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    Quote Originally Posted by Pal334 View Post
    Then I guess that by your definition, I am an ignorant fool . I would have preferred to say uninformed, but to each their own. Typically ignorance is due to lazyness or arrogance.
    Oh by the way , this may help with how long the .22 hornet has been around:
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    Thanks Nell. Usually do. Actually an educational post Was only a nibble, not a bite
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stony View Post
    the 22. hornet kills game around the globe for - what? 100 years?
    only ignorant fools do not know this (fact).
    A hundred years? Umm, Where did you learn this tid-bit of information at? Or were you just making it up? I'm leaning toward "you made it up"! But hey, I reckon we've come to expect that from you!
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    The .22 Hornet's ancestry is generally attributed to experiments done in the 1920s using the black-powder .22 WCF at Springfield Armory. Winchester adopted what had so far been a wildcat cartridge in 1930, producing ammo for a cartridge for which no commercially-made guns yet had been built. It wasn't until 1932 that any company began selling commercially-made guns for the cartridge.

    Designer Townshend Whelen / G. L. Wotkyns
    Designed 1920's
    Manufacturer Winchester
    Produced 1930 - Today
    Variants .22 Hornet Ackley, .22 K-Hornet

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsitenha View Post
    The .22 Hornet's ancestry is generally attributed to experiments done in the 1920s using the black-powder .22 WCF at Springfield Armory. Winchester adopted what had so far been a wildcat cartridge in 1930, producing ammo for a cartridge for which no commercially-made guns yet had been built. It wasn't until 1932 that any company began selling commercially-made guns for the cartridge.

    Designer Townshend Whelen / G. L. Wotkyns
    Designed 1920's
    Manufacturer Winchester
    Produced 1930 - Today
    Variants .22 Hornet Ackley, .22 K-Hornet

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    So, when somebody says:
    the 22. hornet kills game around the globe for - what? 100 years?
    only ignorant fools do not know this (fact).
    they are displaying ignorance and foolishness?
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    Crash,, shocking isn't it ?
    .45 ACP Because shooting twice is silly... The avatar says it all,.45 because there isn't a.46

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    Sorry Nell,, could not resist
    .45 ACP Because shooting twice is silly... The avatar says it all,.45 because there isn't a.46

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    Displayed and enforced.

    for - what? 100 years?
    Only if the 22 Hornets velocity was able to exceed the time barrier.


    Townshend Whelen / G. L. Wotkyns: pretty big names in the firearms legacy
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    Easy does it ya'll. Like it says, if ya' live in a glass house don't throw stones.

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    rebel. You and Nell are right . Standing down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pal334 View Post
    rebel. You and Nell are right . Standing down.
    Standing down. Thats one of those military terms like "As you were" and "Fall in"

    Like when you are acting up a bit and an Officer or NCO catches you and says "As you were". He is really telling you to knock it off, but the words are saying "keep it up"

    Reminds me of when Gomer Pile first went into the military. His DS kept telling him to "fall in". Gomer would say "in to what". So the DS made him dig a whole to fall into.
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    You hit it on the head. 25 years of military just won't fade away . Besides I guess it makes sense to save the "big bite" for when it would actually do some good. And as for "As you were" , this is the way I was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pal334 View Post
    You hit it on the head. 25 years of military just won't fade away . Besides I guess it makes sense to save the "big bite" for when it would actually do some good. And as for "As you were" , this is the way I was.
    I loved the first 15 years of the military.....it was the last five that sucked....well there were a few years in the 80's I didn't care to much for. So I guess I only really enjoyed from 1987 to 1994. The rest of it kinda sucked........except that from 1992 to 1994 I was going to JRTC allot and that really sucked. Ok now what does that leave me with like 2 years that didn't suck. But that 2 years I was working in the MAC terminal. That sucks almost as bad as going to JRTC. I must have had some fun in there somewhere..........I hate to think half my life sucked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    I loved the first 15 years of the military.....it was the last five that sucked....well there were a few years in the 80's I didn't care to much for. So I guess I only really enjoyed from 1987 to 1994. The rest of it kinda sucked........except that from 1992 to 1994 I was going to JRTC allot and that really sucked. Ok now what does that leave me with like 2 years that didn't suck. But that 2 years I was working in the MAC terminal. That sucks almost as bad as going to JRTC. I must have had some fun in there somewhere..........I hate to think half my life sucked.
    You must have been inside my head There is so much that was good and so much was bad. I always had a dislike (maybe that is too strong a word) for "the machine", but after becoming an NCO, it was the people I really enjoyed. They made the mission enjoyable, even in deployed locations. That attitude about "taking care of the troops" kind of "stunted" my career progression, but when all was said and done, do not regret it. I still get an occassional call or email from some of the guys. And since I had a concurrent career as a Fed, the experiences also helped me .
    Naah, I am sure that half your life did not suck.
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    I have just recently made it one of my goals to take a moose within the next couple of years with the little scout rifle. I have found it not to difficult to get within "slap them in the face" distance. So my plan is to make my shot at less then 25 yards. I will only take a head shot to ensure a clean kill. By the way, it is legal to hunt big game in Alaska with a center fire .22 caliber rifle. Maybe I can pull this off when AKS gets back to Alaska. I have every confidence that the Hornet is up to the task as well as myself.
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    Now that is up close and personal. I do believe I am going to keep my eyes open for a Scout. I am easily "led astray:
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    I have a load that uses a 45gr. Barns XLB, 13grs. Hogdons lil'gun and a small rifle primer. It crono's right at 2700fps in my Ruger 77/22 Hornet and just a tad over 2600fps in my M-6 scout.
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    This thread could be moved to the new "Guns and Ammo" page.
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    Default Not what they are hit with but where they are with it

    [QUOTE=klkak;93036]Now this is what I call getting "survival" food with a "survival" gun!
    A single .22 hornet 45gr. hollow point at 66 yards. She took 2 or 3 steps and droped.


    Being raised an Ozark County farm boy I have had many oppurtunities to witness deer taken with less than ideal caliber/legal firearms. All B.S. aside While not legal here in Missouri...Deer taken with a .22 Magnum don't run any further nor suffer anymore than a deer taken with a Bow... and anything the .22 mag can do the Hornet will do even better still. I have killed 2 whitetails using a 55 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip Handload in .223 Rem.....a little more velocity and noise than the Hornet but I love the accurate, quiet and easy to shoot little Hornet round. And so long as you can track and its legal use it. I have never doubted its ability to take game up to Whitetail size and larger if the need were ever to arise.
    Nice shooting by the way.
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