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    Quote Originally Posted by jim Glass View Post
    The Ruger Yukon showed up a day early at Walmart so I drove to Lake Geneva Wisconsin to pick it up. I was rather impressed with the Yukon when I unboxed it. Nicely finished stock the barrel and receiver looks like a serious gun. Most pellet guns I have seen are rather small and light weight like a kids gun. The Yukon is rather heavy and bulky.

    Before firing I ran several cleaning patches down the barrel to remove the packing grease. The final patch was soaked in gun oil.

    I test fired inside my shop (since it is still winter here) at a distance of 33 feet. Using the iron sights and right out of the box it was only an inch off from "0". Must have fired 25, 14 gr, Ruger pellets last night. It is really accurate and penetrated a 3/4" pine board. For a pellet gun it has a nice set of iron sights, adjustable for windage and elevation. It came with a scope but haven't looked at it yet, I like the iron sights.

    When done shooting I ran a couple of cleaning patches down the barrel. Really dirty cleaning patches. This pellet gun is dirtier than a powder burning gun. When finished I discharged the pellet gun. The owner manual recommends the pellet gun not be stored in a loaded state.

    More on the Ruger Yukon later
    Very cool!
    The heavier Spring rifles are more accurate from what I understand.
    Sounds pretty powerful.
    The more you shoot the air rifle the more accurate it will get, see how it will preform after 500 pellets through it
    I also Like iron sights, but wanted a scope for mine.
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    Jim I would leave the iron sights as primary equipment on that Yukon.

    The barrel cocking springer rifles use a ball detent to hold the barrel in position and I have always suspected that as the rifle wears the gun will not return to battery at the same exact spot.

    The iron sights are on the barrel so it will not affect them.

    The scope is on the receiver and separate from the barrel. any change in position from wear to a burr of steel on the surfaces to a piece of lead chip on the breech-face will throw the scope off.

    Besides, pellet rifles are like smoothbore shotguns with slugs, the practical range is so close the scope is not really needed, even by us old guys.


    HEY ANTHONY,

    how does that compressed gas rifle act when the gas is getting low?

    Does it lose power gradually on the last few shots, dump the partial charge at the last full power round, or just refuse to fire if the pressure is low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    Jim I would leave the iron sights as primary equipment on that Yukon.

    The barrel cocking springer rifles use a ball detent to hold the barrel in position and I have always suspected that as the rifle wears the gun will not return to battery at the same exact spot.

    The iron sights are on the barrel so it will not affect them.

    The scope is on the receiver and separate from the barrel. any change in position from wear to a burr of steel on the surfaces to a piece of lead chip on the breech-face will throw the scope off.

    Besides, pellet rifles are like smoothbore shotguns with slugs, the practical range is so close the scope is not really needed, even by us old guys.
    I was thinking the same exact thing.

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    What the Ruger Yukon looks like, less the scope, and how the pellet rifle shot right out of the box. This was a 33 foot shooting range inside my shop.
    After some tweaking it shoots even better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    Jim I would leave the iron sights as primary equipment on that Yukon.

    The barrel cocking springer rifles use a ball detent to hold the barrel in position and I have always suspected that as the rifle wears the gun will not return to battery at the same exact spot.

    The iron sights are on the barrel so it will not affect them.

    The scope is on the receiver and separate from the barrel. any change in position from wear to a burr of steel on the surfaces to a piece of lead chip on the breech-face will throw the scope off.

    Besides, pellet rifles are like smoothbore shotguns with slugs, the practical range is so close the scope is not really needed, even by us old guys.


    HEY ANTHONY,

    how does that compressed gas rifle act when the gas is getting low?

    Does it lose power gradually on the last few shots, dump the partial charge at the last full power round, or just refuse to fire if the pressure is low?
    I havent reached this point yet, so cant say. And also Have Changed the co2 bottle
    The bottle gets about 400 shots (hopefully all full powered, then stop) I will only know once I have gotten there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim Glass View Post
    What the Ruger Yukon looks like, less the scope, and how the pellet rifle shot right out of the box. This was a 33 foot shooting range inside my shop.
    After some tweaking it shoots even better.
    I like the look of this rifle.
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    Here is a new video I made of my rifle with all the issues sorted
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    Default what can the Ruger Yukon do?

    Lousy day here in Northern Illinois so decided to test out the power of the Ruger Yukon can do. I selected different materials and thicknesses to see what the Yukon can penetrate. A bean can has been mentioned as a bench mark
    for air gun capability. Not sure what the thickness is of an old bean can.

    First test was .039 6061 aluminum. Huge dent but no penetration.

    Second test was .024 steel sheet. Huge dent but no penetration

    Third test was .015 shim stock with some hardness. Penetration

    Fourth test was .014 thick steel roof edging. Penetration of one thickness

    Fifth test was two thicknesses of the .014 thick roof edging. Penetration through one thickness but not the second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim Glass View Post
    Lousy day here in Northern Illinois so decided to test out the power of the Ruger Yukon can do. I selected different materials and thicknesses to see what the Yukon can penetrate. A bean can has been mentioned as a bench mark
    for air gun capability. Not sure what the thickness is of an old bean can.

    First test was .039 6061 aluminum. Huge dent but no penetration.

