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    Link is re-directing me to try and sell something.
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    Getting same redirect here. It wasn't doing that earlier this morning though. Went right to story Hunter linked.
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    There is a blue bar on the advert that says "Continue to USA Today". Click that and it will take you to the article.

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    I getting real hard to go directly to the story....without clickbait....
    Will see if I can fine the story elsewhere....

    Another reason to ban evil guns....Sheeeesh.

    Try this link....
    https://nypost.com/2017/11/16/califo...-illegal-guns/


    How can they be illegal when you are allowed to build them.....?.
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    Lots of misinterpretation of facts in that article as well as ambiguous wording.

    Guns used for illegal purposes are not necessarily "illegal guns". Also a firearm not meeting the California standards would be "illegal" in California but legal to own in most other states.

    Due to the presence of a restraining order a set of fingernail clippers in his possession would have been an "illegal weapon".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    Lots of misinterpretation of facts in that article as well as ambiguous wording.

    Guns used for illegal purposes are not necessarily "illegal guns". Also a firearm not meeting the California standards would be "illegal" in California but legal to own in most other states.

    Due to the presence of a restraining order a set of fingernail clippers in his possession would have been an "illegal weapon".
    That pretty much what I got out of that, too. Another journalistic drive-by.
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    Sadly seems the madness is still out there....
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    Kinda shows how gun control doesn't work. Illegal to build your own guns must be a California rule because I have made a bunch of guns, some of them from scratch. I will be breaking the law selling guns without serial numbers not making or having them.

    I wonder where this shooter bought the lower receivers for the ARs? I wonder if the shooter had the ability to machine his own receivers? That information is not well known.

    How long will it be before the politicians try to outlaw the tools to build guns, like my machine shop?

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    They already have passed controls on the tooling Jim.

    It is illegal to borrow, loan, or rent out tooling to produce a finished frame. No money has to pass hands, just the loan of use of the tools or allowing someone to come into your shop and use you tooling is illegal.

    This is to stop the gatherings once called "build parties" where several people rented a machine shop and made their rifles at the same time. It is especially needed when dealing with the AK, since they require several tools not many people possess in their garage tool box.

    If one person buys those machines himself he will never recoop his expenses on only building one rifle.

    Even a modification to a firearm is considered "Manufacture" in some situations.

    In the case of this California based crime, the subject might not have "made" anything. If he assembled an AR without the permanently fixed magazine, or with a pistol grip, or changed the approved barrel for a threaded one, he "made" an illegal weapon. If he disabled or changed those features on a California approved rifle he "Made" an illegal weapon.

    Have you seen what a California compliant AR looks like now?

    https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...+STK+10R+%2ACA

    If the handgun he was carrying was not on the California "approved firearm" list he had an illegal weapon.

    If he had lead core ammo he had illegal bullets.

    I am not trying to protect or defend the actions of this individual but just to show that if y write enough laws you can make any situation sound much more dramatic than it actually is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    Have you seen what a California compliant AR looks like now?

    https://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...+STK+10R+%2ACA

    If the handgun he was carrying was not on the California "approved firearm" list he had an illegal weapon.

    If he had lead core ammo he had illegal bullets.

    I am not trying to protect or defend the actions of this individual but just to show that if y write enough laws you can make any situation sound much more dramatic than it actually is.
    The California compliant AR is nothing short of butt ugly

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    Lots of misinterpretation of facts in that article as well as ambiguous wording.

    Guns used for illegal purposes are not necessarily "illegal guns". Also a firearm not meeting the California standards would be "illegal" in California but legal to own in most other states.

    Due to the presence of a restraining order a set of fingernail clippers in his possession would have been an "illegal weapon".
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    California has some of the most restrictive gun control law.
    It is being reported that Kevin Janson Neal, the suspect in the case of the horrific Rancho Tehama School shooting is the same man who was arrested earlier this year for an assault against an elderly person that resulted in likely “great bodily injury.”

    From the police logs on February 2, 2017:

    Kevin Janson Neal: 43, of Corning was arrested Tuesday in the 6900 block of Bobcat Lane in Rancho Tehama. He was booked into Tehama County Jail on the charges of assault with deadly weapon not firearm or force, great bodily injury likely, battery on person, crime against elder or dependent adult, discharge firearm with gross negligence and false imprisonment with violence. Bail was $160,000.

    His bail was set at $160,000. Yet he was free and armed less than a year after his vile crime to terrorize his neighbors and to allegedly murder yet-unnamed innocent people and selected randomly an elementary school.
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    Sadly in California having a homemade gun is more evil than killing people.

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