P A L

[davef]

A bit of background first:

All of the Canucks on the forum here will be familiar with the Possession and
Acquisitions License required to own firearms.
For those who aren't Canucks, or for those Canucks who don't know of this, in
order to own a firearm in Canada (long rifle), you need to have a Possession and
Acquisitions license. This is only for long rifle (hunting rifle, shotgun, etc). This
doesn't apply to handguns, some semi-autos, full autos, etc...

To get the license you have to take a course, take a test, then (providing you
pass the test), fill out registration forms, bundle them up with a passport
photo, and the registration fees, send them off, wait 45 days, then (if you've
passed a criminal check), get your P.A.L license.

In September of this year, I took the "course", wrote the test (passed with
98%), then sent off my mug photo, the forms and the fees.
4 weeks went by, no response, then 5 weeks, then 6 weeks, and I'm getting
concerned a little.
On Tuesday when I got home, a pleasant surprise was waiting for me in the
mailbox....you guessed it, my PAL came in the mail.


Now I have to figure out what kind of rifle I'm going to buy, then start saving
up for it...oh, and have to start saving up for bullets too....

Just wanted to pass on the happy news to all.
Like the saying goes, I'm certifiably legal now, not legally certifiable...

Cheers all
DaveF

[crashdive123]

Congratulations. There's a gun show in town this weekend. The organizers say that they are expecting more turn out and sales of arms and ammunition this weekend than they have seen in their long history. One of the shops that I visit quite often says they are having trouble keeping up with the demand. The economy may be tough, but people seem to have budgeted for their priorities.

[davef]

I know what you mean Crash. Seems to be that way here as well.
Was reading in the news that the sales of firearms in Canada this past year
was greater than Great Britian, France, and Italy combined...

[Ole WV Coot]

Guns and ammo are a hot item now. Lots of folks are stocking up and used firearms are bringing top dollar. I can't think of anyone I know that doesn't own at the minimum a 22, shotgun & deer rifle. Handguns, used bring more than new ones bought from a gun store. I noticed a big sign in a local gun store to buy em while you could. You can draw your own conclusions for this, just kinda strange for this area.

[Bibow]

i hate those tests. i had to take the youth hunter class thats really bad its eight hours of a really slow talking guy telling me what i already know. btw i'd buy a 30-06

[Riverrat]

Congrats davef, good job and what gun you buy would depend on what you are doing with it...Have fun with it.

[Sourdough]

PAL in America.....????? MAYBE

[crashdive123]

As Ole WV Coot said, draw your own conclusions. IMO that's why sales are up.

[klkak]

Three long guns that are hard to beat are:

Ruger 77/22 .22lr (stainless/laminated) $500-600 new

Ruger 77 Hawkeye 30-06 (stainless/synthetic) $600-700 new

Remington 870 Express magnum 12 guage combo(parkerized/synthetic or wood) Less then $400 new

[Rick]

I think the US Supreme Court settled the question, thank goodness.

[trax]

I just went and wrote the tests when I got my PAL and my hunter's safety (yeah, when I decided to go legal I went all the way) The guy that gave me the test was watching me going through the thing ticking off my answers and he said "You must have really read that manual." I said, "There's a manual?" I got 98% too.

davef, depends on what you're doing, you might want to look for something that's "all round" and of course, can you shoot straight? Think about a 12 guage.

[Tony uk]

Hmmm, The last time i heard P A L, it ment Pain Assisted Learning. Never agen

[crashdive123]

Hmmm, The last time i heard P A L, it ment Pain Assisted Learning. Never agen

Ah - Boot camp.

[marberry]

i took the CFSC (needed for a pal) CRFSC (needed for handguns and bushmasters) Black badge course (IPSC combat shooting certification) Hunters Safety course , Mandatory trapper education , manitoba trapper education , advances hunting skills course, and my CFO STILL wont let me buy even a damned single shot .22 so im reduced to borrowing friends with my MPL. sad state of affairs for canadian youth whos parents dont own firearms.

[davef]

davef, depends on what you're doing, you might want to look for something that's "all round" and of course, can you shoot straight? Think about a 12 guage.

