no longer a member of the forum) who brought the spelling issue up the first time,what a great night that was (not). My own reminder that spelling is a non-issue for us here,because we are all smart enough to 'cipher what our brothers and sisters mean even if it wasn't spelt korrectly

[Sarge47]

Originally Posted by nell67

Notice that I always capitalize the LIE in the middle of the word beLIEve??? It's my personal dig at the person (no longer a member of the forum) who brought the spelling issue up the first time,what a great night that was (not). My own reminder that spelling is a non-issue for us here,because we are all smart enough to 'cipher what our brothers and sisters mean even if it wasn't spelt korrectly

I know, my point is that if you really want people to understand what you're saying & if you claim that you don't want them to be mis-led, perhaps you might concentrate on keeping your posts understandable. Just a thought.

[DISCLAIMER! This post has NOT been approved by the Forum Police! ]

[Ken]

Both Life and Mother Nature have funny ways of throwing curveballs at us. From a historical perspective, mankind has never, without exception, witnessed a worst-case SHTF scenario.

Yeah, the human race has survived the black plague, pandemics, world wars, volcanic eruptions, earthquakes and tsunamis, nuclear detonations, and you name it. However, each was unique and worst case effects were mostly fairly "localized."

And remember, although the cause is still being debated, SOMETHING - SOME EVENT, has caused mass global extinctions to occur virtually instantly. The Earth has experienced ice ages, collisions with meteors, super-volcano eruptions........ all before mankind arived on the scene.

We're here to discuss survival, but let's not loose sight of reality. Some cataclysmic events could render entire continents or even the Earth itself uninhabitable.

Take the Yellowstone Supervolcano as an example. Will it erupt during our lifetimes? Who knows for sure? If it does, most of North America beyond the immediate death zone will be covered with ash powder laden with free silica, destroying the lungs of anyone who ventures out without a working filter. The ash will bury and poison and kill most plant life. Above-ground water supplies will become acidic beyond use. Plants, trees, fish, birds, mammals - every living thing for hundreds of thousands of square miles - will choke and die. Worldwide, weather conditions will drastically change immediately. The ash and smoke in the atmosphere will circle the Earth for years. Worldwide crop production will plummet.

Waves of death will come in stages - the immediate eruption - those who succumb within days from thermal and non-thermal injuries - those who perish from more long-term effects - those who starve to death or cannot otherwise survive in a poisoned environment.

Foraging wild food sources may not be an alternative for anyone. Just sayin.'

[wareagle69]

Originally Posted by Sarge47

Wow! You actually found an undeleted post that Remy left(like I care.)? I'm impressed! I was joking about the spelling dude! Sheeesh, lighten up!
Proof? For a "what if" scenario? What's up with you dude?

1st, who are you to dictate my behavior to me? Furthermore, you seem to have a problem about my MOD status as you're the one that mentioned it! What does that have to do with my questions? Actually this was all relating to your sticky in the 1st place: "An absolute must-read."
actually i have no problem with your moderating, for the most part you seem to be fair, as for my thread "an absolute must read" bugging out is a second option but..... foraging is still viable while bugging in
I don't. Hmmm, so your the "forum cop now? That's nice. I assume you'll be doing that with everybody since that's only fair, right?

me being a forum cop will only pertain to what i know about, if crash were to come on here and post something about knife making i would not know it to be true or false, i would expect someone that does know to correct him if he is wrong, same as i will do about wild edibles, your statment "trust me" about who will be out foraging evrything is not backed up with any facts, if you had chosen to say "in my opinion" it might be different.
Now another point that you mentioned about me not knowing what is or is not in your forests, that is correct but i dare to say neither do you. Go spend the next 3 to 4 years of your life studying wild edibles then come back and make that statement, as far as you know there may be tons of edibles out there.
Now to address your comment on checking my spelling, if you say you were joking then ok, i'll taake it as that, but when in the middle of an argement or what ever this is, it is an often thrown around insult,
Sarge take this for whatever it is we both have been here for a long time and are like family, they squabble all the time but get over it sooner or later, heck crash never posted on any of my threads for a year (yes i noticed btw) but in an effert to keep things real and accurate i will butt in on anyone claiming something.
lets take for example your post a whiile ago about someone here saying they was going for a walk in a city park with a pocket knife and you got on and said "whoa a pocket knife ?wheres the first aif kit?" now to me thats a little ridicoulous and exessive but it is your opinion that one should have a first aid kit with them, thats cool thats your opinion i cannot correct you on that, but when you make a statement "trust me" that is now entering a different context especially if its about wild edibles.
hope we can still be freinds, balls in your court
WE

[your_comforting_company]

Originally Posted by nell67

Notice that I always capitalize the LIE in the middle of the word beLIEve??? It's my personal dig at the person (no longer a member of the forum) who brought the spelling issue up the first time,what a great night that was (not). My own reminder that spelling is a non-issue for us here,because we are all smart enough to 'cipher what our brothers and sisters mean even if it wasn't spelt korrectly

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[Rick]

Ken - I think you are pretty close to the mark on your post. Everyone likes to think of themselves as the last cat strolling through town but it won't be like that and we all know it deep down inside. If most go then you're probably on the list to go too. Beyond the cataclysmic stuff like Old Yellowstone or that big hunka hunka burning rock hurtlin' at us from the Milky Way the rest of the stuff will really be based on perception.

