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    Quote Originally Posted by trax View Post
    Or Cherokee cavemen?
    Caveokee or Chermen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    Caveokee or Chermen?
    As this method of wood working was first developed before the Croix Magnus,
    60,000 years ago the Cave man or Cherokee were not first to use it.
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    Alrighty then.
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    Very common around here, only it's a big cut nail in a black walnut. Seems black walnut were used a lot for boundary markers and nails were driven in to point to the next marker. I hit one ripping a 3' section about 18" diameter. I ruined a chain but learned to run a detector over all black walnut. Seems like a lot of barbed wire was nailed to trees also. I have seen a rock grown around but sure wasn't a tool.
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    Black walnut is a suitable wood to use thanks for that.
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    Here you go. I actually found a review of the book I had seen as a kid...

    Weapons: A Pictorial history

    Page 16 in the review.

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    Edited to add: This is the book for sure that I had seen as a kid. The edition being sold in the review was published in 1999, but the first edition was published in 1954. The author died in 1973. In my head it had become infused with another similar book on Indians that I would look at every time I had gone to the school library. The other book was "Indians", also by Edwin Tunis. Formative stuff, weapons and bushcraft, I'm still interested.
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    Back when I worked for our township parks department we had a huge limb come down from an ancient tree. About six feet off the ground, the limb simply fell off the trunk. Where it broke off there was a large stone that had become entrapped in the trunk as the tree grew around it. The stone is still visible fused into the trunk. Mac
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    i can see a definite value in this for creating art pieces.
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    So if I start one now.............I'll be 71 when its ready.....I think I'll go to my local hardware store!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pict View Post
    Here you go. I actually found a review of the book I had seen as a kid...

    Weapons: A Pictorial history

    Page 16 in the review.

    Mac

    Edited to add: This is the book for sure that I had seen as a kid. The edition being sold in the review was published in 1999, but the first edition was published in 1954. The author died in 1973. In my head it had become infused with another similar book on Indians that I would look at every time I had gone to the school library. The other book was "Indians", also by Edwin Tunis. Formative stuff, weapons and bushcraft, I'm still interested.
    Thanks for that! exelent! I be sure to add that to my favorits. I know tha tecnology is out there, And I hope to be able to experiment with as much as I can.
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    What would be the best tree to do this with? The first ones that come to mind that are native around here are osage orange, oak, hickory, locust and cedar (to use the cedar I think you would have to wait for the hard wood to grow to the axe head.)
    My interests would be in the metal axe head slid over the tree, the other way seems like it would just take to long.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hard county View Post
    What would be the best tree to do this with? The first ones that come to mind that are native around here are osage orange, oak, hickory, locust and cedar (to use the cedar I think you would have to wait for the hard wood to grow to the axe head.)
    My interests would be in the metal axe head slid over the tree, the other way seems like it would just take to long.
    Rhododendron,laurel, myrtle,hophormbeam ,and possibly many others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erunkiswldrnssurvival View Post
    Once positioned the tree can take as long as 8 to 10 years to grow closed the gaps and produce a perfect work of nature.
    It doesn't take that long (only 2-3 years), and you don't make it the way you described.

    The book Mac linked to describes "making a split into a growing tree limb, then forcing the flint head into it. The tree seeking to heal its wound fill the split tightly around the stone......"

    That makes much more sense, not as colorful a story as yours though.
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    not a kind word to say to erunkiswldrnssurvival, even though he is right.

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    I intend to try every suggested method and examine those results, thanks grey wolf. I am not trying to elaborate,I seek only understanding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsitenha View Post
    not a kind word to say to erunkiswldrnssurvival, even though he is right.
    tsitenha, no malice has ever been intended. I would rather error on the side of historical facts, than folklore or a misinterpretation of how something's done to attain the correct results. What makes this site, is the credibility of the information given by it's members.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Wolf View Post
    tsitenha, no malice has ever been intended. I would rather error on the side of historical facts, than folklore or a misinterpretation of how something's done to attain the correct results. What makes this site, is the credibility of the information given by it's members.
    Thats why we test. well known practices then;are long forgotten now so even things already known must be re-explored instead of remembered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erunkiswldrnssurvival View Post
    Rhododendron,laurel, myrtle,hophormbeam ,and possibly many others.
    Would hickory not be better? Most axe handles are made out of hickory.
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    I imagine the hard part about this method is setting it up in a place that not only has the right type of wood but will also be left alone for several years. I also imagine if done incorrectly that it could very well kill the tree through disease.

    This is something I just might try, though I have no stone axe heads. I leave the country for four years at a time. I could set one of these up and then return and get it in 2014 (provided the Myans were wrong). On a small protected woodlot you could make up some interesting pieces.

    The main drawback to this method is that it will take years to get it right. Mac
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