coffee or smokes post shtf?

[hunter63]

I have never tried washing down chew with bourbon.

Don't think I am going too either.

They are cutting tobacco in my neighborhood this week. Wagon load after wagon load heading to the barns ad the fields left as raggedy as one can imagine. There are enough leaves left hanging on the stalks to keep half the smokers in the nation happy for a long time.

I am pretty sure a couple of leaves off most of these big Burley stalks would make a whole carton of smokes.

Was turkey hunting several (many?) years ago....my walk took passed a tobacco barn........kinda walked thru it both doors were open....stopped a picked up a couple of good sized pieces of leaves....
Later broke it up, was very dry...and tried smoking it in a pipe.....and I was a smoker at the time......HOLY CRAP...was that strong.

Tossed it.

[old2531]

if realy wooried about smokes store seeds and learn how to grow tobacco plants

[hunter63]

Yeah....good advice....
I quit smoking...had to.... so it's just the coffee I will worry about.

[alaskabushman]

I don't drink coffee.
I don't smoke.
I don't chew.
I don't drink alcohol...well, a glass of wine with the wife occasionally.

No. I'm not Mormon.

I do enjoy a cup of tea in the mornings, but I'm pretty well stocked on that. We also have some good substitutes in my area, so I'm good.

[kyratshooter]

I quit doing all that stuff too.

Worst ten minutes of my life!

[Zachary Fowler]

Definitely coffee. I haven't smoked for years but even if I did I rather have coffee. And when I was out there in Patagonia for the alone show boy do I miss my coffee every morning.

[hunter63]

Definitely coffee. I haven't smoked for years but even if I did I rather have coffee. And when I was out there in Patagonia for the alone show boy do I miss my coffee every morning.

I bet it was......

Just goes to show that the least amount of things you are not addictive to...the better off you are....of course not near as satisfying.

[kyratshooter]

OK now if we trim our calorie intake, suppress all our cravings, abandon technology, live a green planet lifestyle and reduce our carbon footprint....

How do we know when a survival situation has arrived?

[hunter63]

When all the cell phones die...........
Wandering hoards or "Zombies" standing around swiping left on a dead smart phone....no one to talk to give directions or even know where they are.....

[kyratshooter]

When all the cell phones die...........
Wandering hoards or "Zombies" standing around swiping left on a dead smart phone....no one to talk to give directions or even know where they are.....

IT'S LIKE THAT NOW!

OMG the end has come!

[Rick]

OK now if we trim our calorie intake, suppress all our cravings, abandon technology, live a green planet lifestyle and reduce our carbon footprint....

How do we know when a survival situation has arrived?

I think you just described it.

[hunter63]

Well, the guy begging at the airport said it was "Near"...so I don't know why he needed money?

[JohnPombrio]

That is easy. The two things that are better than gold if you are in a screwed up place are cigarettes and hard liquor. I don't smoke or drink but if I see a crunch coming, I will stock up. The end of WW2 had a good chunk of Germany using American cigarettes as barter and booze is always a sure bet. And earplugs as I don't like the sound of gunshots and screaming very much.

[hunter63]

Hunter63 saying Hey and Welcome.....
There is an intro section to say Hello at:
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That is easy. The two things that are better than gold if you are in a screwed up place are cigarettes and hard liquor. I don't smoke or drink but if I see a crunch coming, I will stock up. The end of WW2 had a good chunk of Germany using American cigarettes as barter and booze is always a sure bet. And earplugs as I don't like the sound of gunshots and screaming very much.

You may be correct, but I'm not old enough to know what happened after WWII.

Booze may be your best bet as a trading item as it has many uses.... and the shelf life is much longer than cigarettes, that would have to be consumed rather quickly.
I can attest that a year old, sealed pack of smokes, left in a hunting coat for a year, was pretty raspy.....

[cow_rancher]

if realy wooried about smokes store seeds and learn how to grow tobacco plants

Yeah I started that a couple of years ago, with about 6 varieties from Ebay, I planted Virginia Gold and Havana Gold (thinking about rolling cigars), they were both easy to grow, now how do I get rid of them, the volunteers come up all over the place, they just need water, they grow about 7 feet high. Don't believe it when you hear that the tomato worm is the only thing that attacks them, grasshoppers will go through them pretty quick. I also have 15 coffee plants growing inside, probably just enough beans to say I grew coffee.

Rancher