    Second test was .024 steel sheet. Huge dent but no penetration

    Third test was .015 shim stock with some hardness. Penetration

    Fourth test was .014 thick steel roof edging. Penetration of one thickness

    Fifth test was two thicknesses of the .014 thick roof edging. Penetration through one thickness but not the second.
    Yeah A tin can that usually hold fruit or jams..
    I am using a tin bean can and penetration through both sides from about 30meters... havent tried further.
    Not sure how it compares to roof edging,
    But likely a bit thinner than that.
    But the thickness of a tin can used in food industry can be between 0.16 to 0.30 mm (thats millimeters)
    Assuming .39 = 1mm

    ummm 0.014 = .3mm More or less

    So yeah the last one you testing on would be Right, but That would be on the really thick side of a Tin can.
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    Your 7 day safari looked like a lot of fun. I have never seen country side like that before.

    .3mm X .03937 = .0118"
    .16mm X .03937= .0063"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim Glass View Post
    Your 7 day safari looked like a lot of fun. I have never seen country side like that before.

    .3mm X .03937 = .0118"
    .16mm X .03937= .0063"
    Thanks Its absolutely beautiful up that side..
    Southern Africa has some really nice Bush

    Yeah I see your calculation.. hence I said more or less tin can thickness..
    Some times I dont always understand Imperial.... but sometimes I do with things like pounds and feet, miles..
    but I dont always look at fractions of an inch so that one I am not always a fay with.
    I really like your rifle though its awesome
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    Anthony, 9 out of 10 Americans do not understand fractions of an inch!

    Oddly enough, it is not the population over here that prevents full conversion to metric (we measure and use math as little as possible anyway), but the engineering community, since we already have so much tooling and infrastructure built in Imperial.

    Just keep shooting, the groups are the same size no matter what system you use to measure them.

    Want a really realistic target? Try a plastic water bottle about the size of the game you are hunting. Most small game is thin skinned and 80% water. If the pellet will pass through one side, cross the water and exit the other side it will be plenty strong for small game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    Anthony, 9 out of 10 Americans do not understand fractions of an inch!

    Oddly enough, it is not the population over here that prevents full conversion to metric (we measure and use math as little as possible anyway), but the engineering community, since we already have so much tooling and infrastructure built in Imperial.

    Just keep shooting, the groups are the same size no matter what system you use to measure them.

    Want a really realistic target? Try a plastic water bottle about the size of the game you are hunting. Most small game is thin skinned and 80% water. If the pellet will pass through one side, cross the water and exit the other side it will be plenty strong for small game.
    I see. Yeah I should actually try that..
    Updated Tried that from about 10m..
    goes through both side of a filled up bottle not much issue.
    hahhah I also Shot a match from about 15m
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    Don't you b%^*#s know that they link neat videos to your pop-ups that show people killing rats with those up-market BB guns!

    If you do a You-tube search of reviews on the Yukon they go on forever. It is worse than AR builds!

    I wound up watching those things for the whole day and have barely gotten anything done.

    Of course it is pouring rain so I would have accomplished nothing anyway so its no big loss.

    Forget the cheap scope Jim, switch the night vision scope to your Yukon! Farmers all over the mid-west are killing hundreds of rats each night around those feed lots and I bet getting permission to kill rats with an air rifle is a lot easier than getting hunting permission out of the modern farmers. You can probably hunt every night all Summer.

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    What a brilliant idea!!!!! It will be a way to keep my shooting skills honed until I get back to Florida even though black bird season is well underway here in Northern Illinois.

    This is what I have been doing to stay in practice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZxAQGcWvQ

    Yes, I have to much time on my hands!!! Truthfully this thing is a lot of fun.

    Another video, at the stone quarry

    https://youtu.be/tSX_ImZpxfQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim Glass View Post
    What a brilliant idea!!!!! It will be a way to keep my shooting skills honed until I get back to Florida even though black bird season is well underway here in Northern Illinois.

    This is what I have been doing to stay in practice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZxAQGcWvQ

    Yes, I have to much time on my hands!!! Truthfully this thing is a lot of fun.

    Another video, at the stone quarry

    https://youtu.be/tSX_ImZpxfQ
    hahahah thats an excellent idea... hahahaha The one looks like BatPig flying around.
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    You guys do not realize that every year Cincinnati has a marathon.

    It is called The Flying Pig!

    For many years there has been an Olympic event shot with air rifles and also rimfire rifles called the "running boar". It is a very interesting event. It was dropped after the 2004 games and replaced with a pop-up target event. Probably due to the expense of building the moving target range.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISSF_1...running_target

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    I plan to use my AR-15 on this target machine. I can fill those pig decoys with warm water and shoot at them at night using my thermo imaging scope at the stone quarry. Last weekend I used a Marlin .22LR with a scope and it was very effective. I also tried the 9mm AR-15 with iron sights, not as many hits as the 22LR.

    Although, I can use my air rifles in my own back yard to shoot the moving pigs. Lots of hits with a pellet gun actually.

    When I think I'm getting real good I crank up the speed and the learning process starts over.

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    I need to go back through the archives and the gun room and determine just how much money I have spent connected directly to threads in this firearms forum!

    You guys are an expensive bunch to hang out with!

    Now I wait for the brown truck once more, bringing my first gun mounted night vision device.

    I have had others, but never one to mount directly on the firearm.

    I see dead rats in my future!

    Funny I have not found this sport before, since my screen name comes from my old recreational activity of shooting them at the dump. But that was in daylight, and with .38 wad-cutters.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrZK6Ii3f2w
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    Awe man, I'm hooked already. Shooting rats is like shooting little hogs. What time of night do rats come out? Do all farms have rats or farms with live stock?

    Tell us more about your night vision device. Does it take pictures?

    I know what you mean about this forum being expensive. Three years ago I didn't know what an AR-15 was, now I have 3 of them because of this forum. I never dreamed I would own a Night vision scope or a Thermo imaging scope, now I have one of each. But,,,,,I really enjoy this stuff. Instead of feeling older, I feel like I'm regressing.

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