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    Hello everyone!
    I'm not sure if you remember me: I used to post about some adventures of mine, be it survival-related, or simple travel-related.
    I just came back from a 2-years-long hitchhiking trip from Montreal to Alaska, down to Argentina, and back up to Ecuador. Absolutely wonderful.

    Anyways, every winter that I am back home, in Montreal, I tend to invite a bunch of friends to come and practice some survival skills further up north in Quebec.
    This will be the 5th season we do it. Some have showed up almost every year, which is nice.

    I am looking forward to gathering some ideas from you.
    Here are some of the activities we used to do:
    - Build a primitive shelter to spend a night in (that is a requisite to showing to those events). We have done Lean-to's, A-frames, and quimzys, so far. We highly enjoy doing the quimzys, but it'd be nice to have a variant. I've been thinking about a raised-floor wooden shelter (the main thing is trying to keep off the ground during the night... and Fir Branches, from my experience, aren't exactly enough).
    - Start a fire with certain extra restrictions added in (only with a magnesium bar, bow-drill, 5 matches, etc.)
    - Winter fishing through a hole on the frozen lake
    - Primitive snowshoe making
    - Setting up traps in the woods

    And non-survival related activities such as hockey on the lake, snowball fights, and what not.

    Anyways... any shelter or fire related propositions? Or anything else?

    Thank you!


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    Good to see you back Payne. While it may take a little longer - at tepee or yurt might be a fun project for your group.
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    If your snow is right...an igloo?

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    Ahh, your first two replies are from guys in Florida!

    The ones of us up here in snow country are all huddles around the fire under some form of roof.

    you might look into a Moors Kochenski type "super shelter", or even the plastic house done by some Russian guy a few years back.

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    LOL. Yeah yeah Kyrat. Doncha know most everybody in FL is from up north.

    ...I've never built an igloo before though...

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    Well, Good to see you made it....has been a while, always kind of wondered how you were fairing.

    Would interested to hear what you used for shelters in your travels?

    The shelters you are planning...semi permanent? ...or just a night or two?.....tarps, tents.... natural materials available?...pine/fir/dead falls?

    Tipis or Wikiup's seem to me the best bet as done properly are able to have a central fire pit.....and can be natural materials...(takes a long time to gather covering material.
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    I have had 3 different tents throughout my travels:

    1) MEC Camper-2
    2) MSR Hubba-Hubba
    3) MARMOT (can't remember which one)

    All of them are 2-persons tent, 3-seasons.
    #1 would often have its poles or zippers break quickly, but was cheap.
    #2 was absolutely amazing. Very compact and lightweight. 2 doors. Great pole-design and fastest set-up I've seen for a tent. After a year and a half enduring the Latin American harsh sun, though, it lost a bit of its waterproofness. Which is when someone ended up destroying, and that's where #3 comes in.
    #3 was expensive for not such a good quality, but was somewhat the best choice available to me in Ecuador. Weirder design. Weird waterproof cover measurements that make it so that you actually need to use the strings and what not to keep the water from coming in (the MSR would be absolutely fine without any extra work to prevent water from getting inside).

    The Hubba-Hubba is the absolute best tent I have ever stumbled upon. Highly recommended. Definitely worth the price if you plan on living inside it, as I did.

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    The shelters we'll build are meant for max 2 nights.
    Material-wise, we're talking birch and fir majorly. And some other tree with a nice leaf that doesn't fall off easily in the winter, burns very well, and is somewhat waterproof so even though it's covered in ice, it will pick up in flames very nicely. I can't remember the name of that tree, though.

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    +1 on the Hubba Hubba.

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    If you are not bringing a tarp, I think I would stay with a simple lean two...with off ground platform.
    Moors Kochenski type "super shelter seems to be a lot of work and materials....as well as tarps.....more suited to long term stay.
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    Give each one an "injury" they must deal with such as broken fingers (can only use one hand), broken arm, injured back. Those would be real life scenarios that anyone of us might have to deal with. Try starting a fire with only one hand if all you have are matches or knife and fero rod. Splint your own arm then perform some task. You get the idea.

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    How about a field expedient sauna? Any good survivalist needs to know how to deal with the grueling ordeal of 100+ degree steamy temperatures in mid-winter.

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    I like the last two ideas. Thank you!

    I also added "Change mushroom hunting" as an activity since there is a decent amount of birch trees around.

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    If snow allows, a snow drift cave. I've never tried one but I'm sure it would work out.

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    I dont know anything about snow survival, hahah it doesn't really snow here in Southern africa, and if it does its in very remote parts maybe a foot of it at most.
    However I have some suggestions for other activities on your list;

    * fire making with bow drill, using all natural materials ,even for the string, and not using a knife, just stone tools to make it - Seems very challenging.
    *run a simulated search and rescue ; assign teams, and pick some one to have an injury, then you must search for him/her.. and assess situation, and treat wounds with what you have, i.e broken leg, possible spine damage,etc (whatever you want) maybe you would even need them too build a stretcher?
    * split people in teams, get them to make signal fires, and see which team gets their signal fire going first, ie which was light 1st and was smoking enough to draw attention.

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