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    i've thought about this thread alot this week and after reading the best meat thread i thought i'd post this, if/when the crapper explodes or the price just gets to high what would you do, yes i know there are great mighty hunters here(and fishermen and women) but i can recall many lunchtime stories at work of people getting skunked quite a bit, hunting and fishing is different when its done for fun but when you have the added pressure of needing to feed others then how will you do it

    also alot of you live in the city where would you aquire your meat, some of us can go in the back yard but most can't and are you willing to leave your family behind to gather meat.

    i am not a vegetarion but i practice quite often getting my body used to gaining my nutriten else where i was just wondering if any one else had put any serious thought into this?
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    Well, it's the old I gotta do what I gotta do. The city offers a lot of protein. Pigeons, rats, squirrels (in those cute little parks), even hawks and falcons. Lot's of pet stores. You just have to take stock of what resources are available.

    I'm in suburbia so I've got access to squirrels and chipmunks (I hate those danged things!). A lake just down the road for fish (easy to catch they float on top.). Canadian geese out the wazoo and ducks. Deer are all over the place. Dogs don't run loose but I'll bet they'd get scarce if food started to dry up. Cats, oh yeah, cats run loose. They'd be an easy dinner.
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    lots of pet stores? i think you could find nutrients alot easier and cheaper
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    SKS-Mom raises goats and chickens... plenty of meat as long as the livestock survives.

    Then, as discussed in another thread, there are always bugs - the other white meat (not me - hands off the wabbit).

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    I was thinking more in terms of things are really bad so you sort of pocket what you need. Not purchasing them.

    Plenty of protein available without meat as well. I keep a lot beans of various types stocked as well as peanut butter. So you could get by without meat if you had to.

    But I do have a LOT of spam, kippers and sardines on hand. A LOT of spam.
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    Living a few miles from the ocean and in a city nicknamed "The River City" there is lots of seafood available. Fairly large farming community in the area. Back in college I did the vegetarian thing for about a year ---- for no particular reason that I can recall. So surviving without meat really shouldn't be a problem. There are lots of protien sources available.
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    For those in the country there is also the old-west tradition of cattle rustling.

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    Which brings to mind another old-west tradition of hanging.
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    And the old west tradition of branding. Ouch!!
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    Yea, that occurred to me.

    My hope actually would be to trade once in a while with farmer Joe for a slice o' beef.

    Similar risk of getting shot in the city with "shopping on account" for meat and other goods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teotwawki View Post
    Yea, that occurred to me.

    My hope actually would be to trade once in a while with farmer Joe for a slice o' beef.

    Similar risk of getting shot in the city with "shopping on account" for meat and other goods.
    what would you trade a farmer?
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    We're not supposed to eat rotting or decomposing meat, so I guess the Zombies are out of the question.
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    We almost do it now. We don't buy steak, maybe every other week we venture to Ryans.

    When I do eat steak, I always get it medium so the vitamins and minerals are not cooked out, I also chew on the fat. Yeh, gross but I like the taste.

    I could live on pasta.

    I would eat fish every meal if I could. Problem is it's so expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RangerXanatos View Post
    We're not supposed to eat rotting or decomposing meat, so I guess the Zombies are out of the question.
    Really? Dam**t....(letting zombie out of snare "off ya go now, run!")
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    I grabbed a few Corona today and hit the bush on my property without a motorized vehicle to check on my cattle. Within 5-20 minutes I spotted 8 deer, two moose with their youngens and a badger (out in the open) prowling a fence line. Gobs of wild game.

    I have to get out and walk the area more often....very enjoyable.

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    Dude, the city is one huge meat market. You just have to get past that whole notion that cannibalism is wrong. I mean, if a real true SHTF scenario, and you're STARVING, I mean, the rule of three's is gonna cash your paycheck if you don't eat starving, some enterprising idiot will inevitably present themselves as food trying to find some for themself.

    Now that we have the EXTREME survival scenario covered, in a less morbid environment, I have lived for a few years as a pesco-vegetarian. For no other reason than red meat is to expensive and I got REALLY tired of chicken and turkey. Could I go without the sea creatures to survive? If I absolutely had to, sure, but, why? They're so plentiful no matter where you're at, unless the water is to contaminated (fort Worth).
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    I don't eat store-bought meat to begin with and have spent years in the past eating no meat at all, so no big loss...what would hurt really bad would be having to cut chocolate, pasta and cereal out of my diet.
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    WW- making pasta is a bit time consuming, but not that hard. A recepie from cooks.com follows. (now chocolate....still working on that)

    HOMEMADE EGG PASTA (NOODLES)

    2 c. unbleached flour
    2 tbsp. olive oil
    2 eggs
    Water

    1. Put the flour into a large mixing bowl; make a well in the center, add the eggs, olive oil, and about two tablespoons of water. Mix ingredients into each other with a fork until the eggs are no longer liquid. Use fingertips or hands to incorporate the rest of the flour; moisten with more water if necessary, (the exact amount of water depends upon the size of the eggs and the absorbency of the flour), the dough should be fairly firm and somewhat dry.

    2. Knead the dough on a lightly floured surface for about 15 minutes, or until smooth and elastic.

    3. Form into a ball, place under an inverted bowl and let sit for at least 30 minutes, (this will help the dough to stretch when rolling).

    4. To roll: Divide the dough in half; leave one half underneath the bowl. Roll out on a slightly floured surface, first in one direction, then in the other to form a rectangle. Dividing again in half will make the rolling easier when the sheet becomes large; keep the half not being rolled well floured and under a dish towel, or under the bowl, to prevent drying. When the sheet is almost translucent, it is ready to be cut.

    5. To cut: Dust the sheets with flour to prevent any sticking. Use only one sheet at a time, keeping the others covered. Roll the dusted sheet loosely from the edge like a jelly roll. With a sharp knife cut the roll into thin slices, (1/2 inch for tagliatele - 1/4 inch for fettuccine). Unroll each noodle carefully, and place flat on a dish towel or hang over a broom stick suspended between two chairs.

    6. These may be cooked immediately, (plenty of boiling water with a little oil added to prevent sticking), or dried for future use, (dried flat or over broom stick). Serve with sauce, or olive oil and grated Parmesan
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    goo responses people, most of us here are somewhat prepared but there are our guests and new folks that will read this, i am just asking them to sit and think, most of going meatless is about the mental game, i look at my dinner plate and tink wheres the beef? can't have food w/o meat but last sunday we had tomato cheese and avacado sandwhiches on fresh dinner rools with watermelon and it was quite filling, probably one of the reasons allan beauchamp my insructor says always have multi vitamins around.
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    Wareagle - interesting that you posted this when you did. Saw a story on the local news this morning that made me think of this thread. It was about saving money. The guest talked about smaller portions, supplimenting with other protiens like beans, cheaper cuts and how to prepare them.
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