I have used my Catoma down to -20. That's pretty wintery. Sure, it won't do Everest basecamp, but that's just an absurd argument you threw out there to cover the other absurd argument you posted before that.
I take the extra weight because I do this to practice survival in the wilderness. Me and my camping friends intentionally camp in the worst weather, we seek it out so we can learn all we can about surviving in those elements. I don;t mind the extra weight because I am a fat, overfed American who can use the exercise (as can most of you!)
this isn't the Camping Enthusiasts forum, it is the Wilderness Survival Forum. If you only camp in perfect 2-season weather then you are in the wrong forum.
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