Bear Stopper?

[ricc9]

Real bear attack. Spray would have done nothing in this case.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnsL7...eature=related

[nell67]

Thanks for the link ricc9,how about heading over to the intro thread and telling us a bit about yourself.

[ricc9]

I live about 3 miles below the Manitoba border. We have a large population of wolves, bears and a small number of big cats coming back.

The spray is an excellent form of protection, but i wouldn't want to put my life on it alone. I often carry a .357 while out in the bush here. My choice in "big" bear country would be a short barrel pump shotgun, first round #4 shot, then slugs.

Many bear encounters can be avoided with a little common sense and education. Sad so many people come to the bush with a "Walt Disney" mentally and think bears are cute and cuddly. Most encounters can be avoided, but there are the ones that you do everything right and the bear just won't back down. In that case, it's your well being or the bear.

The video link I posted above is one of realty, not a Hollywood production, and just how fast a situation can go bad and how much time you have to decide on your options.

The spray works and then it don't, bells work and then they don't. There is one sure answer, all the precautions you take, you may still find yourself with your life in your own hands, each of us will act as we see fit at that time. If your afraid of the woods and the bears, simple, stay out of them....

[trax]

Real bear attack. Spray would have done nothing in this case.

Ummm, those guys were out there to shoot bears right?

[crashdive123]

Yeah - big difference in my book between out wandering in the wilds and having a chance encouter with a bear than having a team and camera crew out hunting them. Don't know anybody that hunts with bear spray.

[klkak]

My choice in "big" bear country would be a short barrel pump shotgun, first round #4 shot, then slugs.

The video link I posted above is one of realty, not a Hollywood production, and just how fast a situation can go bad and how much time you have to decide on your options.

So, Knowing that you have very little time to react to a bear attack. Why would you carry #4 shot as your first round?

Wait, let me guess. It's for a warning shot. Right?

#4 shot is for rabbit hunting not bear protection!!!

My Remington 870 is loaded with Brenneke Black magic slugs only.
My .44 magnum revolver is loaded with Buffalo Bore 305gr. hard cast lead flat point.

If you are going to carry a gun for bear protection then load it with something that will kill a bear. Not piss it off the more a cause someone else to have to go find and put it out of it suffering.

[klkak]

Real bear attack. Spray would have done nothing in this case.
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=LZnsL7...eature=related

You poor poor child. I have stood face to face with a brown bear in full charge not unlike the one in the video and hit it with bear spray. We were separated by the length of my 2006 Arctic Cat 500 ATV and that bear stopped dead in its tracks.

The bear in the video could continued its charge right into the guide and possibly killed him after being shot. I will tell you as I have said before in this very thread. I have had 3 encounters with bears using pepper spray. No one....let me say that again....No one. Not even the bears were killed or injured. I work every day of every summer in bear country. I do carry a firearm but I also carry 3 cans of pepper spray.

[ricc9]

You poor poor child. I have stood face to face with a brown bear in full charge not unlike the one in the video and hit it with bear spray. We were separated by the length of my 2006 Arctic Cat 500 ATV and that bear stopped dead in its tracks.

The bear in the video could continued its charge right into the guide and possibly killed him after being shot. I will tell you as I have said before in this very thread. I have had 3 encounters with bears using pepper spray. No one....let me say that again....No one. Not even the bears were killed or injured. I work every day of every summer in bear country. I do carry a firearm but I also carry 3 cans of pepper spray.

Sorry, I should have put things in a better prospective. The #4 shot was a slip from here and dealing with black bears. You are correct, the bird shot would have little to no effect on a big bear. The spray seems to be the best choice, but I too would keep my S&W 44 mag in hand.

In the video, that sow had only one thing on her mind, she was going to hit that guy, no ands, ifs or buts about it. The fact remains, these large animals are unpredictable and trying to out guess one may cost you your life. Like I said before, the best defence in bear country is your common sense.

Oh, by the way, I'm no "Poor Child", I'm 60 years old and hunted most of this country. I have had only one bear run in, a black that wanted that patch of woods more then I did! In big bear country, it's a whole new ballgame...

[klkak]

Sorry, I should have put things in a better prospective. The #4 shot was a slip from here and dealing with black bears. You are correct, the bird shot would have little to no effect on a big bear. The spray seems to be the best choice, but I too would keep my S&W 44 mag in hand.

In the video, that sow had only one thing on her mind, she was going to hit that guy, no ands, ifs or buts about it. The fact remains, these large animals are unpredictable and trying to out guess one may cost you your life. Like I said before, the best defence in bear country is your common sense.

Oh, by the way, I'm no "Poor Child", I'm 60 years old and hunted most of this country. I have had only one bear run in, a black that wanted that patch of woods more then I did! In big bear country, it's a whole new ballgame...

Forgive me for disrespecting an elder.

[ricc9]

Forgive me for disrespecting an elder.

60 isn't old, it's a state of mind!

My oldest and family lived in Fairbanks a few years ago, were talking about going back up there in the next year or so. Not Fairbanks, I don't do cities! Still alot of planing yet to do.

[klkak]

Alaska is a nice place to visit.

[Sourdough]

I just found my new Charging Brown Bear pistol......Has anyone seen the video of the guy lighting off the 600 NITRO EXPRESS in a Thompson contender pistol.

[crashdive123]

I just found my new Charging Brown Bear pistol......Has anyone seen the video of the guy lighting off the 600 NITRO EXPRESS in a Thompson contender pistol.

I just looked up and watched 2 different videos on youtube. I guess if you can hold onto it it might work.

[Sourdough]

I just looked up and watched 2 different videos on youtube. I guess if you can hold onto it it might work.

Yea, that is it......I was not able to load it onto the forum. I thought it was funny when he lights it off someone yells: FORK and he should have yelled FORE or Duck.

[crashdive123]

For anybody interested, here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZL797pOAZ0

[RBB]

Checked out a couple of the other videos. For the life of me, I can't figure out why some guys want to have their scrawny little wife or girl friend shoot some over-sized pistol and get smacked in the face!

Must make them feel macho.

[ricc9]

Drunks and guns don't mix as well as stupid people.

[higgy]

Thanks for the weapons and ammo info klkak. I'll be buying some spray also.

[higgy]

Is there any kind of scent that you can put on your body that they don't like?

[Sourdough]

Is there any kind of scent that you can put on your body that they don't like?

We use "Moth Balls" around buildings, and equipment, everything we do not want the bears to eat. I use them on Kodiak and Afagnak Island to keep the Brown Bears out of camp.

Note: they are toxic and care should be used, around tents.

I even put moth balls out with the crops, to keep the bears from eating all the oats, barley, grass seed.