If the news tells us it's bad then, by golly, it will be bad. If the news tells us it's not all that bad, then we'll be talking about what a nuisance the whole thing has been. We're funny like that. Orson Welles sort of proved that with War of the Worlds even though he wasn't trying to. This recession is a good example, too. Some have proclaimed and continue to proclaim it the end of all things holy. Some call it the resurrection of mankind. A fresh start. Most of us are somewhere in between...more or less. But it really depends on our perception of it as to how bad we think it is. When TSHTS I suspect it will be the same with that, too.

Did anyone feel that or was it just me?

[Sarge47]

Originally Posted by wareagle69

me being a forum cop will only pertain to what i know about, if crash were to come on here and post something about knife making i would not know it to be true or false, i would expect someone that does know to correct him if he is wrong, same as i will do about wild edibles, your statment "trust me" about who will be out foraging evrything is not backed up with any facts, if you had chosen to say "in my opinion" it might be different.

Ok, my bad! I use "trust me" as a figure of speech. So let me just clarify the point. My wife has tomes of printed material & buried among those thousands of pages is documented evidence about wild greens that no longer exist because of large masses of people grazing off of the land in years gone by. I went to her for the documentation & she now tells me she can't find it right away. Her health is very bad, she's trying to help her sister who's about to be foreclosed on & will have to move, as well as taking care of what's left of her late father's estate. Had I known that the evidence was going to be hard to produce I would have waited.

Originally Posted by wareagle69

Now another point that you mentioned about me not knowing what is or is not in your forests, that is correct but I dare to say neither do you.

I would agree that you have much more knowledge than me on that subject

Originally Posted by wareagle69

Go spend the next 3 to 4 years of your life studying wild edibles then come back and make that statement, as far as you know there may be tons of edibles out there.

The thing is, WE, is that here, our forests are disappearing altogether. They're dwindling more & more as our towns & cities grow and the developers chop them up for huge apartment complexes and the like. Or farmers push them back to make bigger fields to plant in as their fields get taken over by the developers under something called "Eminent Domain."

Originally Posted by wareagle69

Now to address your comment on checking my spelling, if you say you were joking then ok, I'll take it as that, but when in the middle of an argument or what ever this is, it is an often thrown around insult.

That's true, my bad again. (By the way, I'm 'proofing" this post. )

Originally Posted by wareagle69

Sarge take this for whatever it is we both have been here for a long time and are like family, they squabble all the time but get over it sooner or later, heck crash never posted on any of my threads for a year (yes I noticed btw) but in an effort to keep things real and accurate I will butt in on anyone claiming something.

That's fine, but don't think for one minute that I use my title to influence anybody. Hybrid just left over some silly crap & no one has a clue as to why so I suppose that comment just rankled; I apologize. (Can we hug now & sing Cum-by-ya?")

Originally Posted by wareagle69

lets take for example your post a while ago about someone here saying they was going for a walk in a city park with a pocket knife and you got on and said "whoa a pocket knife? Wheres the first aid kit?" now to me that's a little ridiculous and excessive but it is your opinion that one should have a first aid kit with them, that's cool that's your opinion i cannot correct you on that, but when you make a statement "trust me" that is now entering a different context especially if its about wild edibles.

Actually, it's about anything edible. For Example, during our nation-wide depression people resorted to eating things that we might find disgusting today. On the flip-side, they did some very inventive things as well.

Originally Posted by wareagle69

Hope we can still be friends, balls in your court. WE

Sure we can. Now, about the 1st aid kit, it's a very important piece of equipment. It just seems to me that many members come on here placing a higher priority on their knife than on a kit that can save their life. If someone goes on a day hike then, IMO, they should take a "10 essentials kit." That's mainly because I strongly suspect most of them don't have the same amount of knowledge or experience that you & others on this forum do regarding the outdoors. By me posting that I'm hoping to have them explain themselves further.

The bottom line here is that I want people to be able to start thinking about things that they may have missed before. I think that some on here have done just that. It's why I always thought that your sticky: "An absolute must-read" is so very important. That's the impression YOU made on me!