You mean I have to shoot STRAIGHT

I put a Remington 870 12 gauge deer gun away on lay-away. Have $50.00
left to pay on it, then another $50 for cleaning kit, shells, and trigger lock.

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[ryaninmichigan]

A bit of background first:

All of the Canucks on the forum here will be familiar with the Possession and
Acquisitions License required to own firearms.
For those who aren't Canucks, or for those Canucks who don't know of this, in
order to own a firearm in Canada (long rifle), you need to have a Possession and
Acquisitions license. This is only for long rifle (hunting rifle, shotgun, etc). This
doesn't apply to handguns, some semi-autos, full autos, etc...

To get the license you have to take a course, take a test, then (providing you
pass the test), fill out registration forms, bundle them up with a passport
photo, and the registration fees, send them off, wait 45 days, then (if you've
passed a criminal check), get your P.A.L license.

In September of this year, I took the "course", wrote the test (passed with
98%), then sent off my mug photo, the forms and the fees.
4 weeks went by, no response, then 5 weeks, then 6 weeks, and I'm getting
concerned a little.
On Tuesday when I got home, a pleasant surprise was waiting for me in the
mailbox....you guessed it, my PAL came in the mail.


Now I have to figure out what kind of rifle I'm going to buy, then start saving
up for it...oh, and have to start saving up for bullets too....

Just wanted to pass on the happy news to all.
Like the saying goes, I'm certifiably legal now, not legally certifiable...

Cheers all
DaveF

Socialism at its best.

[HOP]

Hunter saftey is good, but what if you didn't want the gun for hunting ?

[red lake]

You don't need Hunter Safety courses for a PAL. You need a Hunters safety course for a hunting license. You need to pass a Firearms Safety course for a PAL.

I just went through it and it is a PITA but still think it is a good thing. Won't stop criminals from getting guns but if everybody followed the rules about storage it would keep a certain percentage of guns off the street.

[HOP]

Red lake I certianly agree that most could use a block of instruction on firearms saftey but know it is a comon practice of the antis to use any excuse to hinder the ownership of firearms. I think the restriction to use of firearms in public until saftey training would be ok but I gues things are diferent in other places. But the restriction of use and possesion has caused consfication on a large scale around the world and always to no good of the public at large.

[davef]

HOP,
I'm not much of a hunter, but I like to fish and got the shotgun primarily for
protection from bears. The good fishing in my area, is unfortunately, also in
bear country, and over the summer and fall, in our area, and north of
us in the Yukon, there have been multiple bear attacks on humans.
I live in the interior of British Columbia, about 500 miles north by northeast
of Seattle.

One fellow on the coast had a bear run down the dock, ignore salmon, jump
into the guys boat and start gnawing on his leg. Turns out the same bear
had attacked another fisherman a couple of days before.

Just last month about 70 miles north west of me, a fellow was out for a walk
with his two dogs. The dogs managed to scare up some cubs. Well momma
bear didn't like that, and attacked the guy. He eventually managed to kill the
bear with a stick (sounds like a tall tale, but is true), but not before having
most of the back of his scalp removed. Took 61 stitches on the back of his
head for him to get out of the hospital.

Not exactly sure about the time frame, but I think it was early fall, a
geologist in the Yukon unfortunately got between a grizzly and her cubs.
He wasn't as lucky.

When I was taking the PAL course, there was a young fellow in the course
who was bow hunting a couple of hundred miles south-east of me, and had
a black bear charge him and take the doe that he just killed. That was why
he was in the course. He wasn't going to go out bow hunting again without
a rifle. In his case he had both bear spray and bear bangers but neither
of them deterred the bear from getting that doe.
And finally, just a couple of weeks ago, another fellow in the area had to kill
another bear. Somehow he managed to surprise the bear while walking on
a trail near his house. He got mauled up pretty good before he was able to
kill it.

Hence my desire for getting a shotgun. From now on, when I go fishing, it
comes with me, and I make sure that it's loaded with slugs.
I don't have much desire to end up as a meal, if you know what I mean.


Cheers.

Hunter saftey is good, but what if you didn't want the gun for hunting ?