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    Sometime ago I posted about the wife's jeep getting burglarized. Someone used a scanner to "catch" the keyless remote signal and after she left simply used a programable remote to unlock her vehicle and clean it out. Including a BOB, my new crash knife, a handgun and several other items.

    UPDATE!! got a follow-up call from the local police today. In addition to my wife's vehicle there have been over 50 burglaries using the same procedure since ours. You think it's a sophisticated burglary ring? Profesional theives?

    NOPE!! They also wanted to inform me they caught two of them. It seems they tried to rob a local convienence store using ths gun stolen from me!! Real desperados?

    Nope again............... They rolled on their buddies, Seems like a group of teenager's ages 14 to 17 total of 5 of them are the crime ring. Local police said that due to their age's since they commited no VIOLENT act's that they most likely won't be prosecuted AND to make matters worse. Since they attempted to use MY STOLEN gun in the commision of an armed robbery 99% chance that the weapon will be kept and destroyed by the police department. Does that make sense to any body?? Or am I just an idiot for having a scratch your head and wonder WTF is going on here moment.
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    Will you get compensated for the destruction of the gun?
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    Good that they caught them. Sucks about the gun. Is any of the other stuff they took recoverable? The not prosecuted thing puzzles me. Use a gun in the commission of a crime down here - you're doing some significant jail time.
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    Talk to the Prosecuting Attorney. That just doesn't sound right at all. What message does it send to them if they aren't prosecuted?!

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    That ain't right. Even in Massachusetts that wouldn't happen.

    The 17-year-old would be indicted and prosecuted in Superior Court as an adult, and, if convicted of those offenses, would likely serve several years - at least 3 minimum mandatory just for the loaded firearm, and that would be in addition to other sentences.

    Anyone under 17 would still be prosecuted, and would likely also serve a sentence. And the DA could still seek to have someone under 17 prosecuted as an adult.

    You may have to wait until all the prosecutions were over, but you would get your gun back as well - if it was stolen from your home. If the gun was in your vehicle unattended in Mass, you would probably be prosecuted as well.
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    Florida has the 10-20-Life law if a firearm is used in the commission of a crime. Since it's inception, gun crimes have dropped. http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/10-20-life/index.html
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    No that ain't right, That's why I say our system is no longer a "Justice System" but a "Legal System", no Justice at all for you the victim. I sure hope you get everything back. Unfortunately that will probably be after all the trials and appeals that might not even take place.

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    WOW!! Florida punishes the criminals and crime drops? WHAT A NOVEL IDEA!!!
    Sorry to hear about your gun but there is always that little thing called RESTITUTION!!!

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    I Hate How Everyone Sues Everyone As Much As The Next Guy..... But Either Give Me My Gun Back Or I'll Get The Money Outta Ya To Buy Another One.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    Will you get compensated for the destruction of the gun?
    Nope!! The cops said I'd have to take it up with my insurance company. Insurance company won't cover firearms stolen from vehicles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    Good that they caught them. Sucks about the gun. Is any of the other stuff they took recoverable? The not prosecuted thing puzzles me. Use a gun in the commission of a crime down here - you're doing some significant jail time.
    They claim to know nothing about the other stuff. Being under 18 they can get away with almost ANYTHING that is non-violent in nature.
    If by what I have learned over the years, allow me to help one person to start to prepare. If all the mistakes I have made, let me give one person the wisdom that allows them to save their life or the life of a loved one in an emergency. Then I will truly know that all the work I have done will have been worth every minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Talk to the Prosecuting Attorney. That just doesn't sound right at all. What message does it send to them if they aren't prosecuted?!

    http://www.vanderburghprosecutor.org/
    Tried that. Due to the increase in serious crime here. drug related, domestic violence etc. burglary especially juvinile is no longer a priority.
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    I would think that using a gun in the commission of a crime, even if not fired would not be considered non-violent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pocomoonskyeyes View Post
    No that ain't right, That's why I say our system is no longer a "Justice System" but a "Legal System", no Justice at all for you the victim. I sure hope you get everything back. Unfortunately that will probably be after all the trials and appeals that might not even take place.
    They (the theives) say that they don't know anything about the other stuff. So it's gone. I had already settled on that.
    If by what I have learned over the years, allow me to help one person to start to prepare. If all the mistakes I have made, let me give one person the wisdom that allows them to save their life or the life of a loved one in an emergency. Then I will truly know that all the work I have done will have been worth every minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    That ain't right. Even in Massachusetts that wouldn't happen.

    The 17-year-old would be indicted and prosecuted in Superior Court as an adult, and, if convicted of those offenses, would likely serve several years - at least 3 minimum mandatory just for the loaded firearm, and that would be in addition to other sentences.

    Anyone under 17 would still be prosecuted, and would likely also serve a sentence. And the DA could still seek to have someone under 17 prosecuted as an adult.

    You may have to wait until all the prosecutions were over, but you would get your gun back as well - if it was stolen from your home. If the gun was in your vehicle unattended in Mass, you would probably be prosecuted as well.
    Since it was a legally registered firearm and I have a state and federal concel carry it was/is legal to have in a vehicle as long as it is "secured" being in a bag out of plain sight is considered secure.
    If it was stolen from my home My insurance ( homeowners) would over it. Even though I wouldn't get it back from the police.
    If by what I have learned over the years, allow me to help one person to start to prepare. If all the mistakes I have made, let me give one person the wisdom that allows them to save their life or the life of a loved one in an emergency. Then I will truly know that all the work I have done will have been worth every minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    I would think that using a gun in the commission of a crime, even if not fired would not be considered non-violent.
    Welcome to the socialist state of Indiana. ( sorry to get political)
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    Well heck - just go and beat his a**.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    Well heck - just go and beat his a**.
    Believe me vanderburg county and city of evansville will.........
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    If by what I have learned over the years, allow me to help one person to start to prepare. If all the mistakes I have made, let me give one person the wisdom that allows them to save their life or the life of a loved one in an emergency. Then I will truly know that all the work I have done will have been worth every minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    Well heck - just go and beat his a**.
    Or hire some other delinquent to do it for you!

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