pgvoutdoors is gone!

[Alpine_Sapper]

i don't see this as dramtics or theatrics, phil is just stating a point as to why he feels he does not want to be here anymore, i liked your info phil, you kept this place what it is all about
wilderness survival and emergency preperation, a fact forgotten by some here.

Yeah, sure. *shrug* If you say so. I just don't see why it was necessary to have a private conversation with Chris, and then come cry about someone picking on him in public with a short rant, ending in "I'm running away".

Seems like really childish actions to me, and not suited to someone who is guiding others in the wilderness. I'd fire my guide with a quickness if he started this emotional rag crap in the bush.

[chiye tanka]

PGV, i wish you would reconsider. You'll be missed greatly.

[mountain mama]

I have to agree that it seems a bit melodramatic to publicly announce one's departure from a forum...it would make a much grander statement to just leave without saying a word and have others ask why privately.

[gryffynklm]

I seem to be out of the loop and clueless, thats OK I'm used to it. Perhaps announcing his leaving was done to provoke thought and change in the forum, what ever that change might be.

Although you won't be reading this. Sorry to read of your leaving, your posts have been helpful.

[mountain mama]

Rather than leaving, wouldn't it be better to post a thought provoking topic regarding the change you feel is needed? Or at the very least, send a PM to the individual(s) who you feel have/has posted "antagonizing comments?" For all I know, I could inadvertently be one of the individuals referred to. I can assure you if it was me, it was not intentional and a simple PM would get my attention much easier than you leaving. Just food for thought.

[wildography]

Rather than leaving, wouldn't it be better to post a thought provoking topic regarding the change you feel is needed? Or at the very least, send a PM to the individual(s) who you feel have/has posted "antagonizing comments?" For all I know, I could inadvertently be one of the individuals referred to. I can assure you if it was me, it was not intentional and a simple PM would get my attention much easier than you leaving. Just food for thought.

Outstanding post, 'Mama'! It is much better to confront the "antagonizers" directly... without getting nasty, belittling, or mean... and ask what's going on with their so-called "mean-spirited" post. Often times, you will find that no offense was intended.

I would much rather give someone the opportunity to prove that they are intentionally antagonizing others than just assume that is the case. If they are intentionally doing so... then take that up with Chris or just ignore them. Why "run away" from those "mean-spirited" people?... they will just do it to others. Take a stand for what is right... don't take a stand against an "adversary" that truly meant no harm... they are not your adversary. Perhaps they just didn't communicate properly.

Personally, I don't particularly care if people "like" me... if they do, great. If they don't - why is that? and does it matter? I'm here to learn, and perhaps contribute a little bit. If friendships - or enemies - are developed along the way... that is another issue...

[trax]

To all those rambling on about pgv's use of 'melodramatics' or looking for a 'pity party' or whatever, my personal thinking is that Phil isn't the kind of guy who would use the forum that way. (A lot of other people, yeah, but not this guy)

Phil, if you're still reading here, what my bro said is accurate. You always kept the threads on track about what this forum is supposed to be about so I hope you'll reconsider and stay.

[nell67]

The offending posts were not directed AT Phil,but rather at other members of the forum,and it has happened before,some of us just do not post very often anymore because of one certain person.

My feelings is that he is not leaving because of anything said to him,but for what was allowed to be said to others.

I too wish he would reconsider and stay.

[trax]

The offending posts were not directed AT Phil,but rather at other members of the forum,and it has happened before,some of us just do not post very often anymore because of one certain person.

Was it me? Because, you know, I find that a lot here in my social life.....the family always said I didn't have any social graces (heartfelt sigh)

[nell67]

No dear,I was not talking about you,and your social graces are more than adequate!

[trax]

No dear,I was not talking about you,and your social graces are more than adequate!

well, you have Nora to thank for the social graces, she's been larnin' me not to hoard all the shrooms....

[nell67]

Speaking of 'shrooms..... walked out for about 10 minutes before work a couple of days ago and found 5,showed the daughter how to find them,and she found one bigger than all the ones I found....must be all right as a teacher,eh???

[trax]

You're the best MDN, now contact pgv and tell him you need help mpicking mushrooms (that's it, a barefaced lie, yeah) and he should get his butt back here immediately.

[nell67]

Will do!!!!!!!!

[Ole WV Coot]

Was it me? Because, you know, I find that a lot here in my social life.....the family always said I didn't have any social graces (heartfelt sigh)

I gotta take the blame Son. Social graces just ain't in our gene pool or swamp. You're doing better and I probably should be more serious, but it's kinda like diarrhea it comes thru your jeans.

[tonester]

i dont think hes looking for a pitty party or trying to start drama... all he said is he is leaving and the reason for that. i think others are making a bigger deal out of this situation and are the ones actually starting the drama.

[Alpine_Sapper]

i dont think hes looking for a pitty party or trying to start drama... all he said is he is leaving and the reason for that. i think others are making a bigger deal out of this situation and are the ones actually starting the drama.

The point is that if he wanted to leave, just leave.

Don't go announcing it publicly, because that is a cry for attention and nothing more. If there was truly an issue with someone on the forums, fine. Address it with that person. Privately or publicly, it doesn't matter. If it still doesn't get resolved, put them on your ignore list.

I asked to have my account deleted months prior to this, but was told no, that if I wanted to leave, just leave, by the owner and admin's. They stated they didn't want to see me go, but that if I wanted to, etc, but they wouldn't delete an account because it disrupts the flow of the threads. Fine. I left. But you didn't see a public post from me saying

"You're all so mean and pick on me and each other. I'm taking my toys and going home."

Why? Because I don't need your attention, or your approval. I'm content with who I am, and don't really give a rat's *** if you like me or not.

I'm here because *I want to be here*.

If I decide to leave, you won't see me announce it publicly. If I consider you a friend or someone I would like to keep in touch with I'll send you a PM and ask for an email address or something.

[trax]

I gotta take the blame Son. Social graces just ain't in our gene pool or swamp. You're doing better and I probably should be more serious, but it's kinda like diarrhea it comes thru your jeans.

Yeah, but you gave me the 'shine brewing instructions and that means so much more....

[Rick]

Is it just me or did Coot call Trax a little s**t? It's probably me.

[doug1980]

The point is that if he wanted to leave, just leave.

Don't go announcing it publicly, because that is a cry for attention and nothing more. If there was truly an issue with someone on the forums, fine. Address it with that person. Privately or publicly, it doesn't matter. If it still doesn't get resolved, put them on your ignore list.

I asked to have my account deleted months prior to this, but was told no, that if I wanted to leave, just leave, by the owner and admin's. They stated they didn't want to see me go, but that if I wanted to, etc, but they wouldn't delete an account because it disrupts the flow of the threads. Fine. I left. But you didn't see a public post from me saying

"You're all so mean and pick on me and each other. I'm taking my toys and going home."

Why? Because I don't need your attention, or your approval. I'm content with who I am, and don't really give a rat's *** if you like me or not.

I'm here because *I want to be here*.

If I decide to leave, you won't see me announce it publicly. If I consider you a friend or someone I would like to keep in touch with I'll send you a PM and ask for an email address or something.

Well said.