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    Question California desert survival areas?

    My wilderness survival class was hoping to go to the desert this year. We were wondering if there were any good places in california to practice desert survival? An area with at least one permanent water source is required by the class.


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    When this year?

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    Dig a hole and cover yourself...
    Serious - they had 810 earthquakes and a few or some were undetectable last month... Some bright *** discovered to sacrifice 72 virgins at the moment of the eclipse would stop the slide into the Pacific and the gods would be pleased. They had a hard time finding virgins in California, So the disaster will happen shortly.



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    Hunter63 Saying Hey and Welcome...From Wisconsin.
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    What desert were you thinking about?
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    If you have a permanent water source are you really in survival mode or just camping in a hot place?
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    29 palms get the best survival training they will let you stay for 4 years and pay you to do so if you can make it past the 13 weeks of pre training in South Carolina

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    Surely the head instructors, and more experienced higher guys would go through there prior for scouting ?
    I mean we always do before deciding to attempt "surviving" an area for days. weeks.

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    Think about it Anthony.

    The OP just joined. This is a first post.

    The leader or the group does not have enough experience to know of a possible training site or the ability to locate a site on their own.

    Plus they are in California and they do not know where the desert is located, when half of California is desert or Savannah shrub getting less than 10 inches of rain per year.

    There are a dozen different State and Federal parks located in the California desert or just across the borders in Nevada or Arizona.

    More then 1/2 the total land mass in that area is owned by the government and managed by the Forest Service or the Bureau of Land Management. You can pay a $20 fee, find a box canyon and park an RV in the desert and use it for a get away for a year.

    I know that much and I live in Kentucky, 2500 miles away, and took a vacation to the Sonora Desert in Arizona a few years back. We checked out several desert parks and explored some beautiful desert country.

    Apparently they never considered typing in California, Nevada or Arizona desert parks or desert camping.

    http://www.visitcalifornia.com/ca/fe...e-desert-parks

    I really do not want to go camping with this group. I think they might be connected to the two people we discussed a couple of weeks ago.

    http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...-In-The-Desert
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    Been singing this



    https://youtu.be/Tm4BrZjY_Sg
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    I lived in Los Angeles for 36 years and I and several friends went out into the various desert areas near there, the Mojave, Death Valley, even the high, remote desert of northern Calif., Lassen County, bordering the Nevada state line .I assure the o.p. that "permanent" water resources are very few and far between. We always took water -- and a whole lot of it -- with us. We did not go to "survive," but to explore the great American desert areas. Very interesting and fun so long as you're prepared, know what you're doing, and don't act foolish.

    I suggest to the o.p. he do a good bit of research before heading out into the desert to "survive."

    Just my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyratshooter View Post
    Think about it Anthony.

    The OP just joined. This is a first post.

    The leader or the group does not have enough experience to know of a possible training site or the ability to locate a site on their own.

    Plus they are in California and they do not know where the desert is located, when half of California is desert or Savannah shrub getting less than 10 inches of rain per year.

    There are a dozen different State and Federal parks located in the California desert or just across the borders in Nevada or Arizona.

    More then 1/2 the total land mass in that area is owned by the government and managed by the Forest Service or the Bureau of Land Management. You can pay a $20 fee, find a box canyon and park an RV in the desert and use it for a get away for a year.

    I know that much and I live in Kentucky, 2500 miles away, and took a vacation to the Sonora Desert in Arizona a few years back. We checked out several desert parks and explored some beautiful desert country.

    Apparently they never considered typing in California, Nevada or Arizona desert parks or desert camping.

    http://www.visitcalifornia.com/ca/fe...e-desert-parks

    I really do not want to go camping with this group. I think they might be connected to the two people we discussed a couple of weeks ago.

    http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...-In-The-Desert
    Clearly Logic does not apply to the OP.. I dont even live in the US or know it at all.. and have a bit more logic than that...
    Damn its like really that easy? wow... But I am sure if they googled (researched it themself) they would not need to ask silly questions.
    Their "school" is just Silly and sub par. goodness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seniorman View Post
    I lived in Los Angeles for 36 years and I and several friends went out into the various desert areas near there, the Mojave, Death Valley, even the high, remote desert of northern Calif., Lassen County, bordering the Nevada state line .I assure the o.p. that "permanent" water resources are very few and far between. We always took water -- and a whole lot of it -- with us. We did not go to "survive," but to explore the great American desert areas. Very interesting and fun so long as you're prepared, know what you're doing, and don't act foolish.

    I suggest to the o.p. he do a good bit of research before heading out into the desert to "survive."

    Just my opinion.

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    Desert IMPLIES little to no water and or rain fall.
    Its logic.

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    I have lived in the eastern Mojave Desert for 30 years and exploring,camping.hunting for 50+ years, I know of about 15" permanent " year round water sources and you could go visit any one of them right now and they might be dry or just soggy soil, I know the Mojave river runs above ground in a few places the rest of the time its under ground. the point being water is limited , you should do some research on line, there are wilderness guides to the Mojave that have GPS locations of water sources most will be in the Mojave National Preserve or National Monument area and most places will be a fee or permit area and may even limit the size of your group, have fun be careful but I think it would be best to take your water with you ( as a backup ) just my opinion

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    Maybe dust devil.

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    Now that right there is funny. Thanks for the chuckle.

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    In sub-Sahara Africa, in our deserts..
    The Khoi-san Bushmen Had a very interesting, yet smart way of Finding The hidden Water sources...
    What they used to do is Catch a monkey
    Tie the monkey to a tree, and feed him salt, and keep that monkey there for a few days..
    Then they would release him, and follow the monkey (as his 1st instinct was to run straight to water from dehydration)

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    It would be just my luck to capture the one monkey that would want revenge the moment I released him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonyraison View Post
    In sub-Sahara Africa, in our deserts..
    The Khoi-san Bushmen Had a very interesting, yet smart way of Finding The hidden Water sources...
    What they used to do is Catch a monkey
    Tie the monkey to a tree, and feed him salt, and keep that monkey there for a few days..
    Then they would release him, and follow the monkey (as his 1st instinct was to run straight to water from dehydration)


    Are you pulling our leg? (I'l thinking maybe?).......
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