Grandpa's Knife

**Stargazer** · 03-02-2009, 04:44 PM

Not sure if this is the right place to post this.But I just wanted to share a pic of a knife that was handed down to me by my grandfather.

My grandfather was born in 1904.As a baby he and his family moved to Co.The Carsons were one of thier neighbors.This knife was given to one of my grandfathers older brothers by a mountain man named Kit Carson.I dont remember if Kit make this knife or traded for it.

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**DOGMAN** · 03-02-2009, 05:02 PM

thats really cool

**Ken** · 03-02-2009, 05:26 PM

Don't get rid of that one!

**Stargazer** · 03-02-2009, 06:00 PM

Ken, Not a chance that will happen.Its one of the few things I have left from him other than lots of great memories.

**crashdive123** · 03-02-2009, 06:03 PM

If that knife can be authenticated it is probably worth several thousand dollars.

**trax** · 03-02-2009, 06:33 PM

Well ....way to blow any chances of me making the guy an offer you guys, learn to shut up sometimes!! yeesh....awesome knife stargazer.

**Ole WV Coot** · 03-02-2009, 06:47 PM

Thanks Crash, just tore up my check for $10.00. I may be forced to get a job if this keeps up.

**crashdive123** · 03-02-2009, 06:53 PM

As a trusted member of the Quality Control Department, and after having analyzed the photograph closely, I have assessed the value of the knife at $9.00. Stargazer - I recommend that you take $10.00 for the knife from either Pops or Trax.

**trax** · 03-02-2009, 07:12 PM

I can't get into a bidding war with my Dad, Crash, he'll either:

a) offer Stargazer some of that fine home distilled beverage, or

b) kill me.

**crashdive123** · 03-02-2009, 07:19 PM

Just trying to keep it in the family.

**trax** · 03-02-2009, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by crashdive123

Just trying to keep it in the family.

Apparently so is Stargazer

**laughing beetle** · 03-02-2009, 08:35 PM

Oh, that is one sweet knife...

**Rick** · 03-02-2009, 08:51 PM

Imagine handing that down to your grandson some day. Great family treasure.

**Stargazer** · 03-02-2009, 11:05 PM

Thanks guys...Grandpa also gave me one of K.C.s powder horns.Nothing special about it looks like everyother one out there.

Id like to one day find out more of it history but dont know how to go about it.But being grandpa's its worth more to me than a dollar sighn..

You guys quit way to soon.I was holding out until someone offered me at least $11.50..

**crashdive123** · 03-02-2009, 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by Stargazer

Thanks guys...Grandpa also gave me one of K.C.s powder horns.Nothing special about it looks like everyother one out there.

Id like to one day find out more of it history but dont know how to go about it.But being grandpa's its worth more to me than a dollar sighn..

You guys quit way to soon.I was holding out until someone offered me at least $11.50..

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**vthompson** · 03-02-2009, 11:24 PM

That is one jim dandy heirloom. That is something to be proud of.

**FVR** · 03-02-2009, 11:39 PM

What you need to do is document your gear. You need dates and locations of the gifts or it's just your words or dreams against the nay sayers.

My grandfather was born in 1904.As a baby he and his family moved to Co.The Carsons were one of thier neighbors.This knife was given to one of my grandfathers older brothers by a mountain man named Kit Carson.I dont remember if Kit make this knife or traded for it.

For example, in your original post, The Carson's were their neighbors. Was it Kit Carson with his first wife, his second wife, his third wife, or was it his daughter later in life?

Since Kit Carson died in 1868, for him to give your grandfathers older brother a knife, at the time of your grandfathers birth (1904), the older brother would be well over 56 years old, if he was given the knife the day that he was born, which would have to be in 1868 when Kit Carson died.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm...................

I would like to know more. If you do have a viable story and knife and gear, there are many knowledgeable historians in the AMM that would love to see pics of your gear and know it's history.

But who am I to say you are throwing bs?

**crashdive123** · 03-02-2009, 11:44 PM

Nice catch FVR.

**Stargazer** · 03-03-2009, 12:51 AM

FVR..I have no reason to throw the BS..Im just an average guy that was lucky to have the grandfather I did.

After re-reading my post I did make it sound like it was Kitt himself that gave the knife to my grandfathers brother.Youre right in youre math that it was not.I believe it was 1905 or06 that they moved to Co.What I should have said was that it was given to my grandfathers brother from one of the Carsons as,one of Kitts knives.I am sorry for my choice of poor wording.

I do not remember who of the Carsons gave the knife.I do know it is missing a piece that may help or may not help IDing it...I'd hate to find out that my grandfather had been duped for all these years into thinking he had one of Kitts knives.If you know who can help clear up the ID i'd be more than happy to send pics to whoever needs them.

If you would like to PM me Id be more than happy to give you my number.Again this is no BS.I was just trying to re-tell a story I had heard from my grandfathe about his knife.

**Gray Wolf** · 03-03-2009, 09:09 PM

I'll still give ya the $11.50!

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