Hmmmmmm. I thought this was the camo of choice in Wisconsin.
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Hmmmmmm. I thought this was the camo of choice in Wisconsin.
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I read on another forum that camo clothing is more of a status thing. Something to wear at camp and stuff. Sort of a redneck fad. All my life I have wore camo, military mainly, then went out and bought all this camo for hunting and realized it was not needed. I have a guille suit from cabelas, two complete sets of camo for hunting and tons of my military camo from the old BDU, DCU and now ABU. I have matching bags for all the camo but rarely use any of it. The guille suit will never be used but it was cool at the time to have. Just a status thing I guess.
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Save your money. Here's the next generation of camo.
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I have found that wearing *earth colored checkered shirts from Wal Mart, a dark brown pair of wranglers and a dark colored ball cap with a bill to shade my face works very well.
You can wear Hunter Red and do ok as long as you watch your shadows, movement in open areas or refrain from any quick or constant movements.
*You can wear that outfit in amost any urban area and not get a second look from anyone
Most people can't refrain from moving. adjusting this or that, scratching, adjusting their position to get more comfortable and they don't realize they are doing it.
Lying, sitting, and or standing still requires practice.
Use the natural materials from the area in which you are operating. IE: local soil mixed with water from your canteen, refresh as required.Do you have any suggestions for covering them?
Surivial is just an unplanned adventure when you are prepared
That (IMHO) is why the different types of ASAT 3-D Camo is better.
And find this with any other brand:
For those of you on the fence I offer you this challenage:
If you use ASAT Camo exclusively for 1 year and do not see more game than you ever have wearing any other brand of camo, we will buy it back guaranteed!
Rob Smollack, President - ASAT Camouflage
But I'd rather use hopeak's cabin color camo. Although that color camo must be awfully loud....
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[QUOTE=Beans;108639]Most people can't refrain from moving. adjusting this or that, scratching, adjusting their position to get more comfortable and they don't realize they are doing it.
Lying, sitting, and or standing still requires practice.
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thats the truth. Movements are the thing that give you away- even when camo'd up and with the wind in you favor. I should have had that on my list as well. That dang itch under the hat!!! has probably ruined many a shot opportunities
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I personally don't bother with camo. I see plenty worn in shopping malls and restaurants by people who have no use for it at all. I have the stuff somebody bought as a gift but I did rather well with earth colored clothing. Guess they are playing "war" or some game because a decent hunter can make his kill. When I was a youngster back in the '50s an old pair of jeans, faded shirt and a Case stockman in my pocket was all I needed.
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My "camo" was a tan hunting jacket that I got 40 years ago. It was about as stiff as firehose but it was great. I wore that thing hunting for years and years until it mysteriously shrank and no longer fit. I think the only thing camo I own is a USMC hat that's around here somewhere.
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I wear camo pants everyday because they are comfortble and they have lots of pockets for all of my gear. I have got to where I like the military digital camo real well now also. I have tested it out in the woods around my house and my son says that it is really hard to pick me out whenever I try to blend in to the terrain.
Take only what you need, and leave the rest.
Me too - when I'm napping under a tree down by the stream.it is really hard to pick me out whenever I try to blend in to the terrain
I think the "ghillie suit" is one of the one of best ways to go... you can adapt it to various types of settings by adding grasses, branches, leaves, etc... main thing is... don't overdo it.
I used to have something that I called a ghillie "hide", a 10'X4' rectangle of fish net, with "realtree" camo netting tied to it. I also had brown twine sticking out every six inches or so. Tie grass, sage brush, small branches with leaves/pine needles, etc to it and drape it over you or around you, kinda like a blanket. You could also tie it (or I used brown, wood "spring-type" clothes pins) up as a overhead "tarp", as a "wall", as a "lean-to" or as a "blind".... properly placed and used, its almost impossible to spot.... of course, it doesn't work as well for walking around, stalking, etc. But it helps break up your outline when moving. At those times, I'd wear it kind of like a "poncho", with clothes pins holding it in place.
Oh... also... the best type of camoflauge is to have "something" (man, animal, bird) look at you, and not "see" you. When I lived in Yosemite, I'd regularly wear just "whatever", usually some kind of earthtones, and stalk Black Bear, Mule Deer, Bobcat, Coyote... of course they were "used" to human presence and scent, so that made easier. I even "snuck up on" a dozing coyote once, by moving across 100 yards of open field so I could get close enough for a good photo. The coyote knew I was there and could see me plainly... but, because of the way that I moved, he didn't think that I could see him, so he stayed "hidden". I got about 25 yards away from him, shot a few photos of him (from over my shoulder, facing away from him) and moved on... and he went back to sleep... secure in the knowledge that "that stupid human never even saw me".
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woodlander1314: What area of WI are you in? The southern areas (too many damned corn fields) are going to need very different types of camouflage than the northwoods. If you are in woodland, and I'm guessing you are judging by the screen name, is it hardwood, mixed, brush, pine, etc? Take a look around the area you will be hunting in. See the primary colors and basic patterns they make? If you are going to wear camouflage then those are the colors and pattens you need to try to emulate. There are a ton of hunting and military patterns out there. Everyone says theirs is the best. You may need to try a few to see what works for you and what doesn't.
About turkey hunting... The biggest thing is remaining still. I don't know how many hunters I've heard complain that they just couldn't get any turkeys to come in. Yet when I am out in the farm I am constantly able to get within easy shooting distances (assuming that I was actually hunting them) all the time. The trick? No sudden movements. Hell I've been walking and gotten withing 20ft of some! But as soon as I made a quick movement they took flight.
Good luck with your hunting and I hope you find a camouflage that works well for you!
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The ASAT test pics page shows you how good it is.
http://asatcamo.com/2_2_testphotos.htm
Depending upon on the terrian you can slip issued green or tan boot socks over your boots, after you get to a location that camo is required. The woven material kills the shine and the shape. They also help dampen the sounds of your footsteps or anything scraping against your boots.I understand the S's, i can do that my brother showed me before he died. I was just curious about what you would suggest for covering my feet. Thank you.
The downside is that they wear out quickly, if you do much movement after putting them on.
A worn field pair of unpolished boots seem to blend in. The scuffs Etc
FWIW I had USMC camo drummed into my head for 10 years and taught company level camo classes.
We used the socks for everything including covering the old metal canteen to kill the shine and the sound of a canteen cap accidently hitting the canteen. The new plastic canteens elimated that problem. You can see the socks still used today to kill the shine of the dust glasses worn on the front of the Marines helmets, when they can't get the issued coverings.
They can be used to cover the front of scope to elimate reflection. It will also reduce the light gathering ability of the scope.
If you use a spotlight illuminating the area at night the unprotected scope/ binos lens shine more then you would expect, and make detection easy.
ASAT is good camo. Just remember that when you look at a photo you are only seeing one dimension.The ASAT test pics page shows you how good it is.
The early WWII USMC Raider camo was very good camo for a stationary object but failed when slight movement was added so they quit issuing it, except for the helmet covers.
The new issued camo helps even during slight movement
Last edited by Beans; 03-26-2009 at 08:57 PM. Reason: information added
Surivial is just an unplanned adventure when you are prepared
I worked with a UK commando by the name of Anthony Lovatt, he taught military camo courses for a good part of his life and he was helping me eliminate shine. I had taken one of those mesh masks you put over the faces of horses to keep the flies out, i cut it into a circular shape and tied it around my scope, it worked pretty well, the only problem i had was i lost a bit of light but luckily the crosshairs on my scope are laser illuminated.
Thanks again for the advice
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